there is a tsunami coming and it's going to crash on the repukes shores...

[Javaman]

I read way too much history and sociology. I love to see how socialital trends play out.

I posted yesterday this link about the jobs report
https://www.kxan.com/news/national-news/america-saw-essentially-no-job-growth-last-month-moodys-warns/

and it basically shows that there is zero job growth. And given the recent jobs reports showing a dramatic decline in job availability, I do not think this bodes well for the repukes at all.

as much as the orange asshole fires people, buries reports and obfuscate issues, the reality, in a few short months, there will be a very pissed off portion of the population. They will have been out of work and unable to find a jobs for many many months.

I have long maintained, that there will be less a civil war and more of a revolution. Odd timing on our upcoming 250 anniversary of our nation.

revolutions take many forms, not always with guillotines.

But I do know that the winds of change are certainly in the air and the right wing are doing all they can to keep that tamped down. And history has shown time and time again, that never works. It's like trying to keep the lid on a boiling pot of water.

unless by some stroke of magic, the orange asshole as a moment of clarity and stops the tariff bullshit and all his other halfwittery, 2026 is going to be one for the history books.

just my two cents.

[malaise]

1. Yep

The tremors before the big quake that foments the tsunami have already begun.
Rec

[Bluestocking]

2. I wonder what event will trigger the collapse

I am thinking perhaps when the Supreme Court rules that the tariffs are unconstitutional. All that money that will need to be paid back. No money to bail out the farmers.

[gab13by13]

7. The farmers will be paid off.

Shit, Krasnov even sent billions to Argentina to prop up their economy, who approved that?

[Javaman]

8. I think the farmers will only get a pay out AFTER many of them have already lost their farms to the banks.

that means less of a "pay out".

[brakester]

57. I'm sure

that was carefully planned from the beginning.

[vapor2]

53. I want to say SOT Scott Bissent who refused to sell his Dakota farm

https://www.thefencepost.com/news/bessent-hasnt-sold-his-north-dakota-farmland/

[Lonestarblue]

35. This Court sides with Trump. I doubt they will declare his tariffs illegal.

[Phoenix61]

3. I think Black Friday will be their undoing.

Holiday sales are going to crash because the shelves are empty and what is there costs more than people can afford. Corporations will realize low taxes don’t mean shit when there’s no profits to tax.

[Javaman]

9. definitely a preview of what's to come for sure. nt

[KS Toronado]

33. I question if the shelves are empty, more likely just higher priced

Maybe we should all stop shopping for Christmas. Huge drop in shopping on black
Friday and the news media will be all over the subject questioning why, and the
reason they'll come up with is the buying public is broke & the economy is going
down the drain.

[Lonestarblue]

39. Some corporate profits have taken a hit from tariffs, so they have less money to hire.

Democrats need to be hammering the change in jobs created under Trump versus Biden. Here’s the last full month under Biden:

Nonfarm payrolls surged by 256,000 for the month, up from 212,000 in November and above the 155,000 forecast.
The unemployment rate edged down to 4.1%, one-tenth of a point below expectations. A broader jobless measure moved down to 7.5%, a decrease of 0.2 percentage point and the lowest since June 2024. (From CNBC)

From 256,000 to 0 in only 8 months. Trump has destroyed job opportunities for millions of Americans while forcing price increases on most consumer goods with his stupid tariffs.

[617Blue]

4. The USSC will save him by ruling against him on tarriffs.

They're cool with taking away freedom but not cool with hurting the billionaires and Wall Street.

[gab13by13]

6. The stock market is at record highs

Krasnov is already planning how to spend his tariff money, the SC better hurry up and rule because the money collected will be gone.

[Javaman]

10. maybe that's the plan. nt.

[617Blue]

58. The market is not the economy - 6 months from now the indexes will look much different

Disastrous economic policies will hit eventually.

[gab13by13]

5. Who is going to lead the revolution?

Krasnov doesn't give a shit if polls show his popularity is at 2%.

The goal of Project 2025 is to kill unwashed Americans, it doesn't matter their political party.

The Kaiser Family Foundation did a study and found that if the cuts to our healthcare stay as they are projected, 50,000 American will die per year.

I agree, we need an Alexi Navalney but we don't have one. Magats will die and have "I Owned The Libs" inscribed on their tombstones.

The only way we can throw out the billionaires is for unwashed Magats to join with us and revolt, that day isn't happening soon enough.

[Javaman]

11. revolutions, very generally speaking, really. don't have a leader at the start...

a leader usually emerges when things really get going.

[Magoo48]

24. The revolution has already begun. It is being led by individual citizens across this country.

The revolution is now pointed and moving forward. You can see it every day if you look. People are defending in neighborhoods and their families.

[Wednesdays]

32. Indeed. Just take a peek at how things go next Saturday, October 18. nt

[malaise]

42. Look at election results as well

Keep on posting election details

[OMGWTF]

46. Go to www.nokings.org to find your local tribe.

[Magoo48]

56. Yup, looking forward to it.

[róisín_dubh]

61. Mexico's Revolution...

began with a whimper- a call to arms on 20th November 1910. And fuck all happened for the most part. But little by little from that day, different leaders in various parts of the country took issue with the myriad problems Mexico faced at the time (collapsed economy, racist old fucker dictator at the helm of a part of equally racist "yes" men, social ills, labor problems, etc) and knitted together a successful revolution that brought about the most radical constitution that the world had seen up to that point.

I mean, hundreds of thousands died in the ensuing years- so maybe we can skip that part. But in many ways, Mexico's issues then mirrored our own: a vast country with a bunch of different and serious issues; regional variations and rivalries; loads of foreign interference (thanks US, Germany, Britain and France). They needed not one leader, but many and that's what made them successful (though in the end was the undoing of all of the leaders- the bravado and different motivations, but I digress).

[dalton99a]

12. The job market is shitty, and prices keep rising - groceries, insurance, utilities, etc. etc.

Democrats must concentrate on economic issues

[bronxiteforever]

17. Agree. But also the looming war threat of Putin

In the simplest of terms, Americans do understand that a wider war in Europe will hit the United States. We have two World Wars to remind them.

[NCDem47]

13. No doubt there is hardcore...HARDCORE...evidence out there that could bring this Trump house of cards down

Will anyone care when it does drop? Will Trump, his minions and RW media apparatus dial the gaslighting up to negate any real proof? If only 50% of country is outraged and the other shoulder shrugs...then what?

[Gimpyknee]

16. Well said.

Trump will convince his moronic minions that it’s Biden’s fault.

[Mollyann]

14. History rhyming

The rise of the far right again AKA Nazis. Maybe they are seeing the writing on the wall and are propping up Argentina as a landing place when the populace starts building guillotines.

[PatSeg]

15. Not likely to be a "moment of clarity"

for old Double-down Donnie. If something isn't working for him, he just doubles down and gives us even more of the same.

[eppur_se_muova]

18. Federal employees given paid leave by DOGE twerps will appear in the next month's unemployment figures.

Should be quite a surge in jobless numbers. Turnip is hoping to fire 750,000 more because of the shutdown.

Trumpvilles will be the new Hoovervilles.

[Attilatheblond]

34. Ah! So THAT'S why he wants to make sleeping outside illegal!

Gotta keep the victims of the economy invisible until EVERYBODY is a victim and hungry enough to agree to anything for an occasional crust of bread.

[Mr.Bee]

19. I'm hoping that all Americans

will wake up and realize what this one party has done these last decades.
Use this time as a lesson. One party lies constantly, changes the rules.
Oh, but keep voting for them, because that's what they tell you to do.

[Boomerproud]

38. The voters have proven they haven't woken up.

nt

[WinstonSmith4740]

20. Forget where I saw this

It may have even been a post here at DU. When there's this much of a disparity between the obscenely wealthy and the rest of us, they really shouldn't be surprised when we start sharpening the guillotines.

[NCDem47]

30. The oligarchs are having their moment.

But as history has shown, it never lasts. NEVER. All of us may be gone (or not!) when a correction comes.

[Attilatheblond]

36. The ruins of old castles & fortresses in Europe should remind them, but

they are happy with their delusions.... again.

[eShirl]

52. that reminds me of the poem Ozymandeus by Percy Bysshe Shelley

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46565/ozymandias

[Blue Full Moon]

21. Jobs report is probably worse than what is stated

Trump fired the person who released the jobs lost numbers because it didn't fit his narrative. The new person put in that position knows that. Tell the truth and get fired or tell the orange baboon what he wants to hear and keep their job.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. There is NO new person in that position. Please check before posting and get important facts straight. . . . nt

[flashman13]

22. Trump is too stupid and arrogant to back down on his big beautiful tariffs that are bringing in trillions.

But what about the price of eggs?

[Timewas]

23. Be interesting

To see how it goes with X-mas coming and no jobs and all the government people getting stiffed for the shutdown.

[Joinfortmill]

25. I'm with you. The People have had enough and it's only going to get worse...

But, it isn't going to be easy because Trump and his minions are going to do their best to fuck with the elections. It's going to be a scary ride if he tries to invoke the Insurrection Act, especially with the SCOTUS we have now. Hang on tight. VOTE!

[WiVoter]

26. We Need Our Navalny

[OLDMDDEM]

27. I believe you have hit the nail on the head. Good job.

[jmbar2]

28. Mass layoffs risk triggering another housing crash

Credit delinquencies are climbing. Private equity vultures were advertising awhile back for home foreclosure inspectors in several areas in Oregon.

[Attilatheblond]

48. Fraud in realestate is getting to be a BIG problem now too. Only way for regular crooks to profit

Land title insurers are having nightmares with all the fraud and it is only getting worse with the technology available to con artists. Lower level fraudsters who don't want to get real jobs are doing some profoundly entertaining things to separate honest but gullible people from their money.

One wonders: just who do the private equity vultures think they will buy the homes they foreclose on? Working people already can't afford rent. Oh yeah, the class that has some money but no common sense and thinks they can become princes too.

To put it bluntly, this country is the United States of Fraud.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

29. The silver lining here--to the extent that there is one--is that my biggest fear was not realized. My biggest fear...

...was that the new Administration would come in and not change things; ride the Biden economy to the mid-terms and work hard to gain as much popular support as possible to turn congress and the country even more red before leveraging that support and overwhelming numbers in congress into a more subtle but more entrenched authoritarianism.

Clearly this is not what they did. Fortunately for the future they did all of the stupid things they said they would and a lot more. This really does give us the best chance of saving democracy--as odd as that sounds.

[Attilatheblond]

49. You are spot on, but Trump feels the Grim Reaper breathing down his neck and wants it all NOW

His bosses have to give in to the tantrum thrower in chief until he drops, so things are moving faster than logic would dictate.

[Ol Janx Spirit]

55. My theory was always that he would find himself unable to play the long game...

...regardless. Spoiled-brat rich kids don't know how to curb their impulses to take what they want right now--and narcissistic spoiled-brat rich kids don't even understand they are "taking" anything. That would be like stealing your own wallet.

How many narcissists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. They just hold up the lightbulb and the world revolves around them.

But if your theory is correct I'm not going to complain about it.

[Mister Ed]

37. In a free and fair election, the GOP will take what Obama once called a "shellacking" in the midterms.

The focus of the GOP's efforts, therefore, is to ensure that there is not a free and fair election.

[Clouds Passing]

40. And KKurtis Yammerin' wants to leave the country because his fascist movement is failing.

[malaise]

43. They'd better have a huge aircraft at the ready

but who will take them?

[Clouds Passing]

44. I was hoping the Hague might want to try them

[malaise]

47. Perfect

Rec

[haele]

41. It's a race.

How quickly can the wannabe oligarch factions work together well enough to damage, dismember, or discourage any potential opposition mechanisms so they can remove enough of the population and be able to "rule", as opposed to how quickly will the average US Citizen wake up and realize the long Con and what it means for their personal situations.

I figure the Oligarchs need to take 1/3 of the citizen population of the US out of play over the next year to be able to do what they want unimpeded. They have about 15% completely on their side, and another 20% they've made nihilistic enough who they feel won't interfere unless really pushed (i.e., until it's too late).

And it's not a left or right situation. It's a moral survival situation.
Capitalistic Monopoly systems are zero sum organizations, and oligarchs are the embodiment of the monopoly. There's the oligarch, and then there's everyone else under the oligarch who has to depend on their good will to remain in that system.
As evidenced by the citizenry of current Russia, anyone outside such a system is left to survive on their own; if they're lucky, as a serf to be able to glean a little of the leftover crumbs if the system needs more bodies.

IDK about you, but even though over the years I have learned skills to build tools and survive off whatever I can scavenge in either rural environments or urban ruins around me with nothing but the clothes on my back to start with, I'm too old and disabled to be able to without a lot of willing hands and minds to help me.

[azureblue]

45. Trump is in a race

To try to take over the country before the consequences of his BS catches up with him. Especially his child raping. But the wild card is that Trump is senile - he has lost his mind. All he does is watch Fox, post rants, and make decrees based upon what he sees on TV. All he does is react. 25th amendment and all that.

I doubt he will be successful in taking over the country, but I have no doubt he will not go quietly, and no doubt his supporters will try to protect him.

And I am sure that the rich, the MAGAs, the GOP, are meeting to find a way to get him out of office and replace him with one of their own. There is no one, but the moment they find one, then out he goes..

[Demsrule86]

50. I agree completely.

[dweller]

51. Did someone say revolution ?

✌🏻

[Racygrandma]

54. I think the restaurants are hurting

I know a maintenance gal for Applebees and was let go, they hired someone cheaper. People are not eating out.

[wiggs]

59. TSF needs a win. One reason why I wonder what we gave up to Israel and Gaza and others to get an agreement

on the table. Moreso...why outlets are fawning over the deal-making, at least temporarily, for an cease fire/hostage agreement that leaves a lot uncertain.

[wiggs]

60. And I wonder how much he's paying (our money) and threatening other countries to support a Nobel prize for this. nt