How long until DU is shut down?

[Coventina]

With this news about Jimmy Kimmel, I am asking seriously.

[NutmegYankee]

1. Probably a few months.

People need to wake the fuck up now or the next time they wake up they will be inside a gas chamber.

[Irish_Dem]

3. Half the American people like what Trump is doing.

They are fine with the other half going to the gas chambers.

[Trueblue1968]

24. Not half. There are more of US than there are of THEM

[Norbert]

49. At least now there is.

When Stephen Miller Goebbles thins the herd that will all change.

[Bettie]

61. I used to believe that

I wish I still did.

Seems like they are everywhere and they are becoming more awful by the day.

[orangecrush]

27. Not half

More like a quarter.

We outnumber them.

[calguy]

31. Outnumbering them means nothing

when they hold all the power.

[orangecrush]

32. What they hold

Is not real power.

When you see a few million in the street, you will see what real power is.

[calguy]

33. I'd like to think you right

[Coventina]

41. I've totally given up on that.

Millions should have been in the streets long ago.

[Wednesdays]

44. Millions HAVE been in the streets

[Coventina]

45. OK, if that's the millions you're counting on, it didn't do squat.

And I was one of them, btw.

And I plan to be one on Oct. 18 as well.

I have zero hope it will do anything, but I'm not going to go quietly into the gas chambers.

[Marthe48]

63. Hang in there, Coventina

By protesting, we are not part of the overthrow of our country. Little comfort, but I'll die proud that I didn't give up my principles.

If any of us really fear that DU is going to be killed off, maybe our administrators can rename it to something that disguises its intent, without drawing scrutiny from the rwnj.

If that isn't possible, start getting contact info with people you want to stay in touch with, in case the worst happens.

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[orangecrush]

50. That's what they're counting on

So not obey in advance.

Repeat.

[ananda]

35. I'd say more like a third...

but they have control of our entire power
structure... including nuclear weapons.

[TommyT139]

39. And guns.

[Irish_Dem]

48. The last poll I saw was 43% approval?

This is more than a third.

[Irish_Dem]

2. I was about to post the exact same question.

It is a serious question we must ask ourselves.

[marble falls]

4. Have you sent a message to ABC yet?

[Irish_Dem]

12. ABC could not care less about huffy emails from people with no money and no power.

[vapor2]

36. I disagree if enough people call or write

[TommyT139]

40. We don't have the power to approve their merger.

[Wiz Imp]

55. ABC is not trying to merge with anyone.

Nexstar only owns about 10% of ABC Affiliates

[TommyT139]

70. Nextstar is trying to merge with Tegna

So they're looking for approval from the regime.

Nexstar And Tegna Announce Merger Plan: What To Look For Next

https://www.forbes.com/sites/howardhomonoff/2025/08/20/nexstar-and-tegna-announce--merger-plan-what-to-look-for-next/

[Wiz Imp]

71. Did you miss the part where Nexstar only owns 10% of ABC stations?

This decision was made by ABC, not Nexstar. Nexstar needs ABC way more than ABC needs Nexstar. This decision had nothing to do with the Nexstar merger

[TommyT139]

72. Nope, but magats gonna magat.

Now back to our regularly-scheduled urgent matters.

[Wiz Imp]

73. there's no reason for ABC to give a damn about Nexstar's merger

And they don't. ABC DID NOT make this decision so Nexstar's mwmerger gets approved I'm sure they couldn't care less about that . ABC made this decision solely because someone in power there it decided it was easier than trying to fight Trump when he tries to pull the licenses of all ABC affiliates even though there is no chance of Trump ever succeeding at that.

[Irish_Dem]

47. The merger is all they care about.

Our opinion is meaningless right now.

[Wiz Imp]

57. ABC is not trying to merge with anyone

Nexstar only owns about 10% of ABC Affiliates. This is NOT about the Nexstar merger. Nexstar stations need ABC far more than ABC needs the Nexstar stations.

[Scrivener7]

51. But if enough cancel all their products, it is a message.

Primarily because it changes valuations and puts a wrench in their merger.

[Nittersing]

5. We need a backup meet up place... BlueSky? Mastodon?

Suggestions?

[Dave says]

38. Please not BlueSky !!

BS “suspended” me for “suspicious activity” months ago. They have not provided me with any more information than that.

I’ve sent a few emails asking what’s up but the couple of emails I received in response are boilerplate if not bot driven. I only posted there 2 times, although I lurked there for awhile (I lurked here at DU for a year after 9-11 before signing up).

I was using a Norton VPN when I got suspended and saw on Reddit that that sometimes causes problems (but not suspensions). I did have way more followed vs. followers, maybe that contributed? But that was because, when I signed up, I used several “starter packs” offered by those I recognized from other places (DU, Substack, etc.). But, due to a lack of forthrightness, and ghosting my inquiries, they have de facto banned me.

So don’t use BlueSky as the alternative (although, despite my problems with them, it is a good site).

[sir pball]

52. If you're seriously concerned, the fallback shouldn't be on the open web.

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If Miller does shut DU down (which I'm not existentially worried about, but also not entirely dismissing), he's also going to go after any other place we move to. Bsky, Discord, Mastodon, Reddit, Steam forums, anywhere that's publicly visible is going to be a target.

Might be a good time to look into Hyphanet FKA Freenet; it's probably the darkest darknet out there. It's an order of magnitude more difficult to use than the visible internet, but it's very difficult, if not impossible, to censor it.

[usonian]

65. Dang technology. People chage names of software just to confuse us.

It's Freenet.

[sir pball]

66. There's still a "Freenet" but it's now a different beast altogether

The successor to the original Freenet, by the same development team, had a codename but the head honcho decided to change it to "Freenet 2023" when they released it. It's a lot better in terms of the decentralization, but doesn't offer anonymity–which is, under the current regime, an essential part of any communications network.

Edited my original to make it clearer that it's the OG Freenet.

[usonian]

69. Thanks! It's so hard to keep up with everything.

Please post useful stuff in Activist Headquarters.

And links to it in GD for visibility.

A lot of users don't seem to see posts there and TWF.

[Cha]

6. Someone asked about this last night..

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220649329

[AZJonnie]

9. Yeah I'm going to research this a bit in the next couple days, see if i can be a facilitator of the means

Thanks for the shout-out

[Cha]

16. Mahalo for the Research...

And, of course!

[Ckeyes]

7. Maybe Soon?

Given any speech now that isn’t pro nazi is hate speech, I can easily see many forums shut down.

Carl

[Silent Type]

8. Don't think we are great risk, but not as confident as used to be. A contingency plan makes sense.

[surfered]

10. If Stephen Miller has his way, it will be "dismantled."

[dalton99a]

11. Dear Leader will seek to shut down all websites that treat him "unfairly"

[Grim Chieftain]

13. We need to have a plan of action regarding how to combat this

evisceration of our rights, and we need to have it now. Once it happens, it's too late.

[LonePirate]

14. I wouldn't be surprised if DU is gone by Thanksgiving. We're accelerating into a failed country with nothing to stop it.

[Blue Full Moon]

15. 75% are against

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220651543

[tinrobot]

17. DU needs to move it's servers overseas now.

[ultralite001]

18. Working w/ friendlies in Canada...

may be helpful...

Just a thot...

They're picking up some slack for govt services that are quietly being shut down in the US, for which I'm grateful...

[Woodycall]

19. I don't know but, I don't rule it out.

I think one day we are likely to click on it and we will simply get a "404 Error" that goes on forever. On the same subject, has anyone else noticed that The Smirking Chimp is "unavailable" much of the time?

[Tree Lady]

20. I have been thinking about this

The last few weeks as things have been escalating with almost no defense on our side.

They have fired most in government jobs that don't go along wth them, they have all 3 branches on their side and 6-3 of supremes. What do we have? As I see more and more actors move out of the country all I can think isn't that nice to have money to escape this.

And because CA has always been the state to hate gerrymandering it's going to be hard to get enough to vote for it. All my life I have believed it was wrong but if I lived in Cali I would vote for it, but I am involved politically. Saw last poll and only 48% would vote yes.

My husband keeps telling me to get off this site before they come after us. Are we all going to be on lists like Germany?

[YoshidaYui]

21. who controls and regulates the internet?

who ever that is could shut down DU ... BUT than i think DU would lawyer up and state it has the right to exist. I am not a lawyer... but that is the only person who seems to understand what's going on these days,..

[Wednesdays]

46. Not just who controls the Internet,

But ALSO whoever owns the server DU is on. If they decide to pull the plug, there's no legal remedy. Just like there's no legal remedy if a store or restaurant refuses you service, for any reason other than discrimination based on race, religion, etc.

[EnergizedLib]

22. I have pondered this sad reality

[Tribetime]

23. Never won't happen...I think he went wsy too far this time

The blowback will be huge.

[WiVoter]

25. We Go Underground, Really Underground

NOTHING via the internet. I wouldn't even begin to know how to make that happen or if it's possible.

[sir pball]

53. Hyphanet FKA Freenet would be my choice of bug-out plan.

It's an ultra-secure, ultra-anonymous, ultra-decentralized, ultra-dark network. Originally designed to share information under regimes of extreme censorship…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphanet

[dweller]

26. DU is on Facebook

Love it or hate it , it’s there


✌🏻

[kerry-is-my-prez]

28. As long as this site doesn't get too well-known, hopefully we're safe.

[TommyT139]

42. It's a choice, to let content show up on Google searches

Stopping that wouldn't cloak is from the three letter agencies, but it would lessen the appearance on the screens of trolls.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

29. Oh, for chrissakes.

Do you really think the people running DU will quietly go away? Really? You actually think that?

[usedtobedemgurl]

30. As I recall, I asked this in January of February.

I saw all the signs. Most folks, here, were non-plussed by the question. I believe they said how we have protections - the constitution and institutions. Here we are. I think the roller coaster of squashing dissent is at the top of the hill coming down quickly. I believe they will act quickly, as to shock the country and not give them time to fight back.

I believe DU is stationed out of Canada. Or, maybe that is their pay system? At any rate, if China can control their internet, I am positive the US can do the same. It really will be a case where Democrats are underground literally and figuratively.

I miss my country. Sad thing is they believe we are sad because they “won” and they own us. I am sad because we all lost and I love our country.

[Takket]

34. i don't know, but i am scared

i have been angry, outraged, saddened for others on a nearly daily basis.

i have a bluesky account. i don't use my real name, but i do have a picture of myself. i took that picture down today and went with something generic. i was afraid of someone using an image search to possibly find my true identity.

This Kimmel move in particular has me really scared. for my job, for my well being. Thought crimes have come to america, and the government is using the full force of its power to ruin people. my wife is disabled. if i lose my job, it would be a financial disaster.

I no longer feel completely safe expressing myself. At least on DU my username can't be tracked to me, so i at least feel SORT of safe posting here?. But i have to temper my feelings with the thought of "what if some MAGAt doesn't like what i say, and reports my words to the government, who in turn threaten my employer with sanctions if they don't fire me?"

I certainly wouldn't express my opinions in person to anyone, or attach them to my real name or picture anymore.

[Seeking Serenity]

37. Hey, look. Kiwi Farms is still on the clear net. If it can stay up, DU is a shoo-in.

No worries, folks.

[TommyT139]

43. Where do you think half the young trumpers got their start?

KF was hating trans people long before it was a moneymaker for red staters.

[no_hypocrisy]

54. At least Earl G. would shut down DU before

surrendering our identities.

[berksdem]

56. I am not being hyperbolic here

but I fully expect this type of scenario. I think we are past the point of democracy and it is only downhill from here. There is no way they will not try to stay in power long after the Dotard is 6 ft under. Most Americans are oblivious and only care if it impacts them directly. Americans are asleep behind the wheel.

[Patton French]

58. DU won't be shut down unless it shuts itself down.

DU is not controlled by Nexstar or Sinclair or any other corporate interest. At least not that I'm aware of.

[Nittersing]

60. How far are we from threatening family members?

[Patton French]

64. I don't know what you mean.

[usonian]

59. I kindly ask the admins

1. Let us know the IP address for the day that DNS (the site name) is blocked.

2. Get and support a tor/onion address.

3. Store user data on a removable medium. How often is it actually used?

4. Warrant canary.

[WestMichRad]

62. I prefer not to think much about what might comes next.

Seems to get worse every day. Just when I think the bar can’t get any lower, they burrow deeper into the shit.

[GreenWave]

67. Oh ye of little faith...

[hamsterjill]

68. Valid concern.

More importantly, does everyone have a plan in place to stay in contact with family, etc. should communication go down completely?

Our family has a centralized location that everyone knows to head towards as soon as possible should anything like that happen. We made the plan with the understanding that nothing is perfect, but we didn't want everyone heading in ten different directions. We have also included several friends who are "family", too. Every person has been instructed to bring with them what they can as far as survival items. The issue of course would be everyone safely getting to that location, but it was the best we could come up with.

It makes me sick to even think we have to have that in place, but at this stage of the game, everyone should have a plan.

[Johnny2X2X]

74. DU will be taken down

Reminder that on election day in 2016, DU was taken off line by hackers. That's the minimum of what will happen.

If it is allowed to exist, user names will be linked to real names so an AI can be tasked with targeting posters here for retribution.