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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeneral Mark Milley: "We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator."
General Mark Milley:
— Scott (@thegopisfubar2024.bsky.social) 2025-09-30T15:08:21.224Z
"We don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator."
sop
(17,578 posts)It's certainly not going to be Congress, the Courts or the Fourth Estate.
NCDem47
(3,337 posts)These are guys who have been extremely successful in the most authoritarian body in the world - the military. They didn't get there by challenging the thousands of BS orders they've carried out in their careers. Look, we need good military guys, but I'm not expecting for one minute that they are standing between us and an authoritarian. To me it's still judges. The the exception of the supreme court (sic).
C Moon
(13,492 posts)I think they are all bending to trump because its easier to bend now and wait for him to die, than it is to look for a new job, lose pension or sit in political prison.
markodochartaigh
(5,070 posts)how many elected officials believe that our problems will be over when Trump is gone. I get that very many people in the general population cannot handle, or refuse to see, that Trump is merely tapping the wellspring of authoritarianism in the US, that Trump is the pustulent tumor on the cancer in the US body politic.
But I wonder how many national or state elected officials believe that Trump is the only problem. I'm beginning to think that I would be gobsmacked to see that many do.
markodochartaigh
(5,070 posts)Well, there is also We, the People. Personally, I'm not real optimistic about us, but we shouldn't be left out in this discussion.
SamuelTheThird
(640 posts)That ain't a left-leaning institution.
COL Mustard
(8,008 posts)Theyll follow the Constitution.
sop
(17,578 posts)In 2020, "Trump told top US general to just shoot racism protesters, book claims. Gen Mark Milley, the top US military leader, resisted Donald Trumps demands that his forces 'crack skulls' and 'beat the fuck out' of protesters marching against police brutality and structural racism, according to a much-trailed new book...'Just shoot them,' the president reportedly said."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/25/donald-trump-general-mark-milley-crack-skulls
After the Lafayette Square incident Milley apologized for participating in a photo-op with Trump after peaceful protestors were forcefully cleared from Lafayette Square. Milley stated, "I should not have been there." Milley said the military's oath was to the Constitution, not to a "king, or a queen, or to a tyrant or dictator... or to a wannabe dictator." Trump will make sure officers like Milley will not be in command during his second term.
SamuelTheThird
(640 posts)As a whole, I don't think so
sop
(17,578 posts)Now he wants to do the same with the U.S. military. Historically, the U.S. military has always resisted becoming involved in domestic politics, and they're prohibited from taking part in domestic law enforcement activities by the Posse Comitatus Act. All this will change if Trump CAN purge the military of honorable and principled officers (Democrat or Republican) and replace them with his own people.
orangecrush
(28,687 posts)PatSeg
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(17,626 posts)JoseBalow
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skypilot
(9,101 posts)...saying anything like this?
jgmiller
(671 posts)While we would all like them to stand up and resign at once that's not a good idea. There are generals and admirals in that room that are MAGA of course but my guess is there are far more that are just as horrified as we are. If they quit then they are going to be replaced by the dangerous ones. The ones who respect the constitution and not Trump will hopefully already be planning to stay quiet but when the time is right to stand for the constitution and against the president. I hope it never comes to that but I really fear it will soon.
rubbersole
(11,005 posts)The first one is going to be braver than the first man to eat a raw oyster.
I don't want to sound like Pollyanna, but I think tsf and Kegsbreath poked the bear with a stick this morning. That had to be the most humiliating speech any of those military lifers have ever heard from a "commanding officer". Including boot camp.
msongs
(73,098 posts)employees is what matters and one suspects they are gung ho for the "new" military that can just rape torture and murder with impunity.