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no_hypocrisy

(54,360 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:05 AM Oct 2025

Trump is the "Front Man". Stephen Miller and Russell Vought are running

the country.

It started with Elon Musk. He's gone. Now it's the Miller and Vought Show.

Trump doesn't have the attention span, the imagination, and the cognitive skills to make all the changes we're seeing.

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Trump is the "Front Man". Stephen Miller and Russell Vought are running (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Oct 2025 OP
I tend to agree with this analysis. chicoescuela Oct 2025 #1
To be fair, he also cares about his ballroom. And his new patio. tanyev Oct 2025 #8
Very fair chicoescuela Oct 2025 #9
Trump has always just been the front man MadameButterfly Oct 2025 #2
DOTUS COL Mustard Oct 2025 #3
I believe the data indicate that this is true liberalgunwilltravel Oct 2025 #4
I have called him the "Sock Puppet/Monkey" from day one... IthinkThereforeIAM Oct 2025 #5
This has been the case all along. GoCubsGo Oct 2025 #6
Project 2025 has been his instruction manual all along. Vought's little plan is working out bigly. Timeflyer Oct 2025 #7
I think the people calling him "President Musk" had a lot to do with the breakup between Musk and Cankles. Scrivener7 Oct 2025 #10
Larry Ellison is the shadow president Blue Full Moon Oct 2025 #11
I think it's a little more complex. Tommy Carcetti Oct 2025 #12
I agree. And that is incredibly frightening, dangerous, and disgusting... hlthe2b Oct 2025 #13
MAGA wants to completely hobble representative govt... returnee Oct 2025 #14

chicoescuela

(2,659 posts)
1. I tend to agree with this analysis.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 05:35 AM
Oct 2025

Tsf is way too stupid. All he cares about is the retribution.

tanyev

(48,702 posts)
8. To be fair, he also cares about his ballroom. And his new patio.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:35 AM
Oct 2025

And his fancy new plane. Oh, and covering every inch of the White House in gold.

But, no, he does not really care about running the country.

MadameButterfly

(3,772 posts)
2. Trump has always just been the front man
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:11 AM
Oct 2025

for businesses where people with actual skills did all the work. Trump doesn't know how to build a building. His role was to buy stuff at too high a price to make a profit, figure out ways to cheat on taxes and stiff workers, and pick out the upholstry for furniture and where to put the gold leaf.

Mary Trump was assigned to write about him when she was younger. She told him, "I don't know what you do."

COL Mustard

(8,006 posts)
3. DOTUS
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:11 AM
Oct 2025

Isn’t smart enough to arrange all of this chaos. He’s evil enough, but not smart enough. He’s like the anti-Stewart Smalley and gosh darn it, people just don’t like him.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,090 posts)
4. I believe the data indicate that this is true
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:27 AM
Oct 2025

Vought is a fanatic, White Xtian Nationalist whose wet dream is to impose his mental illness on all of America. Miller is an insecure sadist who lives to see other people suffer. Neither should have another peaceful day in their lives.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,282 posts)
5. I have called him the "Sock Puppet/Monkey" from day one...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:30 AM
Oct 2025

... he is the entertainment, distraction and focus of ire, while Miller and Vought and Theil and Eloon et all are doing the dirty work, and I do mean dirty. It is all about getting rid of accountability for tax cheats, shysters and crooked business people.

Timeflyer

(3,695 posts)
7. Project 2025 has been his instruction manual all along. Vought's little plan is working out bigly.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:57 AM
Oct 2025

Scrivener7

(58,446 posts)
10. I think the people calling him "President Musk" had a lot to do with the breakup between Musk and Cankles.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:38 AM
Oct 2025

We should start referring to "President Miller" and "President Vought."

Tommy Carcetti

(44,422 posts)
12. I think it's a little more complex.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:49 AM
Oct 2025

Trump is the front man, but willingly so. In other words, he's not a clueless puppet.

He loves being in charge, the adulation, the power, and the prestige. He likes ordering around big things, trying to persecute his enemies, threatening war, peacocking in front of his military, etc.

He does not like the nitty-gritty of the job, though. He does not have the attention or the intelligence for the fine details of his plans. That stuff he likes to delegate to others. Elon at first, and now Miller and Vought.

But he's not being manipulated. He's egocentric, lazy and evil, but he willingly lets the shadowy, smarter but evil folks do his grunt work.

Don't let him off the hook. The buck has always stopped at him alone.

returnee

(833 posts)
14. MAGA wants to completely hobble representative govt...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 03:16 PM
Oct 2025

….in the US. This is also what Putin wants. I believe Putin is running TSF in collaboration with white christian nationalists.

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