Turning Point USA Calls Kirk's Assassination A Miracle

[gab13by13]

I saw the article on my home page so I clicked on it. Yes, they say, there was no exit wound through Charlie's neck which "would have killed people behind him." The 30.06 bullet which kills moose and elk couldn't penetrate Kirk's neck because his bone density is tougher than a moose's I guess. The bullet was retrieved under the skin says the coroner.

That's a miracle they claim and then the article goes on to make the claim that Kirk protected people even in his death and died with a smile on his face knowing he was going to heaven.

I am certainly not an expert on bone density so the claim that Kirk's bone density was such that it stopped a 30.06 bullet leads me to say, OK.

Jeffrey Epsten must have had weak bone density seeing as 3 bones in his neck were crushed from his strangulation, strike what I just posted, I mean crushed from his hanging.

[dalton99a]

1. The next Nazi pope will declare him a saint

The dead troll's widow will make a mint selling relics

[Walleye]

8. I expect Trump to lean on Pope Leo, To make Charlie a saint, after all the pope is from Chicago and Trump hates Chicago

[Coldwater]

2. So, no magic bullet theory

A miracle bullet, oh great

[Lovie777]

18. Ok, I read something like that but did not read all of it..................

in disbelief.................

RWers keep changing the narrative I guess to satisfied their insane imaginations.

[maxrandb]

3. Somebody better post a watch over his grave

At least for 72 hours, or so

[gab13by13]

5. Now I'm going to hell

because I laughed out loud at that.

[Emile]

49. LOL 😆

[odins folly]

4. I'm sorry, but I saw video from multiple angles

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And I’m no medical doctor or an expert on how gushing blood moves through unperforated skin, but I call bullshit…

[doc03]

24. "angels" is that a typo?

[odins folly]

44. Yup, man speller

As my wife loves to point out….

[taxi]

6. Would this be a Burden of Proof logical fallacy?

How far into never-never land does someone have to go to believe his neck stopped a bullet and saved the lives of how many behind him?

This fallacy originates from the Latin phrase "onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat". The burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, not on the person who denies (or questions) the claim. The fallacy of the Burden of Proof occurs when someone who is making a claim, puts the burden of proof on another party to disprove what they are claiming.

https://www.logicalfallacies.org/burden-of-proof.html

[Walleye]

10. So as I thought, "prove me wrong" is bullshit. Charlie just wanted to start arguments

Verbal arguments where he could shout somebody down and talk over them. He didn’t really want any physical violence, but that’s what he got. today’s “Christian soldiers” are podcast freaks. They know they are safe from this particular fascist government

[gab13by13]

7. Hey folks,

The priest at my church yesterday, practically gave a eulogy to Kirk for his sermon. He claimed that Kirk brought more young people to God in his 31 years than he could ever hope to do. Not shitting you, I have a Magat priest.

[Walleye]

11. I'm sorry, but if God needs the likes of Charlie Kirk to bring people to him, I don't want anything to do with it

Why does God always attract all these horrible people. I think they just wanna make money.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. Power, control, and money. . . . nt

[Walleye]

16. Now. We are discovering how many people believe that that is religion

[Lonestarblue]

21. Matthew 7:15: "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

Kirk claimed to be a Christian, but he preached hate. It’s easy for the MAGA cult to claim Christianity, but their words and actions say otherwise.

[Ferrets are Cool]

22. That is the moment I would have walked out.

[markodochartaigh]

31. I saw that post on Instagram.

More than one page. It seemed to me that they were trying to make a case that saving bystanders was his first miracle on the way to sainthood.
I bet Cardinal Dolan would put him up for sainthood.

[sop]

35. Technically, Kirk needs two miracles for sainthood.

[markodochartaigh]

40. Well, he wasn't even Catholic.

But martyrs only require one miracle, and it looks like some US Catholic clergy would be willing to overlook that he wasn't Catholic.

[Katinfl]

32. That's too bad.

And you sat there and listened to it? One thing that really, really gets to me is the mention of anything political in church. I am lucky that I have only had that experience 1 or 2 times because I keep church and politics separate. I don’t want to hear about politics from the pulpit and I don’t want to hear about church from the politicians.

[Conjuay]

33. Wish I was there so I could get up and walk out.

I experienced something similar years back. I was invited to a service by a student of mine.
The pastor went into a rant of how we should've nuked North Korea when we had the chance, blah, blah, blah.

Promoting genocide from the pulpit-another true Kkkristian.

[Coldwater]

9. The most likely scenario

The bullet ricocheted off the steel/titanium vest that Charlie was wearing, which slowed down the bullet, and went into his neck.

[Walleye]

12. It did look like there was a thud to his chest before the neck wound

[gab13by13]

13. That sounds believable

but the article said it was because of Kirk's bone density, according to the coroner.

[Coldwater]

20. The coroner

The coroner didn't lie he just omitted some details,

Besides the shooter wasn't trying for a headshot he was aiming for the chest or center mass which any expert will tell you it's better than a headshot

[Bernardo de La Paz]

17. I'm sure there was no vest, none visible. No ricochet, just turbulence.

I purposely avoided looking at violence I don't need to see, but I read analysis in various places.

No vest (I've seen pre-shot still photo). His shirt rose up in the turbulence of the air as a supersonic bullet passed nearby.

[taxi]

19. A more likely scenario, yes.

Reading up on hunting forums reveals that a 30.06 is effective for large game at ranges at least twice as far as from where CK was shot from. Some say that a 30.06 is overkill for a 200 yard shot.
eta: a more likely scenario if he was wearing some type of armor

[sop]

45. I have a really hard time believing a 30.06 round would not leave an exit wound if Kirk was struck directly in the neck.

(I won't post them, but if anyone wants to see how far a typical 30.06 would penetrate ballistic gellatin, youtube is full of such slow motion videos.)

[taxi]

46. Yes, I agree.

It was a matter of very carefully choosing my words. It is very hard to believe, nearly but not quite an impossibility.

[travelingthrulife]

14. So the shooter is Jesus?

These people are pathetic.

[doc03]

23. I could believe the bone density of Trump's head, Kirk's neck bullshit.

[eShirl]

25. These people are nuts.

Just batshit.

[Srkdqltr]

27. A lot of people are nuts lately. Very sad. Its the internet, back when we did not hear all the comments. Now we hear

Everything.

[Irish_Dem]

26. Next story line will be Kirk was nailed to a cross.

And rose from the dead on the third day.

[markodochartaigh]

28. That miracle is still secondary to the miracle of

Trump's brain density being so high that the bullet could only nick his ear.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

29. Bullets do weird stuff sometimes

Seen it plenty in Iraq. But, a 30.06 to the neck should have absolutely gone straight through. There isnt enough mass in the neck to stop a bullet of that size. The deflection of body armor doesnt really work either. If he wore a low profile Kevlar vest, the bullet wouldn't have beem deflected, it would have zipped right through the Kevlar as Kevlar isnt rated for that caliber. He would have needed to have been wearing plates and it did not look like he was wearing a plate carrier under his tshirt.

So miracle..eh no. Just pure luck that the bullet did something weird. Or maybe it impacted on the tent pole and lost enough energy that way.

[Lovie777]

30. Ten Commandments...................

1. Thou shalt have no other Gods before me.

Actually the RWers have consistently broken all 10 of them.

[mwmisses4289]

34. So the pretzel gymnastics is in full swing, I see.

Just like the rwnj who was being interviewed by the BBC yesterday, trying to claim the shooter was a radical lefty something something something. The BBC reporter was pushing back, though.

[edbermac]

36. Charlie just became the new John Birch

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society

[intheflow]

37. There was no one behind him so a bullet leaving his body wouldn't have hurt anyone else.

And I watched the gruesome video. I wouldn't say he died with a smile on his face, more like a look of surprise.

[Clouds Passing]

38. That guy ain't making it to heaven. And he never will be a Saint.

[Emile]

39. I heard the bullet ricochet off his bullet proof vest.

[odins folly]

48. He was wearing a t-shirt

There was no vest or anything else under it

[mr715]

41. If they expect a beatification from Pope Leo,

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Ping Tung]

42. Famous preacher Lem "Turtlebutt" Brush affirmed the miracle when he spoke to "God through his toaster.

[Rob H.]

43. "...died with a smile on his face..."

I watched the video, which I would definitely not recommend, and that's bullshit.

[Iris]

47. I hope they flame out in some spectacular way

Or even some bland way.