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Klarkashton

(4,760 posts)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:16 PM Oct 2025

Sure as shit Trump has put into motion a decree that any protester against trump or trump policy will be labeled

"antifa" and have their life ruined or worse.

This is it folks.

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Sure as shit Trump has put into motion a decree that any protester against trump or trump policy will be labeled (Original Post) Klarkashton Oct 2025 OP
So he is admitting he is a fascist. MacKasey Oct 2025 #1
No doubt that is where we are headed. NCDem47 Oct 2025 #3
Headed? Brother Buzz Oct 2025 #38
That would be the inescapable conclusion. sop Oct 2025 #10
Jack with Turning Point USA, (didn't catch his last name), says the insidious Antifa has been around for 100 years. tetedur Oct 2025 #2
Big time antifascist thomski64 Oct 2025 #4
Weird how the Republican party used to be anti-fascist a long time ago. tetedur Oct 2025 #6
Actually Antifaschistische Aktion was formed in 1932 by the Communist Party of Germany with support of Stalin. WarGamer Oct 2025 #14
Just like the gun humpers coming along to split hairs about types of guns after our travelingthrulife Oct 2025 #16
Well BannonsLiver Oct 2025 #25
"Words have definitions" BannonsLiver Oct 2025 #24
This is who Trump, et al., are referring to? dpibel Oct 2025 #26
See... here's the deal. WarGamer Oct 2025 #27
Once again dpibel Oct 2025 #30
they're idiots... historically illiterate. WarGamer Oct 2025 #33
What is the current meaning of the term? dpibel Oct 2025 #39
I would agree with you BUT WarGamer Oct 2025 #40
Where? dpibel Oct 2025 #42
Glad you asked. WarGamer Oct 2025 #46
Right on time. Kingofalldems Oct 2025 #36
What's your opinion on the topic? WarGamer Oct 2025 #41
EIGHTEEN THOUSAND!!! dpibel Oct 2025 #43
I love Antifa even though it has no official members. Kingofalldems Oct 2025 #45
I am not threatened by history. Chemical Bill Oct 2025 #44
I have news for Trump... Moostache Oct 2025 #5
This makes me want to protest even more Tree Lady Oct 2025 #7
We're holding a No Kings protest. Does he believe that's against him?? lindysalsagal Oct 2025 #8
FuckTrmp.... spanone Oct 2025 #9
Antifa enid602 Oct 2025 #11
Most of the idiotic followers of Trump don't understand what "antifa" is an abbreviation for... AntiFascist Oct 2025 #12
Is it ok to be "profa"? Martin Eden Oct 2025 #13
Isn't that what MAGA is? WestMichRad Oct 2025 #15
YES Martin Eden Oct 2025 #18
Decree? Ms. Toad Oct 2025 #17
Trump is King of America now. Perhaps you missed it? Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #20
That's essentially all.he is doing these days. Klarkashton Oct 2025 #21
No. He is making speeches (no legal effect) Ms. Toad Oct 2025 #22
No. He is making speeches (no legal effect) Ms. Toad Oct 2025 #23
Trump is right but he doesn't know it. All of us protesters are definitely "ANTI-FASCIST" !!! Jack Valentino Oct 2025 #19
Emergency naked bike ride protest in Portland this Sunday! MerryBlooms Oct 2025 #28
I will be in my home in SW Ohio Sunday, but I promise to shower naked in silent solidarity. Xavier Breath Oct 2025 #31
All bluster. No law backs this bs, like so many of his decrees MerryBlooms Oct 2025 #29
As a Protestant, Trump is a protester. If he doesn't like protestation, perhaps he should embrace Catholicism. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Oct 2025 #32
What? iemanja Oct 2025 #35
The Portland Unicorn will top the list. iemanja Oct 2025 #34
So the millions that will be out protesting on October 18 tavernier Oct 2025 #37
MaddowBlog-Ahead of No Kings events, Republicans' anti-protest rhetoric takes an ugly turn LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #47

tetedur

(1,408 posts)
2. Jack with Turning Point USA, (didn't catch his last name), says the insidious Antifa has been around for 100 years.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:22 PM
Oct 2025

Yep they sure have. And they won the last World War.

Antifa is the source of all evil in the world. They are going to go after the money that supports the organization. Trump says he may have had dinner with some that have supported them. Antifa is embedded with the homeless. Antifa infiltrated the J6ers. Antifa are insurrectionists. They are as bad as Hamas, Hezbollah, MS13, Tren de Aragua. The police, the politicians and the media are covering up what is going on. 10 "journalists" on Trump roundtable just said they have infiltrated the organization and they have the proof that they are highly organized and hell bent on destroying the US.

So get ready. They are coming.

WarGamer

(18,256 posts)
14. Actually Antifaschistische Aktion was formed in 1932 by the Communist Party of Germany with support of Stalin.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:46 PM
Oct 2025

Words have definitions.



travelingthrulife

(4,472 posts)
16. Just like the gun humpers coming along to split hairs about types of guns after our
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 07:54 PM
Oct 2025

999th gun massacre.

Antifa in America is ant-fascist and I believe you know that.

BannonsLiver

(20,286 posts)
25. Well
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 05:39 PM
Oct 2025

That’s a great comparison. Someone who would torpedo a discussion about Sandy Hook or the like by quibbling over the caliber of the gun and other “who gives a fuck” minutiae.

dpibel

(3,795 posts)
26. This is who Trump, et al., are referring to?
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 06:47 PM
Oct 2025

Really?

Trump & Co. believe that Portland is under siege by German commies?

That is an interesting proposition!

On edit: The Antifa co-founder's girlfriend that Kristi Noem's crew arrested must be really, really old.

WarGamer

(18,256 posts)
27. See... here's the deal.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 06:52 PM
Oct 2025

You will quickly tell me I'm wrong... and BL will say something mean to me...

But Antifa, AKA Antifaschistische Aktion in 2025 is most similar to Neo-Nazis and historical Nazis.

You see... both are modern day movements deriving inspiration and using symbols of past organizations.

Modern day ANTIFA didn't received marching orders from Russia or the German Communist Party (KPD) but they carry the same flag and chant the same slogans and share a similar ideology.

Modern day Neo-Nazis don't have NSDAP membership numbers dated pre-1945, don't receive orders from Himmler or Hitler but show the same iconography and repeat some of the same slogans and beliefs...

That's just history, not an opinion or anything.

dpibel

(3,795 posts)
30. Once again
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 07:11 PM
Oct 2025

You are claiming that, when Trump and his pals say "Antifa," this is to whom they refer?

You really want to go with that?

And, again: Kristi Noem captured the GF of the founder of Antifa. That's not my opinion, that's her claim. You are saying that Antifa has always meant, and continues to mean, one thing and one thing only. If that is the case, Kristi Nacht has arrested a terribly superannuated person, no?

WarGamer

(18,256 posts)
33. they're idiots... historically illiterate.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:04 PM
Oct 2025

But I don't like memes suggesting that US GI's and FDR were literally antifa.

dpibel

(3,795 posts)
39. What is the current meaning of the term?
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:19 PM
Oct 2025

You seem to believe that words have one meaning, fixed forever.

I'm not quite sure that's the way language works.

I'm pretty convinced that the current vernacular treats the term "antifa" as meaning "anti-fascist."

You can be sad as ever you want that this term once meant "commie moofoo bad bad people."

But if it actually doesn't mean that anymore, I think you are clobbering a deceased equine, and doing it to no particularly good effect.

Obviously, as is almost always the case, your mileage varies very much.

One. More. Time.

If the people who are currently using the word, on both sides, do not mean it to mean what you insist it means, it is entirely within the realm of possibility that you, not they, are the party out of step.

dpibel

(3,795 posts)
42. Where?
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 12:01 AM
Oct 2025

Portland?

Seattle?

Chicago?

Your graphics tend to be auf Deutsch, which makes me wonder if you're actually talking about the US of A.

Can you show me some pictures of that banner here where we're talking about?

I think your angels are in danger of falling off their pinheads.

WarGamer

(18,256 posts)
46. Glad you asked.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 06:38 PM
Oct 2025

This is the logo for Rose City Antifa, Portland OR



These pics from Portland OR







Chemical Bill

(3,063 posts)
44. I am not threatened by history.
Fri Oct 10, 2025, 06:18 AM
Oct 2025

It's ok with me that people in other countries were against fascism before I was born. Just sayin'....

Moostache

(10,997 posts)
5. I have news for Trump...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:34 PM
Oct 2025

1) Fuck you.
2) Fuck you again, this time with no lube and a borrowed, rusty garden hoe.
3) I HATE you and NOTHING will ever change that.
4) Fuck you once again, this time with a dildo soaked in Tabasco sauce and Rubbing Alcohol
5) Anitfa is a state of mind NOT an organization.
6) My "life" having to abide this man's continued contamination of the planet is already ruined...threatening to make worse the intolerable is in and of itself nonsense.
7) Fuck you one last time bitch boy, and the couch your VP is soiling in the corner...

EAT SHIT TRUMP, hopefully get septic and die from it too!

Tree Lady

(13,023 posts)
7. This makes me want to protest even more
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:36 PM
Oct 2025

Fuck this country letting him get away with this shit.

lindysalsagal

(22,823 posts)
8. We're holding a No Kings protest. Does he believe that's against him??
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 05:37 PM
Oct 2025

We've all heard the bully threaten us for over 10 years. Old news.

AntiFascist

(13,732 posts)
12. Most of the idiotic followers of Trump don't understand what "antifa" is an abbreviation for...
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 06:40 PM
Oct 2025

so, I say spell it out and make it crystal clear that we will not tolerate fascism, in the same way that we turned against fascism in WWII.

Ms. Toad

(38,322 posts)
17. Decree?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:09 PM
Oct 2025

I'm not familiar with any "decree" a president can issue which has any legal effect.

Jack Valentino

(4,422 posts)
20. Trump is King of America now. Perhaps you missed it?
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 08:53 PM
Oct 2025

I think he gave us the news in the middle of one of his
'Lies Social' 40-some post after midnight
A.I. Trump-bot rants....


Klarkashton

(4,760 posts)
21. That's essentially all.he is doing these days.
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:15 PM
Oct 2025

Like the flag burning shit it's all being don but decree.

Ms. Toad

(38,322 posts)
22. No. He is making speeches (no legal effect)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:30 PM
Oct 2025

He is signing Executive orders (which have legal effect to the extent they direct executive branch agencies or interpret existing law), and writing internal memos - wildly outrageous, but no legal effect other than creating a basis to fire executive branch employees who don't comply.

The flag burning was (1) a speech (followed by a bunch more speeches/texts/etc.) and (2) an executive order. No decree involved.

(1) The speech was nonsense - and bore no relationship to the executive order.
(2) The executive order directed the department of justice to enforce any law, on any matter, which was violated by burning a flag. For example - Federal marijuana laws are not currently being enforced. But if you use an American flag to light one - guess what - now they are going to go after you for consuming marijuana, because you did so by burning a flag to light it. If you burn an American flag in violation of a no-open-burning ordinance - guess what - now they are going to charge you with burning in a no-burn area.

Trump has no idea what he signed. He has been yammering (that speech thing) about imposing a one year prison sentence for flag burning, but the EO said zero about a new law, and zero about a prison sentence. In fact, it expressly excluded prosecution for burning the flag as speech so long as it did not violate other laws.

Ms. Toad

(38,322 posts)
23. No. He is making speeches (no legal effect)
Wed Oct 8, 2025, 09:30 PM
Oct 2025

He is signing Executive orders (which have legal effect to the extent they direct executive branch agencies or interpret existing law), and writing internal memos - wildly outrageous, but no legal effect other than creating a basis to fire executive branch employees who don't comply.

The flag burning was (1) a speech (followed by a bunch more speeches/texts/etc.) and (2) an executive order. No decree involved.

(1) The speech was nonsense - and bore no relationship to the executive order.
(2) The executive order directed the department of justice to enforce any law, on any matter, which was violated by burning a flag. For example - Federal marijuana laws are not currently being enforced. But if you use an American flag to light one - guess what - now they are going to go after you for consuming marijuana, because you did so by burning a flag to light it. If you burn an American flag in violation of a no-open-burning ordinance - guess what - now they are going to charge you with burning in a no-burn area.

Trump has no idea what he signed. He has been yammering (that speech thing) about imposing a one year prison sentence for flag burning, but the EO said zero about a new law, and zero about a prison sentence. In fact, it expressly excluded prosecution for burning the flag as speech so long as it did not violate other laws.

MerryBlooms

(12,161 posts)
28. Emergency naked bike ride protest in Portland this Sunday!
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 06:54 PM
Oct 2025

Come all, come bare! It's a war zone!
There in spirit from southern Oregon! Ride On!!

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,874 posts)
32. As a Protestant, Trump is a protester. If he doesn't like protestation, perhaps he should embrace Catholicism.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 07:44 PM
Oct 2025

tavernier

(14,288 posts)
37. So the millions that will be out protesting on October 18
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:13 PM
Oct 2025

will be required to add their names to the sign up sheet that ICE will be handing out?



Ok. I’ll be sure to bring along a sharpened pencil.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,261 posts)
47. MaddowBlog-Ahead of No Kings events, Republicans' anti-protest rhetoric takes an ugly turn
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 06:34 PM
Oct 2025

GOP leaders appear so concerned about a scheduled protest that they're falsely labeling a No Kings gathering as a “hate-America rally.”

The more Republican rhetoric about No Kings events turns hysterical, the easier it is to believe that the party is increasingly worried about the growing public backlash to the GOP agenda. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-13T15:48:52.307Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/ahead-no-kings-events-republicans-anti-protest-rhetoric-takes-ugly-tur-rcna237271

Donald Trump’s approach to peaceful American protesters has long reflected a president uncomfortable with dissent. Indeed, the Republican has spent years trying to delegitimize dissenters, urging the public to see his detractors as “paid protesters,” as if his opponents are inherently inauthentic.......

But when it comes to GOP attitudes related to Americans and their right to public dissent, the problem isn’t limited to the man in the Oval Office. Politico reported late last week:

Speaker Mike Johnson on Friday slammed the No Kings protest march scheduled to take place at the National Mall [on Oct. 18], describing the planned protest as the ‘hate America rally’ that would draw ‘the pro-Hamas wing’ and ‘the antifa people.’ His characterizations, however, drew condemnation from some Democrats who defended the protest movement, whose first big demonstration was overwhelmingly peaceful.


Hours after the Louisiana Republican made those comments on Fox News, he doubled down on the rhetoric during comments to reporters on Capitol Hill, referring to No Kings gathering as a “hate-America rally.”

Johnson had plenty of company. House Majority Whip Tom Emmer on Friday also told reporters that the scheduled protest should be seen as a “hate-America rally,” adding that the gathering is being championed by “the terrorist wing” of the Democratic Party......

Last month, Trump designated antifa as a “major terrorist organization,” notwithstanding the fact there is no such organization, and we soon after discussed an unsettling dynamic: If the White House says that antifa members are terrorists, and the White House says it will decide on its own who and what qualifies as “antifa” affiliates, this can get very scary, very quickly.

Weeks later, GOP leaders started telling Americans that a peaceful demonstration by Americans will draw “the antifa people,” and that “the terrorist wing” of the Democratic Party is involved in the gathering.

There have already been too many recent instances in which those in positions of power have tried to stifle dissent. There’s no reason to believe, however, that things won’t get worse.
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