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Amaryllis

(11,000 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:17 PM Sep 2025

Trump: 'Am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening?' Why is this being ignored?

https://criticalread.substack.com/p/trump-am-i-watching-things-on-television?

Why is this quote not all over the national media? Because it raises questions about his mental competence.
Dan Froomkin
Sep 29, 2025
Why is one of the most extraordinary, revelatory quotes ever uttered by Donald Trump being ignored by the national media?

I’ll tell you why: Because it raises all sort of questions about his mental functioning and agency that the access-dependent Washington press corps would rather not acknowledge.

It confirms that Trump has no idea what he’s talking about. And it suggests he is either easily deceived, or manipulated, or both.

The quote in question came from a telephone interview Trump held on Sunday morning with NBC News White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor.

Alcindor herself ignored it, filing two unrelated stories instead.

Indeed, the quote only saw the light of day thanks to a sharp-eyed investigative reporter at KGW TV in Portland, the NBC affiliate there.

I haven’t been able to reach the reporter, Evan Watson, but clearly affiliates were sent a full transcript of the phone interview. (NBC News could not be reached for comment, either.) This is what Watson wrote:

During a Sunday morning phone interview with NBC White House Correspondent Yamiche Alcindor, though, Trump made some remarks that seemed to indicate he might be backing off his military plan for Portland.

Trump referenced a weekend conversation with Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek, and he alluded to being told by Kotek that the reality in Portland is different from what’s being portrayed to him.

“I spoke to the governor, she was very nice,” Trump said. “But I said, ‘Well wait a minute, am I watching things on television that are different from what’s happening? My people tell me different.’ They are literally attacking and there are fires all over the place...it looks like terrible.”

Think about that. Trump -- in a brief moment of lucidity, perhaps -- wonders out loud if maybe he’s been deceived by what he’s seen on television, and what his aides have told him.

It doesn’t last long, of course. But it’s still incredibly telling.

The fact is, of course, that Trump is completely, ludicrously wrong about what’s going on in Portland. He has been for nearly a month, ever since he watched a deceptively edited Fox News segment that depicted the city as a war zone. And his advisers have apparently been complicit in his hoodwinking.

Much more at link

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Trump: 'Am I watching things on television that are different from what's happening?' Why is this being ignored? (Original Post) Amaryllis Sep 2025 OP
Perhaps Krasnov was show news clips from the reaction to extra judicial murder of George Floyd thomski64 Sep 2025 #1
He's hallucinating Jilly_in_VA Sep 2025 #2
Yes it is possible he was shown pictures of Gaza or Ukraine. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #4
Nah, he was shown photos of Portland from a while back. GoCubsGo Sep 2025 #7
He is either lying or allowing himself to be manipulated. Irish_Dem Sep 2025 #9
He's both. GoCubsGo Sep 2025 #10
It was after GEorge Floyd and Trump sent his storm troopers in which of course made it much worse. Amaryllis Sep 2025 #18
Yeah, you're misremembering the violence. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #28
It was, however, only a few blocks downtown and not citiwide as they liked to paint it. Amaryllis Sep 2025 #45
It's called "confabulation" Warpy Sep 2025 #39
Absolutely correct. Trump does not know what is going on Raven123 Sep 2025 #3
I noticed today (for the very brief amount of time I could stand to watch/listen to him) Grammy23 Sep 2025 #16
Yep. It's a pattern. Markedly different from his first term. Raven123 Sep 2025 #19
If we're being generous, he's so delusional Hassler Sep 2025 #5
I dunno Dipshit, are you watching Faux, OAN, and Newsmax on the reg? Then the answer is unequivocally YES. AZJonnie Sep 2025 #6
Trump should watch local Portland station newscasts a few nights instead of Fox Walleye Sep 2025 #23
Miller is filling him with shit. spanone Sep 2025 #8
Yep. Every time I see Miller, I see him with his lips to Trump's ear, whispering in that fascist voice. Walleye Sep 2025 #24
Rasputin. travelingthrulife Sep 2025 #42
He's Grima Wormtongue (nt) AZJonnie Sep 2025 #50
Definitely Miller. Kristi "puppy killer" Noem too IcyPeas Sep 2025 #38
For one thing, he avoids the Daily Intelligence Briefing. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2025 #11
That may not matter if they are only telling him what he wants to hear. Amaryllis Sep 2025 #15
Perhaps he's getting the MillerTV feed /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #12
That's what I think. Hope22 Sep 2025 #30
yup Skittles Sep 2025 #40
It's like he doesn't understand, the news shows the worst thing happening, over and over questionseverything Sep 2025 #13
You can add a few million americans to that list of questionable mental competence progressoid Sep 2025 #14
He gets his info and knowledge in the exact same way MAGA Morons do Bristlecone Sep 2025 #17
Exactly. They are creating their own reality which they have to be inside of to talk to others. We are on the outside Un Walleye Sep 2025 #26
Give him the Biden test BaronChocula Sep 2025 #20
Da fuck are you talking? He already passed a test I couldn''t pass.. 3Hotdogs Sep 2025 #36
I think it was BaronChocula Sep 2025 #44
Thanks. Now I can write 'em down and call my kids and recite 'em. 3Hotdogs Sep 2025 #46
Two words....Steven Miller. BradBo Sep 2025 #21
Orange Krasnov: "Someone please remind me what planet I'm on?" nt sprinkleeninow Sep 2025 #22
I assume without reservation that Miller vanlassie Sep 2025 #25
Anybody out there remember... the caveat about computing from back in the mist? BurnDoubt Sep 2025 #27
He is inside the RW Propaganda bubble, and his staff are Propagandists. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #29
What exactly are these t-rump forces going to be doing in Portland? YouTube porn sites will be busy... wcmagumba Sep 2025 #31
All he does is watch tv LittleGirl Sep 2025 #32
Whe watching or listening to Trump my first question is "Why?" gordianot Sep 2025 #33
I do remember a couple of weeks ago, a reporter pointed out that Trump's descriptions of Bev54 Sep 2025 #34
Old videos from FIVE YEARS AGO. maxsolomon Sep 2025 #47
I think it raises questions about who's feeding him this bullshit? intheflow Sep 2025 #35
Wake up and smell the fucking coffee Evolve Dammit Sep 2025 #37
I saw that in a few places yesterday. iemanja Sep 2025 #41
I saw this yesterday and had the same thoughts jgmiller Sep 2025 #43
Krasnov has been crazy for years Botany Sep 2025 #48
Plenty of people in Portland were posting Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2025 #49
they are feeding him fake newz LyfeTimeDem Sep 2025 #51

thomski64

(849 posts)
1. Perhaps Krasnov was show news clips from the reaction to extra judicial murder of George Floyd
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:23 PM
Sep 2025

Jilly_in_VA

(13,852 posts)
2. He's hallucinating
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:28 PM
Sep 2025

Like most dementia patients, he's simply seeing things and remembering things that aren't there and didn't happen. I've been around enough of them, both in my life and in a 30- year career as a nurse, to know that.

Irish_Dem

(80,013 posts)
4. Yes it is possible he was shown pictures of Gaza or Ukraine.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:34 PM
Sep 2025

And is conflating them with Portland.

And it is quite possible he is lying out his ass.

So we don't know if it is the dementia or psychopath talking.

He has so many disorders it is hard to determine which
pathology is behind which behavior.

GoCubsGo

(34,684 posts)
7. Nah, he was shown photos of Portland from a while back.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:51 PM
Sep 2025

There was a stretch of time when there were protests for I forget what turned violent, fomented by the pocket of anarchists that reside in the city. It might have been related to George Floyd's death, but don't quote me on that. The violence occurred only within a few blocks of the downtown, but the right-wing media has been constantly trying to claim this is an ongoing thing, and that Portland is just bombed-out crater now. The Propaganda Channel is one of the worst culprits, and that's pretty much all Cankles watches. It's no surprise that he thinks Portland is a war zone. Ditto for L.A., Chicago and DC. He believes it, because that's all he has been fed.

Irish_Dem

(80,013 posts)
9. He is either lying or allowing himself to be manipulated.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:53 PM
Sep 2025

Any way we slice it, not good news for a POTUS.

GoCubsGo

(34,684 posts)
10. He's both.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:01 PM
Sep 2025

He's a pathological liar, and the most easily-manipulated person on the planet. All you have to do is flatter him, and tell him what he wants to hear. Or, in the case of the propaganda networks, what you think he wants to hear. And, yes. Not good news, at all.

Amaryllis

(11,000 posts)
18. It was after GEorge Floyd and Trump sent his storm troopers in which of course made it much worse.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:12 PM
Sep 2025

maxsolomon

(38,256 posts)
28. Yeah, you're misremembering the violence.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:45 PM
Sep 2025

There were nightly protests at Federal facilities throughout Portland during the Floyd protests, and yes, Black Bloc was involved. There was property damage and fires almost every night. Not so much looting; that mostly took place in other cities.

The worst violence was fomented not by "a pocket of anarchists", but by RW militia types (Patriot Prayer, based in Vancouver WA) deliberately seeking confrontations, which they then filmed and distributed online, which they had been doing for years prior to the Floyd protests.

The confrontations devolved into roving street fights, where, on 8/29/2020, Michael Reinoehl shot and killed Aaron Danielson, claiming imminent danger and self-defense.

4 days later, US Marshals tracked him to Lacey WA (near Olympia) and shot him down in the street - on Trump's orders.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Aaron_Danielson_and_Michael_Reinoehl

Amaryllis

(11,000 posts)
45. It was, however, only a few blocks downtown and not citiwide as they liked to paint it.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:47 PM
Sep 2025

Warpy

(114,413 posts)
39. It's called "confabulation"
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:32 PM
Sep 2025

He gets started on an idea, can't finish it, fils in the gaps with any horse shit he canthrow out there.

I doubt they'll pull the plug--they're a bunch of craven cowards--but they might relegate him to spokesmodel.

Edit: It's called "dystypia."

Raven123

(7,578 posts)
3. Absolutely correct. Trump does not know what is going on
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sep 2025

Notice he reads more from prepared texts than he used to. When he deviates he is incoherent, not just rambling.

I have noticed his frequent, but brief travels. A afternoon in Alaska? Not sure about the two day visit to England. Makes no sense. The people running the administration are just push in him out front while they do the work of destroying the country.

Grammy23

(6,091 posts)
16. I noticed today (for the very brief amount of time I could stand to watch/listen to him)
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:08 PM
Sep 2025

That he had his eyes glued to the written text. He barely looked up or around. When he does that, it tends to distract him so much he can’t stay focused on the topic at hand. I’m sure they strongly suggested he stick to the script. Not that he listens to anybody …except maybe the extra voices in his punkin head. 🙄

Raven123

(7,578 posts)
19. Yep. It's a pattern. Markedly different from his first term.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:20 PM
Sep 2025

I too saw today’s appearance briefly. Looked like he was half asleep. The problem is world leaders see it too, and it influences their behavior.

AZJonnie

(2,894 posts)
6. I dunno Dipshit, are you watching Faux, OAN, and Newsmax on the reg? Then the answer is unequivocally YES.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 03:49 PM
Sep 2025

Can you imagine if Biden ever said something to so clearly indicated he's both 1) losing his faculties, and 2) watching fucking TV instead of doing his ACTUAL JOB?

It would be on a nonstop reel for days, with dozens of interviews of people 'being concerned', and talking heads blathering about the subject, while openly saying it may be time for a 25A remedy.

Trump OTOH is such a cash cow for them, producing stories that bring in eyeballs and clicks without their having to spend a fucking DIME on actual journalism (well, I mean, they SHOULD be researching all of his bullshit and exposing it, but that takes time and energy, plus Mango Mussolini will sue them or revoke their licenses for fact-checking him).

Walleye

(43,878 posts)
24. Yep. Every time I see Miller, I see him with his lips to Trump's ear, whispering in that fascist voice.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:31 PM
Sep 2025

IcyPeas

(24,908 posts)
38. Definitely Miller. Kristi "puppy killer" Noem too
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:31 PM
Sep 2025

There's something deeply wrong with that woman.

She would've been one of the guards at Ravensbrook women's concentration camp.

Ravensbrück (German: [ˌʁaːvn̩sˈbʁʏk]) was a Nazi Germany concentration camp exclusively for women from 1939 to 1945, located in northern Germany, 90 km (56 mi) north of Berlin at a site near the village of Ravensbrück (part of Fürstenberg/Havel). The camp memorial's estimated figure of 132,000 women who were in the camp during the war includes about 48,500 from Poland, 28,000 from the Soviet Union, almost 24,000 from Germany and Austria, nearly 8,000 from France, almost 2,000 from Belgium, and thousands from other countries including a few from the United Kingdom and the United States. More than 20,000 (15 percent) of the total were Jewish.[4] More than 80 percent were political prisoners. Many prisoners were employed as slave laborers by Siemens & Halske. From 1942 to 1945, the Nazis undertook medical experiments on Ravensbrück prisoners to test the effectiveness of sulfonamides.[5]

Ravensbrück concentration camp - Wikipedia https://share.google/Se1EBZUObKQsYswVa

Ravensbrück concentration camp - Wikipedia https://share.google/i2ZX6fIYK2IXhLxUE


Bristlecone

(11,011 posts)
17. He gets his info and knowledge in the exact same way MAGA Morons do
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:09 PM
Sep 2025

Fox or their lesser OAN-type outlets.



Walleye

(43,878 posts)
26. Exactly. They are creating their own reality which they have to be inside of to talk to others. We are on the outside Un
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:33 PM
Sep 2025

Can’t understand what the hell they’re talking about

BaronChocula

(4,060 posts)
20. Give him the Biden test
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:21 PM
Sep 2025

Let's see if the child molester can recognize Kevin Sorbo or Chachi at a fundraiser.

3Hotdogs

(15,057 posts)
36. Da fuck are you talking? He already passed a test I couldn''t pass..
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:18 PM
Sep 2025

Man, Giraffe, Television and I can't even remember the last ones.

3Hotdogs

(15,057 posts)
46. Thanks. Now I can write 'em down and call my kids and recite 'em.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:53 PM
Sep 2025

Then I won't get laughed at by 'em anymore.

vanlassie

(6,221 posts)
25. I assume without reservation that Miller
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:32 PM
Sep 2025

is feeding him godknowswhat on a daily basis. Too bad his family won’t look out for him.

BurnDoubt

(1,514 posts)
27. Anybody out there remember... the caveat about computing from back in the mist?
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:33 PM
Sep 2025

"GIGO"... Garbage In... Garbage Out...?????
That Is All.
.

maxsolomon

(38,256 posts)
29. He is inside the RW Propaganda bubble, and his staff are Propagandists.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:48 PM
Sep 2025

It would be funny if it weren't infuriating.

One could argue he's been in that bubble of BS his entire life as he believes the NY Post.

wcmagumba

(5,691 posts)
31. What exactly are these t-rump forces going to be doing in Portland? YouTube porn sites will be busy...
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:52 PM
Sep 2025

gordianot

(15,745 posts)
33. Whe watching or listening to Trump my first question is "Why?"
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 04:58 PM
Sep 2025

Even though I know the answer.

Bev54

(13,229 posts)
34. I do remember a couple of weeks ago, a reporter pointed out that Trump's descriptions of
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:05 PM
Sep 2025

what was going on in Portland was referring to events of a few years ago and they wondered if he was being shown old videos. I suspect Miller and perhaps others may well be showing him either old videos or some from other places, including outside the US, knowing how many times these incompetents put things on social media that are totally inaccurate. He is too stupid to know the difference.

maxsolomon

(38,256 posts)
47. Old videos from FIVE YEARS AGO.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:54 PM
Sep 2025

Any "Antifa" types know that now is the time to vanish into the ether.

I haven't seen a posting on Rose City Antifa's FB page in years.

intheflow

(30,023 posts)
35. I think it raises questions about who's feeding him this bullshit?
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 2025

Miller & Lutnick probably ran some clips from 2020 demonstrations and told him it was happening again. I want them to ask where he gets his news from, where did he see Portland rioting in real time in 2025?

iemanja

(57,445 posts)
41. I saw that in a few places yesterday.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:35 PM
Sep 2025

Not on TV though. It was print journalism. I don't watch TV news except for the occasional clip on YouTube.

jgmiller

(671 posts)
43. I saw this yesterday and had the same thoughts
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 05:40 PM
Sep 2025

Obviously he's still a sick, evil person but this is really pretty clear evidence of his dementia. He was clear headed in the morning when Kotek spoke with him and then when he did the interview. 2 hours after this came out though he signed the orders for Portland, likely because Miller saw what happened and got the order in front of him.

Botany

(76,460 posts)
48. Krasnov has been crazy for years
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 06:09 PM
Sep 2025

Anybody who makes themselves look like
he does and looks into the mirror and thinks now that's a good look is completely
bat crap crazy.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,480 posts)
49. Plenty of people in Portland were posting
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 09:18 PM
Sep 2025

video of the city showing a peaceful city with people just going about their lives. Why doesn't he seek out alternatives to the TV shows that are lying to him & all their other viewers. Anyone with any intelligence would do so.

 

LyfeTimeDem

(252 posts)
51. they are feeding him fake newz
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:12 AM
Sep 2025

broadcasts instead of the PDB's.... because he likes to watch news all day.....so Bannon and Miller are feeding it to him like pablum.

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