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babylonsister

(172,578 posts)
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:33 AM Sep 2025

Oklahoma schools bring in teachers from Mexico to address educator shortages

Really? Lock 'em up unless they're useful? Make this make sense.

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2025/09/17/oklahoma-teacher-shortage

Oklahoma schools bring in teachers from Mexico to address educator shortages
06:30
September 17, 2025


At the start of this school year, Oklahoma schools had 1,000 unfilled teacher positions. To fill the gap, one school district started hiring teachers from Mexico. Santa Fe South Schools in Oklahoma City recently brought in three teachers from Mexico as part of a pilot program coordinated by an education non-profit called Fuel OKC.
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Oklahoma schools bring in teachers from Mexico to address educator shortages (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 2025 OP
Are they certified? no_hypocrisy Sep 2025 #1
And do they have to take Oklahoma's "dedication to the dear leader" test, like they were Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #2
Yeah, and are they packing Bibles? BoRaGard Sep 2025 #6
Trump Bibles of course. Norrrm Sep 2025 #51
Oklahoma has many workarounds for teacher certification. Heidi Sep 2025 #10
In 2006 SF south HS in OKC was 73% 'hispanic', in 2005 it was 64%, in 2025? ClaudetteCC Sep 2025 #14
Did they have to sign a fealty pledge to King Trump? Diamond_Dog Sep 2025 #3
The Great Replacement Theory - republicon style BoRaGard Sep 2025 #4
How long till those teachers get rounded up by ICE? tanyev Sep 2025 #5
This whole thing is a face palm. They treat their teachers like shit. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #21
Exactly! peggysue2 Sep 2025 #30
About the second school is out next May Bengus81 Sep 2025 #39
Good question ck4829 Sep 2025 #50
And Mexico will pay their salaries, right? sop Sep 2025 #7
Prolly will need to build a wall to keep them in Seinan Sensei Sep 2025 #23
Will the Mexican teachers, gab13by13 Sep 2025 #8
Who is paying their salaries? Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #9
Not Certified. Public school teachers in Mexico end their secondary ed at 10th grade and go to college. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #24
Sounds to me like they are non-union scabs, gab13by13 Sep 2025 #11
Probably don't have unions. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #26
Okie-homa Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #47
But they skirt the state's minimum salaries. So in some respect they're like scabs. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #48
Kick dalton99a Sep 2025 #12
Unintended Consequences Piasladic Sep 2025 #13
As was pointed out above, the district is overwhelmingly Hispanic. nt Wednesdays Sep 2025 #43
Follow the money lonely bird Sep 2025 #15
They have been bringing in teachers from the Philippines for years JT45242 Sep 2025 #16
Decades ago, they tried to bring nurses in from the Philippines as cheap labor travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #19
They still do. Although the bases aren't there, there is an "American school" over there. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #27
I remember when Dean Martin played an American Indian in movies. Are they really from Mexico? twodogsbarking Sep 2025 #17
Seriously? travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #18
So I guess they all have the proper visas and green cards allowing them to work in the United States. Ray Bruns Sep 2025 #20
But the loon state Education Superintendent implemented an idiotic policy to keep some teachers out BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #22
The teachers from Mexico won't require certification. They will be issued "emergency certificates" LeftInTX Sep 2025 #32
Oh I know BumRushDaShow Sep 2025 #40
Anterior motive. Are they being bought in Norbert Sep 2025 #25
That 1000 teacher shortage is result of bad policy and low pay. tinrobot Sep 2025 #28
Someone from Mexico who is willing for work for lower pay. LeftInTX Sep 2025 #34
You get what you pay for tinrobot Sep 2025 #37
Right! OK is driving their college-educated citizens out of the state! 70sEraVet Sep 2025 #38
Well, isn't that special? You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried. Vinca Sep 2025 #29
Just like Abbot's Texas DMV was requesting Mexican Truck drivers after reopening and granting them visas ChicagoTeamster Sep 2025 #31
Surreal. Must be because they will agree to teach the Bible, and shun mention of LBTQ+ topics. Martin68 Sep 2025 #33
Yep...or be deported by sundown Bengus81 Sep 2025 #42
The irony is delicious. Ping Tung Sep 2025 #35
My friend's Chinese lesbian daughter was Teacher of the Year in OK City but left. OMGWTF Sep 2025 #36
Gee I wonder what happened to the teachers kkmarie Sep 2025 #41
Feel sorry for those with school age kids that are locked into staying in that State Bengus81 Sep 2025 #44
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Sep 2025 #45
I am surprised that they didn't go to the Philippines dsc Sep 2025 #46
Kick ck4829 Sep 2025 #49

no_hypocrisy

(54,290 posts)
1. Are they certified?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:34 AM
Sep 2025

Do they understand the American public school system?

Will they be fired for speaking Spanish during school hours?

Scrivener7

(58,344 posts)
2. And do they have to take Oklahoma's "dedication to the dear leader" test, like they were
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:40 AM
Sep 2025

going to make teachers from blue states do? I guess they don't have to worry about those hordes of blue state teachers coming to corrupt their children that they were expecting.

I literally laughed out loud at this. It's hilarious.

ClaudetteCC

(141 posts)
14. In 2006 SF south HS in OKC was 73% 'hispanic', in 2005 it was 64%, in 2025?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:24 AM
Sep 2025

This is the HS but presumably the local middle and elementary schools are similar.

It might be that spanish language skills in teachers were what led them to recruit from Mexico.

https://www.city-data.com/school/santa-fe-south-hs-ok.html

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
4. The Great Replacement Theory - republicon style
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:41 AM
Sep 2025

It's so slick when you have a golf cheat and pedo bestie as your leader,

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
21. This whole thing is a face palm. They treat their teachers like shit.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:37 AM
Sep 2025

Then, they get a teacher shortage.

Then, they bring in teachers from Mexico, who ARE NOT certified. (Teachers in Mexico have a totally different education tract than the US. My daughter's ex-bf mother was certified teacher in Mexico. She could only work as a teacher's aide here) In Mexico, their secondary education ends at grade 10 and then she went to college. So, it was mismatched and not worth the effort to become certified here.

Of course, they will pay them less than American teachers

There may even be language/accent issues between the students and teachers. Parents may not like it either. But i guess it depends on the district.


Then, ICE may show up.

peggysue2

(12,388 posts)
30. Exactly!
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:55 AM
Sep 2025

The Trump regime is deporting Mexicans left and right and now Oklahoma of all places brings in Mexican teachers to fill a teacher vacuum?

Makes no sense.

I'm honestly surprised any Mexican citizen would be willing to come here after all the bigotry and abuse.


Jilly_in_VA

(13,812 posts)
9. Who is paying their salaries?
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:57 AM
Sep 2025

Are they CERTIFIED?
Do they speak good, unaccented ENGLISH?
Who is paying their salaries?
And most importantly,
ARE THEY LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ICE COMES CALLING?

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
24. Not Certified. Public school teachers in Mexico end their secondary ed at 10th grade and go to college.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:45 AM
Sep 2025

It's hard to get a US certificate if you haven't completed HS. They would need to get a GED, then go back to college and take classes. Would not be worth it.

They will get something called an "emergency certificate". My husband had one for awhile.

Accents could be an issue. They would be bilingual. How will parents react? However. It depends on the community (Indian Reservations would probably be more accepting than some redneck white area)

They will pay them less than US teachers. That's they whole thing.

I'm pretty sure they will get work visas.

ICE is unpredictable.

gab13by13

(31,239 posts)
11. Sounds to me like they are non-union scabs,
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:18 AM
Sep 2025

but maybe teachers in Oklahoma don't belong to unions?

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
26. Probably don't have unions.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:50 AM
Sep 2025

Texas has mandated salaries, but no unions.

However, uncertified or "emergency certificates" will earn less than certified teacher.

They would be issued emergency certificate.

Basically, the are like union scabs because the state can pay them less than certified teachers.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,812 posts)
47. Okie-homa
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:53 PM
Sep 2025

is a "right to slave" state, therefore no union. Therefore they cannot be scabs.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
48. But they skirt the state's minimum salaries. So in some respect they're like scabs.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 07:57 PM
Sep 2025

They hurt legitimate teachers. Obviously teacher strikes are illegal in OK. They do have "unions" which act as lobbyists to assure minimum salaries and benefits. "Emergency certificates" will work for less pay and certified teachers will sit without jobs.

Piasladic

(1,171 posts)
13. Unintended Consequences
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 08:33 AM
Sep 2025

What is going to happen when those kids start loving and respecting their Mexican teachers? Maybe they’ll develop some empathy their parents lack…

lonely bird

(2,776 posts)
15. Follow the money
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:26 AM
Sep 2025

Some of the funding comes from the Walton Family Foundation which isn’t arbitrarily left or right.

Still, following the money is critical. Also, seeing if the teachers from outside the U.S. are subject to the idiocy of the whackjob who is president of the state board.

JT45242

(3,832 posts)
16. They have been bringing in teachers from the Philippines for years
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:28 AM
Sep 2025

I have delivered Professional Development classes in Oklahoma several times over the last few years. I've found many districts that use teachers from the Philippines to fill shortages.

But as a twenty years teacher. Why would anyone go to Oklahoma to teach unless they were desperate.
Underfunded.
Underpaid.
Fascists running the government.

Would putting up Isaiah 10:1-2 fulfill the law or get you fired. "Woe to those who make unjust laws, th those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."

The hypocrisy of red states as always, repulses me.

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)
19. Decades ago, they tried to bring nurses in from the Philippines as cheap labor
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:34 AM
Sep 2025

to replace US RNs.

Philippine nurses were trained at US bases and they knew very well the value of a dollar so their little scheme did not work.

We got a lot of tremendous nurses and they did not bring our wages down.

Ray Bruns

(5,984 posts)
20. So I guess they all have the proper visas and green cards allowing them to work in the United States.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:37 AM
Sep 2025

Maybe someone should call ICE to check on that.

LeftInTX

(34,015 posts)
32. The teachers from Mexico won't require certification. They will be issued "emergency certificates"
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:57 AM
Sep 2025

Academically, the certification process in Mexico doesn't line up with US certification.

So, they would come in as uncertified teachers and be issued "emergency certifications", which are used in shortages.

They are paid less than certified teachers.

BumRushDaShow

(165,791 posts)
40. Oh I know
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:18 AM
Sep 2025

The ad hoc "policies" that they put in place to "own the libs" is the type of red meat crap that they feed to their base while doing something that is the opposite - "behind the scenes".

Norbert

(7,567 posts)
25. Anterior motive. Are they being bought in
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:46 AM
Sep 2025

So that they can ultimately pay Herr Steven Goebbel's detain/deportation numbers?

tinrobot

(11,952 posts)
28. That 1000 teacher shortage is result of bad policy and low pay.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:53 AM
Sep 2025

Who in the world would want to be a low-paid teacher who has to avoid "woke" words such as slavery or evolution in the classroom?

Pay teachers more and stop micro-managing what they teach.

tinrobot

(11,952 posts)
37. You get what you pay for
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:11 AM
Sep 2025

Oklahoma doesn't want great teachers. Their students ask uncomfortable questions.

ChicagoTeamster

(442 posts)
31. Just like Abbot's Texas DMV was requesting Mexican Truck drivers after reopening and granting them visas
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:55 AM
Sep 2025

That's how all the agricultural, construction, and meat processing workers came here. There was a shortage and now there is one again

Martin68

(27,064 posts)
33. Surreal. Must be because they will agree to teach the Bible, and shun mention of LBTQ+ topics.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 09:57 AM
Sep 2025

OMGWTF

(5,013 posts)
36. My friend's Chinese lesbian daughter was Teacher of the Year in OK City but left.
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:07 AM
Sep 2025

She ended up getting married, moving to Canada and has never looked back.

kkmarie

(337 posts)
41. Gee I wonder what happened to the teachers
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:28 AM
Sep 2025
Walters Touts Alternative to Woke Teachers' Unions

Monday, March 10, 2025
Teacher Freedom Alliance provides a necessary free market solution

OKLAHOMA CITY, OK – Today, Superintendent Ryan Walters announced intent to lead the charge to offer a private industry solution to the far left-leaning Teachers' Unions that have infected our public education system for decades.

Bengus81

(9,826 posts)
44. Feel sorry for those with school age kids that are locked into staying in that State
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 10:31 AM
Sep 2025

This is what happens when the ultra nut job religious kooks take over.

dsc

(53,321 posts)
46. I am surprised that they didn't go to the Philippines
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:32 AM
Sep 2025

my district has several teachers from there. My school has 2 in our math department (out of 7), 3 in our science department (out of 5), 1 in our English department (out of 6). The Philippines is an English speaking country so these teachers are clear English speakers. But the education systems are rather different so there is a learning curve for them.

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