Photo that shows the gunman's truck crashed into the Mormon church in Michigan. (Twitter)

[Crunchy Frog]

Link to tweet

Looks like a radical left loonie to me.

[ZDU]

1. Flag waver

Checks box.
Next

[calimary]

30. Yep. Two of 'em, one on each side so you just can't miss 'em.

Reminds me of that song title “Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You Into Heaven Anymore.”

[SergeStorms]

36. His Trump 2028 flag....

must have fallen off when he was picking up speed before ramming the church. Another armed-to-the-teeth right-wing loony "making a statement."

[Lovie777]

2. When I visit Antelope Valley I see a lot of cars and trucks like that...............

[Crunchy Frog]

8. They must all be radical left terrorists.

[TheBlackAdder]

3. Someone with compounded nether region issues.

[TommyT139]

26. What does that mean?

(and yes, I do get that you were joking.)

[enid602]

4. Truck

But aren’t all pickups driven by the radical right black in color? With ‘truck nuts’ under the back bumper? And an overfowing ash tray?

[regnaD kciN]

43. Lots of them are white...

…just like their owners.

[Kaleva]

5. Kirk's alleged killer was raised as a Mormon

[murielm99]

6. Was Kirk a Mormon?

[Kaleva]

10. I don't think Kirk himself was a Mormon

I do not know if Robinson, the shooter, himself was a practicing Mormon as an adult.

[Jacson6]

24. No, He was an Evangelical xtian. n/t

[Lovie777]

9. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

maga's infighting?

[Abnredleg]

7. Other reports say this truck belongs to a first responder

Maybe we should take everything with a grain of salt and let the facts come out?

[Pototan]

22. The truck is registered to the shooter

2013 Silverado.

[Srkdqltr]

11. Probably some sort of fake.

Its not far enough into the wall to do any good.

[Crunchy Frog]

12. I've already seen completely different photographs of the same truck.

Nevertheless, I understand that everything is foggy so early on after an event of this nature.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Pic was before fire took over. Here's aftermath, truck still visible, flags still visible

[Crunchy Frog]

14. Thank you. First responders don't usually smash their trucks into sides of buildings do they?

I'm asking because there are people on this thread saying that it was a first responder.

[Lovie777]

15. It appears that truck did indeed slammed into the church...............

[taxi]

17. A few questions come to mind from seeing this photo.

The first being on the extent of the fire. Wasn't there an operable sprinkler system? That's quite a conflagration from a truck hitting a wall.
The second is how the truck could have reasonably be expected to penetrate the brick wall. The roadway in the foreground is not in a direct line with the area targeted, and involved going against the one-way traffic markers. Then there doesn't appear to be a tearing up of the grass or marks on the curb. It seems there would have to be some type of incendiary device introduced into the building.

[Kaleva]

21. He could have gotten his speed heading west down McCandish Rd

Veered right and headed right to the church

[kbowman]

28. Veered right for sure

I think he's been veering right for a long time

[SergeStorms]

38. Accelerants were surely used....

I'm not sure of incendiary devices, though. It could have been something as simple as an old-fashioned Molotov cocktail.

[Silent Type]

16. Both sides rushing to place blame on other side. Actual cause - most likely mental health and guns - totally forgotten.

[Crunchy Frog]

29. Bothsidesing this isn't valid.

Our side doesn't control the machinery of repression or of "law" enforcement. We don't have the ability to make policy on the "cracking down on domestic terrorism". They do, and are actively using it to target their political opponents (us), which is not something our side has ever done.

It's completely valid for us to point out when perpetrators of violence don't fit the regime's narrative.

[Sancho]

18. Antifa truck for sure!

[AverageOldGuy]

19. 40-yr-old former Marine, Iraq war vet

https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-marine-veteran-thomas-jacob-sanford-identified-as-michigan-church-shooter-report/

Authorities have identified a Marine veteran as the gunman who opened fire at a Michigan church and later set it ablaze, killing at least two people and wounding eight others on Sunday.

Thomas Jacob Sanford, 40, from Burton was confirmed as the shooter at a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints chapel in Grand Blanc Township about an hour from Detroit.

The New York Post reported that an old Facebook post by Sanford’s mother indicated he served in Iraq from 2004 to 2008.

Everything I read says "hundreds" of people were inside the church. Reports are that he was driving a Chevy pickup flying two big Amereican flags, rammed into the church doors, started shooting, then, something exploded. Overhead photos show the church as a big building, totally involved in flames. Most reports quote local authorities anticipate a lot of dead after they get the fire out.

Other comments I have read on various blogs says this is a rural part of Michigan that went heavily from Trump with MAGAts everywhere.

[ybbor]

23. Just outside of Flint

Not very urban, but I wouldn’t call it rural. Grand Blanc used to be the very affluent suburb of Flint before GM closed the majority of the plants, still nice, but not the same. Rural doesn’t come to mind. I grew up in Flint, and still have family in the area. Know it well.

[IbogaProject]

27. One American flag

The other had that blue fascist thin blue line.

[Blue Full Moon]

34. Now I'm wondering if this isn't the same scenario

As the New Orleans and Las Vegas. The guy who shot up the seafood restaurant. Another 40 yr old combat veteran. He tried to sue the government over straight white men genocide.

[Raven123]

20. When will we decide against drawing conclusions based on limited information?

[orangecrush]

40. Yup

[Maru Kitteh]

25. MURICA! Fuck yeah! USA, USA, USA!

Yup.

[Blue Full Moon]

31. The shooters house

[newdeal2]

37. What's with the stop sign? Is that part of the message?

[Coldwater]

32. License Plate also has the words Iraq

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[Grim Chieftain]

33. These depraved idiots have tried to turn the stars and stripes

Into a symbol of hatred, intolerance and violence. Damn them.

[doc03]

35. The flag on the left looks like the blue stripe flag supporting cops the MAGAs display. nt

[vanlassie]

41. Was there no room for him to get out on the drivers side?

[Hekate]

42. That's a helluva fire for a mass murder. Any word on what caused that?

[dalton99a]

44. .

[Vogon_Glory]

45. If the Mormons were smart, they'd reconsider their ties to the Far Right

If the Mormons were wise, they’d reconsider any ties they have to the Extreme Right. The Saints were widely persecuted in the mid—19 th century, and despite wishful thinking on the part of many LDS’ers and their leadership, the bigotry and hate directed at them way back when may have dwindled from what it once was, but it hasn’t died out. In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s abrupt departure from this mortal plane, those voices of hatred and religious bigotry are beginning to be heard again. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Mormons soon find themselves seated next to Muslims on the Radical Right’s hate list. Then they can relive their forebears’ persecution and calumny.