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eppur_se_muova

(41,038 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:13 PM Oct 2025

Rep. Grijalva does NOT need to be sworn in by the Speaker ..... others can do the job, and have done so in the past.

The Speaker or Speaker Pro Tempore must swear in members who miss the mass swearing-in ceremony on the first day afterward; on rare occasions, the House has authorized other Members or local judges to swear-in absent Representatives.

https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Oath-of-Office/


I.E. THAT'S THE HOUSE'S OWN F***ING WEB PAGE AS THE SOURCE

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Rep. Grijalva does NOT need to be sworn in by the Speaker ..... others can do the job, and have done so in the past. (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Oct 2025 OP
Just effin malaise Oct 2025 #1
So the House has to approve letting a judge do the swearing-in? Qutzupalotl Oct 2025 #2
K&R UTUSN Oct 2025 #3
Johnson is not going to do it, so get on with it. GoodRaisin Oct 2025 #4
So how do we get around that? calimary Oct 2025 #5
Taxation Without Representation.... we all know the next line Attilatheblond Oct 2025 #6
Not likely onenote Oct 2025 #13
Being forced to pay taxes but not allowed representation isn't enough to have standing? Attilatheblond Oct 2025 #14
Nope. onenote Oct 2025 #16
Ha. That's funny. Like rules and laws matter any more. progressoid Oct 2025 #7
Perhaps Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson could be called-upon to remedy this Constitutional aberration. BurnDoubt Oct 2025 #8
That's my thought. IrishAfricanAmerican Oct 2025 #9
Only if specifically authorized by House resolution onenote Oct 2025 #10
Aw, hell, I'd much rather be sworn in by Hakeem Jeffries Warpy Oct 2025 #11
For the Epsteinth time, release the files surfered Oct 2025 #12
Squeaker of the House is absent and unaccounted for MerryBlooms Oct 2025 #15

Qutzupalotl

(15,670 posts)
2. So the House has to approve letting a judge do the swearing-in?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:31 PM
Oct 2025

That makes progress less likely.

GoodRaisin

(10,745 posts)
4. Johnson is not going to do it, so get on with it.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:09 PM
Oct 2025

Krasnov has told Johnson in no uncertain terms absolutely do not swear that woman in.

calimary

(89,096 posts)
5. So how do we get around that?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:02 PM
Oct 2025

Her constituents who chose her to represent them are being robbed, defied, and insulted - every minute that this drags on.

Attilatheblond

(8,334 posts)
6. Taxation Without Representation.... we all know the next line
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:13 PM
Oct 2025

People in AZ 7 are generally well below wealthy. They have withholding taken out of their pay checks every payday. And they are without representation in the US House of Representatives. Any way some lawyers can file a class action suit against Mike Johnson?

onenote

(45,993 posts)
13. Not likely
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 03:36 PM
Oct 2025

She would be the one with standing and she is unlikely to sue at least not yet.
It’s been 17 days since she was elected. While that’s an atypically long period to wait to be sworn in, there are several recent examples of members — of both parties— not being sworn for two weeks. If it was to continue to be delayed after Johnson reconvenes the House she will have a stronger case

Attilatheblond

(8,334 posts)
14. Being forced to pay taxes but not allowed representation isn't enough to have standing?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 04:38 PM
Oct 2025

Not gonna buy that, as I am a neighbor to those in that district.

onenote

(45,993 posts)
16. Nope.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:40 PM
Oct 2025

And its unlikely the courts would take the case, at least not under the current facts.

I'm not in any way defending Johnson, who is plainly avoiding swearing her in for partisan reasons. But its just a fact that there is no specific requirement for when a new member gets sworn in. There are examples where the swearing in has not occurred until a month after a special election and two weeks is pretty common. And those facts make court intervention, at least at this point in time, unlikely.


BurnDoubt

(1,505 posts)
8. Perhaps Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson could be called-upon to remedy this Constitutional aberration.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:24 PM
Oct 2025

onenote

(45,993 posts)
10. Only if specifically authorized by House resolution
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:43 PM
Oct 2025

The assignment of the Speaker to swear in members is enshrined in statutory law — 2 usc 25 to be precise. The only instances where someone other than the speaker has sworn in a member have been situations where the House authorized that action by resolution. And so long as Johnson keeps the House in recess there can’t be a vote on such a resolution.

So, no, no judge or clerk or anyone can officially swear in a new member

Warpy

(114,406 posts)
11. Aw, hell, I'd much rather be sworn in by Hakeem Jeffries
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:54 PM
Oct 2025

than Marshmallow Mike Johnson, a man so deeply in thrall to his Lard and Savior that even a marshmallow might be more substantial than he is.

Yes, it's Johnson's job and his refusal to DO HIS FUCKING JOB should be one thing Democrats hammer him with next year.

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