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Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:11 AM Sep 2025

That is one pissed off Sergeant Major of the Army

Last edited Wed Oct 1, 2025, 08:56 AM - Edit history (1)

His name is SMA Michael Weimar and the look he's giving is one of pure nicotine and hate. And to his right is the Chief of Staff of the Army, Gen. Randy A. George. Note that S'arnt Major sports a Special Forces tab, while the CoS AUSA holds a Ranger tab.

And where are the tabs, any tabs, of the fucking drunk lecturing them? Nowhere because he was too much of a chickenshit to try.

Fuck him and his cowardly, bone spurred boss.

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That is one pissed off Sergeant Major of the Army (Original Post) Aviation Pro Sep 2025 OP
National security compromised by morons vapor2 Sep 2025 #1
Caffeine and hate for me orangecrush Sep 2025 #2
Bigwign Republican jerkoffs treated our honorable Military Leaders like "Suckers and Losers" Champp Sep 2025 #3
The military officer corp is almost unanimously Republican. RandySF Sep 2025 #4
Today, some minds were changed Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #7
Hopefully a fair amount of McCain types. nt Tommy Carcetti Sep 2025 #12
Do you have a source for that? IronLionZion Sep 2025 #14
I would have voted for Wesley Clark. BamaRefugee Sep 2025 #54
I voted for Clark in the primary. tblue37 Sep 2025 #79
And Mark Milley. (I also voted for Wesley Clark in the primary.) tblue37 Sep 2025 #78
Correct. Plenty of flag officers tend to be well educated and thoughtful IronLionZion Sep 2025 #82
Clarkie here! Sparkly Sep 2025 #80
Me, too. tblue37 Sep 2025 #87
I voted for Clark in the primary The Wizard Oct 2025 #115
You might be wrong. The ones in my family (retired) understand strategy & see AnotherMother4Peace Sep 2025 #19
I'll wager they're honorable Republicans who believe in protecting democracy and upholding the Constitution. sop Sep 2025 #25
Not True. And there's no doubt that even a significant portion of Republican Officers Wiz Imp Sep 2025 #33
I think popsdenver Sep 2025 #41
I agree. Sparkly Sep 2025 #83
"Pure nicotina and hate" Maru Kitteh Sep 2025 #5
Descriptive of some of the Sergeants Major that I knew Redleg Sep 2025 #23
And salty members of the Spec 4 mafia Aviation Pro Oct 2025 #107
LOL Redleg Oct 2025 #116
Since the fucker couldn't have a parade for his birthday UpInArms Sep 2025 #6
Hahaha Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #72
So, is the big meeting over? SheltieLover Sep 2025 #8
Yep, the fucking child rapist walked out to thundering silence Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #9
This reminds me of Brewster's Millions - great film SheltieLover Sep 2025 #10
My husband read most of Trump's speech to me this afternoon while I was cooking & HOLY FUCK!! CrispyQ Sep 2025 #88
I hope you're not exaggerating. What I saw on CNN website re the speeches Boomerproud Sep 2025 #22
We're Using the Term "Brain" in the Widest Possible Sense Here, Right, Wherein Earthworms Have One? The Roux Comes First Sep 2025 #67
The orange rapist bragged and threatened for 72 minutes. Ilsa Sep 2025 #34
Is pootin happy yet? SheltieLover Sep 2025 #11
Thank you for mentioning tabs. Here is the definition I learned from researching. John1956PA Sep 2025 #13
And none of them are fat Mblaze Sep 2025 #15
Maybe Petey's getting them confused with all the footage of ICE agents. tanyev Sep 2025 #32
Tom Homan could certainly drop a few. Mblaze Sep 2025 #38
If it's like other events TommyT139 Sep 2025 #57
That photo is one for the ages. Those men are not happy campers. Hekate Sep 2025 #16
It May Be Up To Them Mr.Bee Sep 2025 #17
Perhaps I'm being naive in my thinking EYESORE 9001 Sep 2025 #24
I would trust those guys in a second BaronChocula Sep 2025 #47
Yes, women were present ... Hope22 Oct 2025 #106
And then to show up BaronChocula Oct 2025 #112
It's really too much... Hope22 Oct 2025 #113
as a woman who served Skittles Oct 2025 #117
Many men don't realize how tough women are BaronChocula Oct 2025 #118
It's more than impossible that my stepsister, an Air Force veteran Hope22 Oct 2025 #119
it boggles my mind how any military person can support them Skittles Oct 2025 #120
Yes, this! Hope22 Oct 2025 #121
In this case, my opinion is yes. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #74
A question for the time... yellow dahlia Sep 2025 #91
That must have been when Mblaze Sep 2025 #18
That was insane. My peaceful, prosperous city Ilsa Sep 2025 #35
Where's Van Johnson when you need him? BaronChocula Sep 2025 #48
The Con Mutiny Mblaze Sep 2025 #50
I'm going to take a minor exception soldierant Sep 2025 #96
I'll have to agree with you. Mblaze Sep 2025 #97
Yes. That is a different decision making process. soldierant Sep 2025 #98
Queeg not an 06 JohnKilvik Sep 2025 #100
Thanks. soldierant Oct 2025 #103
Those definitely look like death glares. ananda Sep 2025 #20
From the look of these guys, they intend to fulfill their oath if Trump attempts to declare martial law. patphil Sep 2025 #21
Ironically, the best way for the military to coordinate a response if Trump were to go totally off the rails.... thesquanderer Sep 2025 #39
Those same thoughts BaronChocula Sep 2025 #49
You are not kidding. FalloutShelter Sep 2025 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author cilla4progress Sep 2025 #26
Mutiny against the Putinry! Blue Owl Sep 2025 #27
"Lions led by donkeys" comes to mind. Ocelot II Sep 2025 #28
So will this become an annual meeting, then? bucolic_frolic Sep 2025 #29
Only if Trump can figure out how to make them say at one of his 'clubs' at our expense. Attilatheblond Sep 2025 #66
THE Sgt Major of the Army. There's only one. underpants Sep 2025 #30
A picture wortth a thousand coups. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #75
Sidearms confiscated at the door. C_U_L8R Sep 2025 #31
I didn't think an officer in uniform was supposed to surrender their sidearm. hamsterjill Sep 2025 #58
Just imagining here. C_U_L8R Sep 2025 #61
I certainly hope so. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #76
Don't you know that these career military leaders hamsterjill Sep 2025 #36
Trump dodged the draft. Hegseth served. John1956PA Sep 2025 #37
Yeah, he served Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #40
Well thank you for clarifying because we always do want to be super accurate! hamsterjill Sep 2025 #55
yeah, but he is rapist and washed-up talk show host Skittles Oct 2025 #104
Which is the reason he didn't do it Tree Lady Sep 2025 #59
This was a dangerous, unnecessary, stupid meeting. colorado_ufo Sep 2025 #42
MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2025 #43
Can't wait until we see this fucking, drunken, failed, tabless infantry officer Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #44
Who is he? SharonAnn Sep 2025 #62
Jim Bakker Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #68
Sounds ĺike he's promoting war crimes. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #77
HE shouod do the honorable thing and resign--but of course he hsas no honor. tblue37 Sep 2025 #81
What are tabs ??? SamKnause Sep 2025 #45
See comment #13 n/t BaronChocula Sep 2025 #51
Look on the left shoulders of both men Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #52
Thank you. SamKnause Sep 2025 #60
It would be easier to recognize their importance if they carried the words "don't fuck with me, junior". nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2025 #64
And they both have the Combat Infantry Badge DinahMoeHum Sep 2025 #101
Yep Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #102
"Bone spur Bozo" playing to a tough crowd. oasis Sep 2025 #46
We have a failed game show host and neo Nazi in charge of the DOD. Initech Sep 2025 #53
yes Skittles Sep 2025 #70
Kegsbreath has a literal white power symbol tattooed on his chest. Initech Sep 2025 #84
gee, he is a gun humping coward Skittles Sep 2025 #85
Hegseth's tab ? Ask the bartender. nt eppur_se_muova Sep 2025 #63
The SMA has military authority equivalent to a Lieutenant (or three-star) General. Aristus Sep 2025 #65
That is a lot of pissed off people lonely bird Sep 2025 #69
No shit, right? The f'cking gall of these two bums. Joinfortmill Sep 2025 #71
The CMSAF also had the "I'm too old for shit" expression. sarge43 Sep 2025 #73
I Doubt DoD Will Comply with a CONUS-Focused, Urban Warfare Directive MrWowWow Sep 2025 #86
I hope they are thinking that this is the moment of reckoning... pacalo Sep 2025 #89
Figured the "no more dudes in a dress" quip might get Kegseth's ass in a sling. (Still allegorical oracle Sep 2025 #90
In a room filled with CIBs, Ranger and SF tabs, enough hashmarks to sink an aircraft carrier, a former drunk NG officer artemisia1 Sep 2025 #92
Not to mention Tridents Aviation Pro Sep 2025 #93
Good point. /nt artemisia1 Sep 2025 #95
Crazy that the SMAs last name is Weimar blue_jay Sep 2025 #94
Woke is gone...except SayItLoud Sep 2025 #99
My Father LPBBEAR Oct 2025 #105
There were plenty of Chief Master Sergeants at that stupid meeting. JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2025 #114
These officers are getting a special medal for yesterday LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #108
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2025 #109
Imagine having to sit there and listen to a shitstain like Hegseth insult an honorable soldier like Milley Mysterian Oct 2025 #110
Especially, his SF brothers Aviation Pro Oct 2025 #111
Kegsbreath Heftylefty Oct 2025 #122

Champp

(2,409 posts)
3. Bigwign Republican jerkoffs treated our honorable Military Leaders like "Suckers and Losers"
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:15 AM
Sep 2025

disgraceful.

Show some respect for once.

Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
7. Today, some minds were changed
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:18 AM
Sep 2025

As far as being stranded in DC, they'll fly out on their own dime and get reimbursed once the government opens back up.

IronLionZion

(50,848 posts)
14. Do you have a source for that?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 2025

Plenty of retired officers endorsed Democrats at our conventions. There are some Wesley Clark types out there.

IronLionZion

(50,848 posts)
82. Correct. Plenty of flag officers tend to be well educated and thoughtful
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:44 PM
Sep 2025

which is great for military strategy but bad according to MAGA

The Wizard

(13,604 posts)
115. I voted for Clark in the primary
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 01:16 PM
Oct 2025

I met him on the campaign trail and called him by his Call Sign when he was in the First Infantry. He looked stunned that anyone would remember trivia from 35 years earlier.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,027 posts)
19. You might be wrong. The ones in my family (retired) understand strategy & see
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:08 AM
Sep 2025

tRump for what & who he is. A lying piece of shit. They know bullshit when they see and smell it. It's right there in front of them. AND they do not trust Putin. AND they do not like pedophiles.

sop

(17,578 posts)
25. I'll wager they're honorable Republicans who believe in protecting democracy and upholding the Constitution.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:03 PM
Sep 2025

For every General Michael Flynn there are probably a hundred like General Mark Milley.

Wiz Imp

(9,072 posts)
33. Not True. And there's no doubt that even a significant portion of Republican Officers
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:28 PM
Sep 2025

are likely anti-Trump. Does anyone really think these people are Trump Supporters?

Gen. Charles "CQ" Brown Jr.: Fired as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on February 21, 2025.

Adm. Lisa Franchetti: Dismissed as the Chief of Naval Operations on February 21, 2025. She was the first woman to lead the U.S. Navy.

Gen. Timothy Haugh: Fired as head of both the National Security Agency (NSA) and U.S. Cyber Command in April 2025. He had served in intelligence and cyber operations for over 30 years.

Gen. Jeffrey Kruse: Fired as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) in August 2025. This occurred after the DIA reportedly contradicted White House claims about Iran's nuclear facilities.

Adm. Linda Fagan: Fired as Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard. She had been the first woman to hold the position.

Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force: Gen. James Slife was also dismissed in February 2025.

Lt. Gen. Jennifer Short: The top military assistant to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth was relieved of her duties in February 2025.

Gen. Mark Milley: His security detail and clearance were revoked in February 2025, and his portrait was removed from the Pentagon. Milley, a retired Army general who served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during Trump's first term, had become a vocal critic of him.

James Mattis
Mark Esper
James Anderson


popsdenver

(1,639 posts)
41. I think
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:03 PM
Sep 2025

we are all about to find out, just how deeply the MAGA Republican Party has infiltrated the U.S. Military, National Guard, and Reserves.....

Sparkly

(24,844 posts)
83. I agree.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:44 PM
Sep 2025

I think it's an assumption that something "macho" about the "military" means all vote Republican, since they lean heavily into hyper-machismo imagery (having some serious insecurities around masculinity in general, it seems).

It's always anecdotal, but I have two living veterans in my family - husband and brother-in-law, both Democrats. A close friend, career military, supported GW Bush is registered Independent, but votes Democrat. Past veterans include my father and father-in-law - Democrats.

I think it might be new recruits from certain backgrounds who were already Republican-leaning and overlap with Republicanism.

Redleg

(6,827 posts)
23. Descriptive of some of the Sergeants Major that I knew
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:39 AM
Sep 2025

A good turn of phrase. Applied to some platoon sergeants, master sergeants, and first sergeants too.

Redleg

(6,827 posts)
116. LOL
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 03:00 PM
Oct 2025

Spec 4's seemed to be an interesting group. Some were very gung-ho, clearly wanting to become sergeants while others acted like that was the last thing they wanted. Men of both types could be good soldiers and had the potential to be good NCOs, and I appreciated that some of the Spec 4s definitely questioned "the system" and the way things were done.

UpInArms

(54,133 posts)
6. Since the fucker couldn't have a parade for his birthday
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:17 AM
Sep 2025

this ability to summon all of the military brass makes his bitty mushroom peepee have a little spasm

Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
9. Yep, the fucking child rapist walked out to thundering silence
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:26 AM
Sep 2025

Somewhere in the recesses of his addled, fucking brain, the motherfucker knew he fucked up.

SheltieLover

(76,985 posts)
10. This reminds me of Brewster's Millions - great film
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:30 AM
Sep 2025

He inherited a fortune, but only if he could burn through millions in a matter of days.

Kraznov is bankrupting our country with this bs.

And just wait till the ICE lawsuits land squarely on the backs of taxpayers.

Ty for sharing.



On edit: film is very funny. Current scenarii not at all.

CrispyQ

(40,704 posts)
88. My husband read most of Trump's speech to me this afternoon while I was cooking & HOLY FUCK!!
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:38 PM
Sep 2025


I'll bet those guys were thinking two things. 1. I report to this guy?? 2. This guy has the nuclear codes???

If they've heard/read anything besides MSM news they were at least prepared a bit, but it was just an unbelievable hour & ten minutes! Unfuckingbelievable.

Boomerproud

(9,165 posts)
22. I hope you're not exaggerating. What I saw on CNN website re the speeches
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sep 2025

left my mouth agape at the hubris and smarmyness of both djt and Hegseth.

The Roux Comes First

(2,171 posts)
67. We're Using the Term "Brain" in the Widest Possible Sense Here, Right, Wherein Earthworms Have One?
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:50 PM
Sep 2025

Ilsa

(63,881 posts)
34. The orange rapist bragged and threatened for 72 minutes.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:42 PM
Sep 2025

I don't know how that many generals were able to sit still vs run up there and beat his face in, making Kegsbreath watch and wait his turn to get his.

John1956PA

(4,859 posts)
13. Thank you for mentioning tabs. Here is the definition I learned from researching.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 10:40 AM
Sep 2025

From https://combatoperators.com/expert-analysis/tabs-of-the-us-army/ :

Tabs of the United States Army refer to the cloth and/or metal arches used to display a word or words signifying a special skill worn on U.S. Army uniforms. Those tabs are used to identify a unit’s or a soldier’s special skill(s) or are worn as part of a unit’s unique heritage. Individual tabs are also worn as small metal arches above or below medals or ribbons on dress uniforms.

TommyT139

(2,155 posts)
57. If it's like other events
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:57 PM
Sep 2025

...seating was determined at least partly by looks.

That said, long-serving military officers seem to keep up with their fitness practices. More of them will be able to pass the twice a year test than anyone Trump has hired.

EYESORE 9001

(29,466 posts)
24. Perhaps I'm being naive in my thinking
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:57 AM
Sep 2025

but would a military coup be preferable to a dictatorship?

BaronChocula

(4,060 posts)
47. I would trust those guys in a second
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:17 PM
Sep 2025

over a career conman criminal and a chief lobbyist for tech billionaires. I think of our presidents who have served in the military from WWII on and they were pretty honorable.
(Nixon and W get an asterisk. HW squeaks by)

I think the vast majority of guys in the audience today have our nation's best interest in mind. I should say the PEOPLE in the audience if women are still allowed in the officer corp.

Hope22

(4,486 posts)
106. Yes, women were present ...
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 07:58 AM
Oct 2025

I’m sure that did not go unnoticed by K. Many of whom have endured harassment and rape to get where they are.

BaronChocula

(4,060 posts)
112. And then to show up
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 12:28 PM
Oct 2025

to be told they're only there because of DEI by one of the two most unqualified people in the room. The other being a rapist himself.

Skittles

(169,759 posts)
117. as a woman who served
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 03:04 PM
Oct 2025

it's hard to imagine being judged by these two rapists, one of whom is a draft dodger and seditionist

BaronChocula

(4,060 posts)
118. Many men don't realize how tough women are
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 04:16 PM
Oct 2025

due in part to all the BS men put them through. Women will take over when the rest of them stop catering to men.

Hope22

(4,486 posts)
119. It's more than impossible that my stepsister, an Air Force veteran
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:51 PM
Oct 2025

Supports the sick F! Her brother does as well, retired Army and enlistment officer. The sickness is real. I am the odd one out in the family and am regarded as a peacenik mouth breather. They make me physically ill!

Skittles

(169,759 posts)
120. it boggles my mind how any military person can support them
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 10:36 PM
Oct 2025

SHEER PROOF IT IS A CULT

Mblaze

(926 posts)
18. That must have been when
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:04 AM
Sep 2025

President Queeg told Hegadeth to use the inner cities for war practice.

Ilsa

(63,881 posts)
35. That was insane. My peaceful, prosperous city
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sep 2025

is NOT A FUCKING MILITARY TRAINING GROUND.

soldierant

(9,290 posts)
96. I'm going to take a minor exception
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 08:00 PM
Sep 2025

to the analogy to Queeg. The tragedy of Queeg was that at one time he was a fine officer. One doesn't get promoted to O-6 by screwing up. The seeds of his insanity may always have been there, but he must have been able to keep them in check prior to his promotion to Captain. And then they got out. Bligh I don't know about - that was another nation's Navy and a very different time. But Queeg - and I know in the movie that was communicated, I'm sure intentionally, in the faces of the officers who comprised the Court Martial. there's pity there, and pain.

The Apricot Antichrist has always been who he is and I can't see a sane person feeling sorry for him.

Mblaze

(926 posts)
97. I'll have to agree with you.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 08:32 PM
Sep 2025

I felt bad for Queeg. I don't feel anything but disdain for this narcissistic sociopath who hates America.

Perhaps one doesn't get promoted in the Navy for screwing up but evidently one can be elected President.

JohnKilvik

(5 posts)
100. Queeg not an 06
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 08:51 PM
Sep 2025

Nitpicky but Queeg was a Lt Commander (04) not an 06. The commanding officer of Navy ships are called captains regardless of their actual rank.

patphil

(8,739 posts)
21. From the look of these guys, they intend to fulfill their oath if Trump attempts to declare martial law.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 11:19 AM
Sep 2025

Their oath is to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
I wouldn't want to be in Hegseth's shoes at that point.

thesquanderer

(12,904 posts)
39. Ironically, the best way for the military to coordinate a response if Trump were to go totally off the rails....
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:01 PM
Sep 2025

... would be to get all the top brass together, in person, in the same place, at the same time. But that would never happen. Oh, wait...

I would not be surprised if there was some interesting water cooler conversation at this event, of a type that would not occur over any official lines of communications that might be able to be intercepted or preserved.

FalloutShelter

(14,206 posts)
56. You are not kidding.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:53 PM
Sep 2025

I just said this to a friend. You think these guys are not going to tap out this...A LOT?

Response to Aviation Pro (Original post)

underpants

(195,096 posts)
30. THE Sgt Major of the Army. There's only one.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:12 PM
Sep 2025

This is from another thread. This is in what looks to be E-8’s (Black Diamond rank)


C_U_L8R

(48,939 posts)
31. Sidearms confiscated at the door.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:12 PM
Sep 2025

So much for the 2nd Amendment, Tree of Liberty and all that.
I wonder if the paranoia gives Trump bad dreams.

hamsterjill

(17,094 posts)
58. I didn't think an officer in uniform was supposed to surrender their sidearm.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:01 PM
Sep 2025

Am I wrong?

C_U_L8R

(48,939 posts)
61. Just imagining here.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:17 PM
Sep 2025

But I’d be surprised if they did allow any weapons in that room. There are a few patriots remaining.

hamsterjill

(17,094 posts)
36. Don't you know that these career military leaders
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 12:55 PM
Sep 2025

Just love to sit and listen to a dumbass, chickenshit, draft-dodging sonofabitch tell them how it's going to be?

Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
40. Yeah, he served
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:02 PM
Sep 2025

As a tabless beyotch infantry officer who got shuttled off to the purgatory of S-9.

hamsterjill

(17,094 posts)
55. Well thank you for clarifying because we always do want to be super accurate!
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:43 PM
Sep 2025

But I was referring TO Trump in my post.

Just to clarify further - - - - I don't give a shit if Hegseth served. He obviously learned nothing from the experience. He has no honor. And that is the WORST insult someone can give to a person who did serve. NO HONOR.

Skittles

(169,759 posts)
104. yeah, but he is rapist and washed-up talk show host
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 01:19 AM
Oct 2025

who PIMPS for a drafter dodger rapist seditionist

Tree Lady

(13,029 posts)
59. Which is the reason he didn't do it
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 02:05 PM
Sep 2025

On zoom or email, they could mute and be reading a book or not even look at email.

He wanted to force them to have to pay attention to him. Show them who was the power.

colorado_ufo

(6,202 posts)
42. This was a dangerous, unnecessary, stupid meeting.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:03 PM
Sep 2025

Putting all top military leaders at risk in case of a terrorist attack, especially since this was widely advertised in advance. For NOTHING.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,358 posts)
43. MaddowBlog-Why Pete Hegseth's pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:03 PM
Sep 2025

Did the secretary bring generals and admirals in from around the world so he could treat them like a CPAC audience? Actually, yes, he did.

Why Pete Hegseth’s pitch to generals and admirals was even worse than expected

flip.it/GIAS0g

(@gypsydaveh.bsky.social) 2025-09-30T16:25:32.516Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pete-hegseth-speech-generals-admirals-rcna234674

But having heard the secretary’s remarks, he proved to be even worse than expected. Reuters reported:

U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth slammed ‘fat generals’ and diversity initiatives that he said led to decades of decay in the military and told a rare gathering of commanders on Tuesday they should resign if they don’t support his agenda. ‘Foolish and reckless political leaders set the wrong compass heading and we lost our way. We became the “Woke Department,”’ Hegseth said as he kicked off the event in Quantico, Virginia. ‘But not anymore,’ he said.


Choosing the worst moment from Hegseth’s bizarre and unnecessary speech is admittedly challenging. Was it his boasts about firing qualified military leaders? Or maybe his condemnation of diversity initiatives and climate change as “s---” that the military will no longer care about?.....

Maybe the lowest of the low points was Hegseth’s comment that seemed to open the door to a new attitude toward war crimes. “We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don’t fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country,” he declared. “No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement.”

Hegseth: "We unleash overwhelming and punishing violence on the enemy. We also don't fight with stupid rules of engagement. We untie the hands of our warfighters to intimidate, demoralize, hunt, and kill the enemies of our country. No more politically correct and overbearing rules of engagement."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-30T13:06:31.204Z


In other words, Hegseth spent millions of taxpayer dollars to bring generals and admirals in from around the world so that he could treat them like a CPAC audience.

As for those in attendance who might’ve been uncomfortable with the secretary’s absurdities, he extended some advice to them, too. “If the words I’m speaking today are making your heart sink, then you should do the honorable thing and resign,” Hegseth said.

Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
44. Can't wait until we see this fucking, drunken, failed, tabless infantry officer
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:08 PM
Sep 2025

Hauled off blubbering with snot coming out of his nose for his crimes against the nation. Sort of like this.

Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
52. Look on the left shoulders of both men
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:31 PM
Sep 2025

The Sergeant Major is wearing a long, blue one that designates that he is Special Forces qualified; the black and gold tab on the General's uniform designates that he's a graduate of Ranger School.

Both of these are referred to as tabs.

eppur_se_muova

(41,060 posts)
64. It would be easier to recognize their importance if they carried the words "don't fuck with me, junior". nt
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:31 PM
Sep 2025

Initech

(107,575 posts)
53. We have a failed game show host and neo Nazi in charge of the DOD.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 01:32 PM
Sep 2025

Which the fucking morons renamed to the Department Of War for some inexplicable reason.

Initech

(107,575 posts)
84. Kegsbreath has a literal white power symbol tattooed on his chest.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:05 PM
Sep 2025

In addition to having an AR-15 tattooed on his arm.

Aristus

(71,715 posts)
65. The SMA has military authority equivalent to a Lieutenant (or three-star) General.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 2025

The fact that he is an enlisted man should not cause one to doubt his authority and his military experience.

lonely bird

(2,786 posts)
69. That is a lot of pissed off people
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 04:26 PM
Sep 2025

I would wager even if some percentage is MAGA they still hold that they have taken an oath and will uphold that oath.

Joinfortmill

(20,175 posts)
71. No shit, right? The f'cking gall of these two bums.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:05 PM
Sep 2025

One is drunk and one is an Adderall freak. Hope the military squashes them like the bugs they are.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
73. The CMSAF also had the "I'm too old for shit" expression.
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 05:13 PM
Sep 2025

or the "this doesn't even qualify as mickey mouse or chicken shit" expression.
He was pissed.

MrWowWow

(1,461 posts)
86. I Doubt DoD Will Comply with a CONUS-Focused, Urban Warfare Directive
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:07 PM
Sep 2025

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That remains to be seen of course. DICKtater TRASHd💩mp may decide to have Blackwater (aka Triple Canopy aka Xi or some bogus shit) come in with their private security- militia-urban warfare tactics. Just like in RoboCop, except without the monster robots.
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pacalo

(24,850 posts)
89. I hope they are thinking that this is the moment of reckoning...
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:50 PM
Sep 2025

it's time to protect America's constitution and its citizens from domestic enemies. Now. Pronto.

allegorical oracle

(6,222 posts)
90. Figured the "no more dudes in a dress" quip might get Kegseth's ass in a sling. (Still
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sep 2025

hoping.) First thought it referred to females in the military. But after speaking with a serious left-wing friend, he suggested that maybe Kegseth was alleging that some military guys like to dress up when off duty...and that had to stop.

Anyone?

artemisia1

(1,445 posts)
92. In a room filled with CIBs, Ranger and SF tabs, enough hashmarks to sink an aircraft carrier, a former drunk NG officer
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:13 PM
Sep 2025

rages against general and flag officers over their political correctness, lack of attention to duty and physical fitness defects. This is the definition of "toxic leadership". If there is one positive result of this it will be that this massive insult may make it easier for them to refuse unlawful orders from Ranger Ramjet (Secretary of "War&quot and the Mango Mussolini.

blue_jay

(185 posts)
94. Crazy that the SMAs last name is Weimar
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 07:45 PM
Sep 2025

I'm no history buff but knew that Weimar rung a bell. Sadly it appears to have been a failed initial attempt at a democratic republic in Germany following WWI which ultimately led to the rise of extremist movements. Historians out there please fill in any blanks but hopefully he will come to the same fate as the aforementioned Weimar. I haven't heard the "speech" yet but hope that wiser minds prevail.

SayItLoud

(1,774 posts)
99. Woke is gone...except
Tue Sep 30, 2025, 08:45 PM
Sep 2025

FAFO, that's the WOKE of Fuck Around Find Out. These people are so fucking stupid.

LPBBEAR

(642 posts)
105. My Father
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 07:54 AM
Oct 2025

wasn't a high ranking officer. He was a Chief Master Sargent in the US Air Force and a lifer. He was generally a conservative and his politics could best be described as aligned with Archie Bunker. Even so, he despised people like Donald Trump and would have been royally pissed to be ordered to sit through speeches by morons like Trump and Hegseth. He hated incompetence. Even though I miss him daily I'm glad he is not around to see the shit show this country has become and the idiot fuckup in the White House.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,607 posts)
114. There were plenty of Chief Master Sergeants at that stupid meeting.
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 12:58 PM
Oct 2025

Technically, they were probably Command Chief Master Sergeants (same pay grade), accompanying their generals. Their main job was probably to keep their generals from jumping up and punching Hegseth in his stupid face.

I'm sure he sat through a lot of pointless meetings in his career.

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Mysterian

(6,191 posts)
110. Imagine having to sit there and listen to a shitstain like Hegseth insult an honorable soldier like Milley
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 09:59 AM
Oct 2025

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It's an amazing feat of discipline none of them went up there and kicked his sorry fucking ass.

Aviation Pro

(15,277 posts)
111. Especially, his SF brothers
Wed Oct 1, 2025, 10:05 AM
Oct 2025

I remember when that total shitstain and tabless beyotch infantry officer went to Stuttgart and strutted around 10th Group Special Forces’s gym during morning PT like he was even vaguely qualified to be there.

Fuck that posing shitbag.

Heftylefty

(32 posts)
122. Kegsbreath
Tue Oct 7, 2025, 12:50 PM
Oct 2025

He was designated an "insider threat" in 2021, which he blamed for his subsequent resignation from the National Guard. This of course makes him eminently qualified to occupy the position of Secretary of Defense.

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