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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSure as shit Trump has put into motion a decree that any protester against trump or trump policy will be labeled
"antifa" and have their life ruined or worse.
This is it folks.
MacKasey
(1,495 posts)NCDem47
(3,335 posts)With or without Epstein revelations.
Brother Buzz
(39,604 posts)One could make the argument we are there NOW!
sop
(17,539 posts)tetedur
(1,408 posts)Yep they sure have. And they won the last World War.
Antifa is the source of all evil in the world. They are going to go after the money that supports the organization. Trump says he may have had dinner with some that have supported them. Antifa is embedded with the homeless. Antifa infiltrated the J6ers. Antifa are insurrectionists. They are as bad as Hamas, Hezbollah, MS13, Tren de Aragua. The police, the politicians and the media are covering up what is going on. 10 "journalists" on Trump roundtable just said they have infiltrated the organization and they have the proof that they are highly organized and hell bent on destroying the US.
So get ready. They are coming.
thomski64
(844 posts)DWIGHT D EISENHOWER
tetedur
(1,408 posts)WarGamer
(18,256 posts)Words have definitions.
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travelingthrulife
(4,472 posts)999th gun massacre.
Antifa in America is ant-fascist and I believe you know that.
BannonsLiver
(20,286 posts)Thats a great comparison. Someone who would torpedo a discussion about Sandy Hook or the like by quibbling over the caliber of the gun and other who gives a fuck minutiae.
BannonsLiver
(20,286 posts)Thats some of your best work since and Mars smiled.
dpibel
(3,795 posts)Really?
Trump & Co. believe that Portland is under siege by German commies?
That is an interesting proposition!
On edit: The Antifa co-founder's girlfriend that Kristi Noem's crew arrested must be really, really old.
WarGamer
(18,256 posts)You will quickly tell me I'm wrong... and BL will say something mean to me...
But Antifa, AKA Antifaschistische Aktion in 2025 is most similar to Neo-Nazis and historical Nazis.
You see... both are modern day movements deriving inspiration and using symbols of past organizations.
Modern day ANTIFA didn't received marching orders from Russia or the German Communist Party (KPD) but they carry the same flag and chant the same slogans and share a similar ideology.
Modern day Neo-Nazis don't have NSDAP membership numbers dated pre-1945, don't receive orders from Himmler or Hitler but show the same iconography and repeat some of the same slogans and beliefs...
That's just history, not an opinion or anything.
dpibel
(3,795 posts)You are claiming that, when Trump and his pals say "Antifa," this is to whom they refer?
You really want to go with that?
And, again: Kristi Noem captured the GF of the founder of Antifa. That's not my opinion, that's her claim. You are saying that Antifa has always meant, and continues to mean, one thing and one thing only. If that is the case, Kristi Nacht has arrested a terribly superannuated person, no?
WarGamer
(18,256 posts)But I don't like memes suggesting that US GI's and FDR were literally antifa.
dpibel
(3,795 posts)You seem to believe that words have one meaning, fixed forever.
I'm not quite sure that's the way language works.
I'm pretty convinced that the current vernacular treats the term "antifa" as meaning "anti-fascist."
You can be sad as ever you want that this term once meant "commie moofoo bad bad people."
But if it actually doesn't mean that anymore, I think you are clobbering a deceased equine, and doing it to no particularly good effect.
Obviously, as is almost always the case, your mileage varies very much.
One. More. Time.
If the people who are currently using the word, on both sides, do not mean it to mean what you insist it means, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that you, not they, are the party out of step.
WarGamer
(18,256 posts)Antifa carry the banner of AA.
That's a choice.
Portland?
Seattle?
Chicago?
Your graphics tend to be auf Deutsch, which makes me wonder if you're actually talking about the US of A.
Can you show me some pictures of that banner here where we're talking about?
I think your angels are in danger of falling off their pinheads.
WarGamer
(18,256 posts)This is the logo for Rose City Antifa, Portland OR

These pics from Portland OR
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Kingofalldems
(40,056 posts)WarGamer
(18,256 posts)dpibel
(3,795 posts)Congratulations!
That's a lot of posts!
Kingofalldems
(40,056 posts)Chemical Bill
(3,063 posts)It's ok with me that people in other countries were against fascism before I was born. Just sayin'....
Moostache
(10,997 posts)1) Fuck you.
2) Fuck you again, this time with no lube and a borrowed, rusty garden hoe.
3) I HATE you and NOTHING will ever change that.
4) Fuck you once again, this time with a dildo soaked in Tabasco sauce and Rubbing Alcohol
5) Anitfa is a state of mind NOT an organization.
6) My "life" having to abide this man's continued contamination of the planet is already ruined...threatening to make worse the intolerable is in and of itself nonsense.
7) Fuck you one last time bitch boy, and the couch your VP is soiling in the corner...
EAT SHIT TRUMP, hopefully get septic and die from it too!
Tree Lady
(13,023 posts)Fuck this country letting him get away with this shit.
lindysalsagal
(22,823 posts)We've all heard the bully threaten us for over 10 years. Old news.
spanone
(141,060 posts)Label magats as NAZIS

enid602
(9,619 posts)Antifa is the new Hamas.
AntiFascist
(13,732 posts)so, I say spell it out and make it crystal clear that we will not tolerate fascism, in the same way that we turned against fascism in WWII.
Martin Eden
(15,380 posts)(pro-fascist)
WestMichRad
(2,947 posts)Martin Eden
(15,380 posts)It just needs to be said out loud, and recognized by everyone.
Ms. Toad
(38,322 posts)I'm not familiar with any "decree" a president can issue which has any legal effect.
Jack Valentino
(4,422 posts)I think he gave us the news in the middle of one of his
'Lies Social' 40-some post after midnight
A.I. Trump-bot rants....
Klarkashton
(4,760 posts)Like the flag burning shit it's all being don but decree.
Ms. Toad
(38,322 posts)He is signing Executive orders (which have legal effect to the extent they direct executive branch agencies or interpret existing law), and writing internal memos - wildly outrageous, but no legal effect other than creating a basis to fire executive branch employees who don't comply.
The flag burning was (1) a speech (followed by a bunch more speeches/texts/etc.) and (2) an executive order. No decree involved.
(1) The speech was nonsense - and bore no relationship to the executive order.
(2) The executive order directed the department of justice to enforce any law, on any matter, which was violated by burning a flag. For example - Federal marijuana laws are not currently being enforced. But if you use an American flag to light one - guess what - now they are going to go after you for consuming marijuana, because you did so by burning a flag to light it. If you burn an American flag in violation of a no-open-burning ordinance - guess what - now they are going to charge you with burning in a no-burn area.
Trump has no idea what he signed. He has been yammering (that speech thing) about imposing a one year prison sentence for flag burning, but the EO said zero about a new law, and zero about a prison sentence. In fact, it expressly excluded prosecution for burning the flag as speech so long as it did not violate other laws.
Ms. Toad
(38,322 posts)He is signing Executive orders (which have legal effect to the extent they direct executive branch agencies or interpret existing law), and writing internal memos - wildly outrageous, but no legal effect other than creating a basis to fire executive branch employees who don't comply.
The flag burning was (1) a speech (followed by a bunch more speeches/texts/etc.) and (2) an executive order. No decree involved.
(1) The speech was nonsense - and bore no relationship to the executive order.
(2) The executive order directed the department of justice to enforce any law, on any matter, which was violated by burning a flag. For example - Federal marijuana laws are not currently being enforced. But if you use an American flag to light one - guess what - now they are going to go after you for consuming marijuana, because you did so by burning a flag to light it. If you burn an American flag in violation of a no-open-burning ordinance - guess what - now they are going to charge you with burning in a no-burn area.
Trump has no idea what he signed. He has been yammering (that speech thing) about imposing a one year prison sentence for flag burning, but the EO said zero about a new law, and zero about a prison sentence. In fact, it expressly excluded prosecution for burning the flag as speech so long as it did not violate other laws.
Jack Valentino
(4,422 posts)MerryBlooms
(12,161 posts)Come all, come bare! It's a war zone!
There in spirit from southern Oregon! Ride On!!
Xavier Breath
(6,486 posts)MerryBlooms
(12,161 posts)RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,874 posts)iemanja
(57,430 posts)Have you heard of liberation theology?
iemanja
(57,430 posts)tavernier
(14,288 posts)will be required to add their names to the sign up sheet that ICE will be handing out?
Ok. Ill be sure to bring along a sharpened pencil.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,261 posts)GOP leaders appear so concerned about a scheduled protest that they're falsely labeling a No Kings gathering as a hate-America rally.
The more Republican rhetoric about No Kings events turns hysterical, the easier it is to believe that the party is increasingly worried about the growing public backlash to the GOP agenda. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-13T15:48:52.307Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/ahead-no-kings-events-republicans-anti-protest-rhetoric-takes-ugly-tur-rcna237271
But when it comes to GOP attitudes related to Americans and their right to public dissent, the problem isnt limited to the man in the Oval Office. Politico reported late last week:
Speaker Mike Johnson on Friday slammed the No Kings protest march scheduled to take place at the National Mall [on Oct. 18], describing the planned protest as the hate America rally that would draw the pro-Hamas wing and the antifa people. His characterizations, however, drew condemnation from some Democrats who defended the protest movement, whose first big demonstration was overwhelmingly peaceful.
Hours after the Louisiana Republican made those comments on Fox News, he doubled down on the rhetoric during comments to reporters on Capitol Hill, referring to No Kings gathering as a hate-America rally.
Johnson had plenty of company. House Majority Whip Tom Emmer on Friday also told reporters that the scheduled protest should be seen as a hate-America rally, adding that the gathering is being championed by the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party......
Last month, Trump designated antifa as a major terrorist organization, notwithstanding the fact there is no such organization, and we soon after discussed an unsettling dynamic: If the White House says that antifa members are terrorists, and the White House says it will decide on its own who and what qualifies as antifa affiliates, this can get very scary, very quickly.
Weeks later, GOP leaders started telling Americans that a peaceful demonstration by Americans will draw the antifa people, and that the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party is involved in the gathering.
There have already been too many recent instances in which those in positions of power have tried to stifle dissent. Theres no reason to believe, however, that things wont get worse.