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senseandsensibility

(24,262 posts)
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:44 PM Sep 2025

Headline CNN: Source: ABC Wants Kimmel Back, But He Has To Lower the Temperature

I don't know. Sounds like censorship to me. I have been hearing hints all day that ABC is thinking of making this a temporary "pause" on the show, but this is the first I heard that there will be conditions.

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Headline CNN: Source: ABC Wants Kimmel Back, But He Has To Lower the Temperature (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 2025 OP
Promise to Traildogbob Sep 2025 #1
In other words, "Don't piss off Dear Leader." sakabatou Sep 2025 #2
"Walk this Way" or think and say what I like, or else. Deuxcents Sep 2025 #5
We could "lower the temperature" by immediately putting Trump into cryostasis Jack Valentino Sep 2025 #44
The first amendment doesn't have an asterisk. Initech Sep 2025 #55
Let him out of his contract, Disney. roamer65 Sep 2025 #3
Not HBO Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #9
Oh fawk, how many gawd damn networks do they all fawking need?? a kennedy Sep 2025 #18
ALL of them, there can be no recognizable media outlet for public dissent 0rganism Sep 2025 #41
God, I hope that doesn't happen...my daughter works for them. nt Trueblue Texan Sep 2025 #33
As a kid, I lived in a country where everyone had to "lower the temperature" every day AloeVera Sep 2025 #4
his show likely emolys dozens of people. except for them he could switch to a podcast/blogcast.... nt msongs Sep 2025 #6
he should lower the temperature... to blast furnace lapfog_1 Sep 2025 #7
Eisner hasn't been head of Disney for nearly 30 years Fiendish Thingy Sep 2025 #10
Nearly 20 years. He stepped down on September 30th, 2005. Celerity Sep 2025 #64
Jimmy: Tell ABC to stuff it. Chipper Chat Sep 2025 #8
Sue the F*ck out of them! nt Trueblue Texan Sep 2025 #34
THIS. MOTHERFUCKING THIS. johnnyfins Sep 2025 #37
I like Guillermo. debm55 Sep 2025 #56
I thought the comments that canned him were pretty low temp. spanone Sep 2025 #11
Who determines the temperature?? Passages Sep 2025 #12
I wouldn't do it. Baitball Blogger Sep 2025 #13
The "temperature" of that series... Mike Nelson Sep 2025 #14
I kacekwl Sep 2025 #15
"Lower the Temperature" translation: B.See Sep 2025 #16
Damn right it's censorship. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Sep 2025 #17
Personally, I think Kimmel's political monologues GarColga Sep 2025 #19
Who? senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #20
We need an "Unrec" button on DU. skypilot Sep 2025 #43
Aren't they dead? littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #50
ABC and FCC: Freedom of Speech for TeeVee Talk Show Hosts MrWowWow Sep 2025 #21
Well, before him, you never knew where other Tonight Show hosts leaned politically Polybius Sep 2025 #22
yeah that was fine IN THE PAST Skittles Sep 2025 #24
Well, I think it's fine now too Polybius Sep 2025 #51
you don't seem to get it Skittles Sep 2025 #58
I get it Polybius Sep 2025 #61
sure Skittles Sep 2025 #62
What have you got against a difference of opinion? Polybius Sep 2025 #65
LOL Skittles Sep 2025 #66
That has nothing to do with what we were discussing Polybius Sep 2025 #68
Same here SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2025 #29
ABC needs to go fuck itself. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #23
damn straight Skittles Sep 2025 #25
Maybe we hear more about that tonight from JS 0rganism Sep 2025 #45
Letterman used to keep his CBS studio as low as 55 degrees fahrenheit. tinrobot Sep 2025 #26
I wrote a funny column in my old flyfishing club's newsletter that got one or two pissed off. usonian Sep 2025 #27
I watched that video on YouTube iemanja Sep 2025 #28
As I said in my OP this was a chyron on CNN senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #35
The video has that same title iemanja Sep 2025 #36
I believe they are saying that they (CNN) have a source senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #38
Did you actually see them reporting on this? iemanja Sep 2025 #39
I have to admit that I was distracted senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #40
The "Whiny Ass Snowflake" feelings were hurt. Emile Sep 2025 #30
Kimmel should tell ABC to take a flying f___ BootinUp Sep 2025 #31
Fuck ABC! Fuck Disney! Boycott both! OrlandoDem2 Sep 2025 #32
Kimmel on ice... Hugin Sep 2025 #42
Fuck. That. Noise. Reader Rabbit Sep 2025 #46
This will never happen Diraven Sep 2025 #47
Turn down the temp until the merger mzmolly Sep 2025 #48
He could agree... littlemissmartypants Sep 2025 #49
Fuck them. Klarkashton Sep 2025 #52
condoms Tetrachloride Sep 2025 #53
It's legal if a private company censors an employee. Kablooie Sep 2025 #54
And it's legal if the public rejects that company. Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #63
ABC realized that they forgot who they serve. Advertisers and audience, not politicians. ... marble falls Sep 2025 #57
CNN has run the same chyron today and I heard refetences senseandsensibility Sep 2025 #67
Sure, ABC could have just Trump pre-approve Kimmel's jokes. Jim__ Sep 2025 #59
They are not doing that well to begin with. Blue Full Moon Sep 2025 #60

Jack Valentino

(4,437 posts)
44. We could "lower the temperature" by immediately putting Trump into cryostasis
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:25 PM
Sep 2025

"AI Overview
Human Cryostasis - The Cryonics Institute
Cryostasis refers to the preservation of an organism in a state of suspended animation by maintaining it at extremely low, sub-zero temperatures to prevent biological processes, with the hope that future medical advancements will allow for its revival and recovery from a condition that would otherwise be fatal. This is achieved through a process of cryopreservation and is a concept often seen in science fiction. "

In this case, ignore everything after "prevent biological processes"....



roamer65

(37,818 posts)
3. Let him out of his contract, Disney.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:49 PM
Sep 2025

There are other networks who will pick him up uncensored.

HBO, TBS, etc, etc.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,153 posts)
9. Not HBO
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:03 PM
Sep 2025

Larry Ellison, whose son just bought CBS/Paramount, wants to buy the company that owns HBO.

0rganism

(25,478 posts)
41. ALL of them, there can be no recognizable media outlet for public dissent
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:13 PM
Sep 2025

I'm guessing you know this already and your question was mostly rhetorical, but I felt it deserved a response.

And fwiw, I agree with the sentiment







If/when society rebuilds, our descendants will have to figure out how to prevent this kind of grotesque consolidation from ever happening again. I wish them the best of luck.

AloeVera

(4,011 posts)
4. As a kid, I lived in a country where everyone had to "lower the temperature" every day
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:50 PM
Sep 2025

That country was behind the Iron Curtain.

msongs

(73,098 posts)
6. his show likely emolys dozens of people. except for them he could switch to a podcast/blogcast.... nt
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:51 PM
Sep 2025

lapfog_1

(31,700 posts)
7. he should lower the temperature... to blast furnace
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:55 PM
Sep 2025

and roast Disney corp., Eisner, the fascist FCC chair, ABC ( for being cowards ) and the owners of Sinclair, etc.

in addition to Trump and the mis-administration usual suspects.

Spread the satire. Make it relentless.

Mike Nelson

(10,927 posts)
14. The "temperature" of that series...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:14 PM
Sep 2025

... of jokes was already low. The "GUTFIELD!" show on FOX has a million times higher temperature, if they are looking for fever-pitched political nasty comedy.

B.See

(7,860 posts)
16. "Lower the Temperature" translation:
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:18 PM
Sep 2025

"We know we fk'd up by cancelling you. Disney knows. CARR knows he fk'd up too. And so does Trump.

So to get a lid on this before it blows WIDE OPEN, we want to bring you back, if you only let us save a little FACE by your promising to kowtow to Trump like WE do.

GarColga

(175 posts)
19. Personally, I think Kimmel's political monologues
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:22 PM
Sep 2025

are a bit on the boring side and I wouldn't miss them. Bring back Cousin Sal and Aunt Chippy!

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
21. ABC and FCC: Freedom of Speech for TeeVee Talk Show Hosts
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 07:36 PM
Sep 2025

Talk show hosts on ABC are bound by:

FCC Rules:
* No obscenity ever
* Limits on indecency/profanity (6 a.m.–10 p.m.)
* Equal-time obligations for political candidates
* Sponsorship disclosure.

ABC Rules:
* ABC sets editorial, accuracy, and conduct standards
* Contracts often include “morals clauses.”

Law: They can’t defame people; the First Amendment stops government censorship, not ABC from enforcing rules.

For broadcast talk shows on ABC (or any U.S. broadcaster), the controlling federal law is the Communications Act of 1934, as amended by the Telecommunications Act of 1996. That law authorizes the FCC to regulate broadcast content.

Key statutory points:

47 U.S.C. § 326: Forbids the FCC from censoring broadcasters, but allows regulation of obscene, indecent, and profane content.

18 U.S.C. § 1464: Makes it unlawful to utter any obscene, indecent, or profane language by means of radio communication (applies to TV too).

47 U.S.C. § 315 (Equal Time Rule): Requires broadcasters who give airtime to one legally qualified political candidate to afford equal opportunities to others.

47 U.S.C. §§ 317, 508: Require disclosure of sponsorships and prohibit payola/plugola.


Everything else (like editorial balance or “fairness”) is governed by network policy, not federal statute, since the Fairness Doctrine was repealed in 1987.

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
22. Well, before him, you never knew where other Tonight Show hosts leaned politically
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:01 PM
Sep 2025

Johnny Carson, Jay Leno, and Conan O'Brien had you guessing if they were Democrats (Leno and O'Brien are, Carson was) or Republicans. Another talk show host that had you guessing was David Letterman. I prefer it that way. Johnny Carson said it best, he never did serious controversy dialog or jokes.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1715016625719237

Skittles

(169,763 posts)
24. yeah that was fine IN THE PAST
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:31 PM
Sep 2025

nowadays, when the press and politicians are completely FAILING us, these guys are needed MORE THAN EVER

and FUCK fascist FB, FUCK THEM

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
51. Well, I think it's fine now too
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:39 PM
Sep 2025

I don't want my talk show hosts to be openly liberal or conservative. From a business standpoint, it makes more sense as well, since you want both sides to watch.

Skittles

(169,763 posts)
58. you don't seem to get it
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:22 PM
Sep 2025

it's not LIBERAL vs CONSERVATIVE

it is DEMOCRACY vs FASCISM

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
61. I get it
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 04:06 AM
Sep 2025

I want my talk show hosts to be apolitical in affiliation. He was also like this over 10 years ago, before MAGA.

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
65. What have you got against a difference of opinion?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 2025

Last edited Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Not everyone has to see things the same way as you do. Your reply was snark and wasn't very tolerant.

Skittles

(169,763 posts)
66. LOL
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:01 PM
Sep 2025

it's DEMOCRACY VS FASCSIM

that's not a DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, THAT IS FACT

DONE HERE

Polybius

(21,538 posts)
68. That has nothing to do with what we were discussing
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:38 PM
Sep 2025

I prefer my talk show hosts to be like Conan, Leno, Letterman, and Carson. You prefer them to be like Kimmel and Colbert, and that's fine. I don't care that we disagree, but you have no tolerance for this difference of opinion for some reason. That's ok, have a good day.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,710 posts)
29. Same here
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:47 PM
Sep 2025

With the occasional exception of Jimmy Fallon, I haven't watched any of the late night shows in years because I just don't find them entertaining.

tinrobot

(11,963 posts)
26. Letterman used to keep his CBS studio as low as 55 degrees fahrenheit.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:40 PM
Sep 2025

Would something like that count as "lowering the temperature?"

usonian

(23,676 posts)
27. I wrote a funny column in my old flyfishing club's newsletter that got one or two pissed off.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:42 PM
Sep 2025

I found a short pier and asked them to take a long walk.

P.S. That pier was about a mile away.

senseandsensibility

(24,262 posts)
35. As I said in my OP this was a chyron on CNN
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:56 PM
Sep 2025

I am reporting what they aired. They said they had a source. Make of it what you will.

senseandsensibility

(24,262 posts)
38. I believe they are saying that they (CNN) have a source
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:01 PM
Sep 2025

that is telling them off the record that this is going on. This source is only telling CNN. Other outlets don't have that source. Again, it may or may not be accurate.

senseandsensibility

(24,262 posts)
40. I have to admit that I was distracted
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:05 PM
Sep 2025

and I know they were covering this topic extensively. I did take care to copy the chyron exactly though.

Diraven

(1,839 posts)
47. This will never happen
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:29 PM
Sep 2025

Some billionaire shareholders could lose a few bucks if they have to actually defy Trump. Can't have that.

Kablooie

(19,053 posts)
54. It's legal if a private company censors an employee.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 09:40 PM
Sep 2025

That’s how Trump gets away with it. Ostensibly the company made the decision not the government.
We will be seeing a lot more like this. Trump will make hints and companies cave. I don’t know how you get around this.

marble falls

(71,168 posts)
57. ABC realized that they forgot who they serve. Advertisers and audience, not politicians. ...
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:00 PM
Sep 2025

... of course on second thought they want Jimmie back, I think Jimmie's playing the stronger hand right now.

senseandsensibility

(24,262 posts)
67. CNN has run the same chyron today and I heard refetences
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 02:05 PM
Sep 2025

to wanting Kimmel back on MSNBC this morning too. Sam Stein said he's hearing that ABC wants Kimmel back, but Alex Witt just cut him off and didn't ask for details.

Blue Full Moon

(3,197 posts)
60. They are not doing that well to begin with.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 11:25 PM
Sep 2025

Jimmy Kimmel and his crew by the time they are through suing will end up owing it.

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