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biocube

(176 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:25 PM Oct 2025

It's time for Democrats to distance themselves from the ACA and be all-in on Medicare for All

We're already subsidizing the administrative costs of the middle men in health care and insurance company profits. Might as well cut them out and just subsidize health care instead. If there was a "free market" solution to make health care affordable Republicans would've found it already.

And when Republicans say "b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Canada!" just remind them they have some issues but they're only one of the few developed countries that figured out long ago for-profit health care doesn't control costs we're the only developed country that pretends that they do. Even the conservative Mercatus Center has found that Medicare for all will save us money.

It would also be good marketing for Democrats. Democrats need aggressive marketing to be the party of working people and not liberal upper middle class suburban moms.

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Nanjeanne

(6,512 posts)
2. Yes. Ive been saying this from the start of this "negotiation" to hand $$$$ to private insurances cos
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:38 PM
Oct 2025

so people can afford their premiums even if they can’t pay their yearly deductibles. Taxpayer $$$ from people who struggle to meet their deductible is insane and now is the perfect opportunity to take control of the narrative when it’s so obvious how insurance companies are running this scam.

leftstreet

(38,902 posts)
4. +1
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:41 PM
Oct 2025

The health care $$ balloon is going to burst

Best to get out in front of a national single payer plan before the GOPers do

BlueTsunami2018

(4,876 posts)
3. They should. They won't.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 12:41 PM
Oct 2025

Not until their corporate sponsors in the health insurance industry are told to go pound sand. That’s the sticking point and it’s highly unlikely to happen.

I know it’s nice to think that these guys are there to look after the People but they’re there to make sure the profits keep coming in. The insurance industry is one of the biggest wringers of cash from regular folks that there is. Yay capitalism!

MichMan

(16,666 posts)
6. Current Medicare recipients pay around $200 a month after pre paying into it for 40 years.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:05 PM
Oct 2025

How much would it cost people to be enrolled from day 1?

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
7. Suggest securing ACA before going full-blown Medicare-for-All at this point. We might have a chance at former, latter
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:16 PM
Oct 2025

ain't gonna happen, although some form of Public Option is possible.

Ars Longa

(443 posts)
8. "Amen" Brother (sister?) Biocube ....... I believe we will see in the coming
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:16 PM
Oct 2025

weeks and months, a "Great Turning Away" by the American people from these tired old
corrupt systems.......It would be highly advantageous for the Democratic Party to be on the
right side of this argument!!....

Cirsium

(3,404 posts)
11. a winning electoral policy?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:46 PM
Oct 2025

I can tell you what is definitely not a winning electoral policy - tailoring your positions to what you think will be a winning electoral policy.

mvd

(65,841 posts)
10. Yes, agreed. But let's still focus on the ACA subsides right now
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:32 PM
Oct 2025

They are an immediate concern.

creeksneakers2

(7,932 posts)
13. I think we should stick with the problems we have now
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 01:55 PM
Oct 2025

Its like the team you are opposing has first and goal on your two yard line and you are calling a 60 yard pass play when you don't even have the ball. Your suggestion is not in the real world.

Do you realize how many ads they would run on TV and what kinds of lies they would tell if we tried your suggestion? You'd be giving them a great chance to get rid of Obamacare too.

MichMan

(16,666 posts)
15. The ones that couldn't be persuaded to vote for permanent ACA subsidies in 2021 & insisted they be temporary?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 02:09 PM
Oct 2025
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