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JohnnyRingo

(20,531 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:54 AM Oct 2025

Maybe Antifa should rebrand and use their proper name.

I hear Karoline Leavitt and others throw around the name Antifa like they're Contra rebels or Sandinistas. Most people don't know what their cause is, just that they're fighting the government and said to be violent. They're freely associating Antifa as a hate group attacking innocent public servants.

It would be altogether different if republicans had to cry that the Anti Fascists have taken over the democratic party. Make them wear their swastikas openly.


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Maybe Antifa should rebrand and use their proper name. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Oct 2025 OP
i am antifa ret5hd Oct 2025 #1
Indeed, and I am Anti-Fascist. JohnnyRingo Oct 2025 #9
Post removed Post removed Oct 2025 #10
Interesting assertions. Torchlight Oct 2025 #11
Yes. There are anti-fascists and there are pro-fascists. We are on the correct side. surfered Oct 2025 #2
The problem is that "Antifa" doesn't exist as an organization at all. Ocelot II Oct 2025 #3
Post removed Post removed Oct 2025 #14
Enjoy your brief stay. Ocelot II Oct 2025 #15
So brief EYESORE 9001 Oct 2025 #16
Post removed Post removed Oct 2025 #17
But the way Trump Inc is playing this will allow them to arrest anyone who disagrees with them just by applying that LT Barclay Oct 2025 #22
We Are All Antifa Now! MineralMan Oct 2025 #4
I've just started calling the GOP ProFa mdbl Oct 2025 #5
Yep. At one point, I came across an online meme... keep_left Oct 2025 #13
Or come out of the shadows and become a religious organization bucolic_frolic Oct 2025 #6
I am antifa nt mr715 Oct 2025 #7
Completely agree. It was a branding mistake. From now on it should be Anti-Fascists. sop Oct 2025 #8
Dump the Ninja costumes too gulliver Oct 2025 #12
I agree, it's literally "anti-fascist" & we should embrace that term! CaptainTruth Oct 2025 #18
Insurrection gfarber Oct 2025 #19
Agree. The stupids need to learn what antifa means and where it came from. ancianita Oct 2025 #20
The correct name for Antifa is Patriot. hay rick Oct 2025 #21
I am Antifa! Be The Light Oct 2025 #23
Most magaloons don't even know what fascism is let along the three branches of the US government kimbutgar Oct 2025 #24
I have just one question, who is the head of antifa? ashredux Oct 2025 #25
Unfortunately, that doesn't stop them from demonizing the movement. JohnnyRingo Oct 2025 #31
The right-wing has always preferred "antifa" over "anti-fascist" Mike Niendorff Oct 2025 #26
zero benefit to using the word antifa. It sounds stupid, foreign, and has to be explained. thebigidea Oct 2025 #27
How the fuck does Dump think he can redefine Antifa? Blue Owl Oct 2025 #28
Great cartoon LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #29
things really turned around when we... ret5hd Oct 2025 #30

JohnnyRingo

(20,531 posts)
9. Indeed, and I am Anti-Fascist.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:44 AM
Oct 2025

I just think the latter has more impact in the press.
I don't assume average people know the cause of the Antifa movement any more than what the Boogie Man does and republicans are defining it to suit themselves. They publicly claim it's a dangerous group bent on violence and destruction just because we don't like Trump.

Perhaps instead of a rebrand, the movement could clarify the cause so even my 90 year old mother in law will understand and not fear that Antifa will snatch her off the street or burn her house down. Republicans are painting that picture every day.

Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #9)

Ocelot II

(129,223 posts)
3. The problem is that "Antifa" doesn't exist as an organization at all.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:03 AM
Oct 2025

It's a movement or philosophy. You're not a member of Antifa if you ascribe to the ideas underlying the movement because there's no group to be a member of. It can't be a hate group or a terrorist group because it's not even a group, which is why it's so stupid for the Trump regime to try to classify it as a terrorist organization. Since Antifa is a movement and not an organization, it doesn't have a chairperson or a board of directors or a marketing committee or anybody else who can "rebrand" it. The whole controversy is just dumb.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #3)

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #15)

LT Barclay

(3,173 posts)
22. But the way Trump Inc is playing this will allow them to arrest anyone who disagrees with them just by applying that
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:28 PM
Oct 2025

label.
I’m disgusted that so many people are willing to go along with this crap.
I largely blame the military on this one. The entire time I was in the USCG they required what they called “civil rights training”. Sadly it was entirely about the members personal rights and was required annually. Constitution training was one time. Completely inverted for a law enforcement agency. I put that in my review every year. So most of those Fox News fed armed idiots in the National Guard have no idea they are doing something wrong. The ones who do are scared to speak up.

keep_left

(3,163 posts)
13. Yep. At one point, I came across an online meme...
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:06 AM
Oct 2025

..."anti-Antifa" = "Fa". That about sums it up, I think. (Wish I could find it now so I could post it here).

sop

(17,531 posts)
8. Completely agree. It was a branding mistake. From now on it should be Anti-Fascists.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:40 AM
Oct 2025

Someone should create an Americans Against Fascism website and organization.

gulliver

(13,728 posts)
12. Dump the Ninja costumes too
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:59 AM
Oct 2025

You put on a Ninja suit and call yourself an "anti-fascist," et voila, you're a hero! It's just silly, not to mention it looks demented and self-indulgent.

Let's try Judo. Imo, more of our Dem leaders should come out "against" so-called Antifa. Then, we look for the organization under everyone's bed and announce we've scared them off.

gfarber

(207 posts)
19. Insurrection
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:06 PM
Oct 2025


There once was a White House display,
Where a war on the vague was conveyed.
“If you’re not MAGA,” they cried,
“From your rights we’ll divide”—
And they framed every shadow as “traitor-made.”

They rallied some pundits to show
Tales of chaos (live on a row).
“You’re a cartel!” they’d say,
“For your funds we will pay” —
Though the thing they described had no flow.

They called it a terror with no head,
An anti-fascist ghost, it was said.
“No leader to name,
No office to blame,”
Yet the threats kept on growing instead.

“Like GWOT,” some voices would sigh,
A blanket attack from the sky.
No battlefield clear,
Just a broadened sphere—
Where suspicion could easily fly.

An attorney talked of a plan brick-by-brick,
To dismantle a phantom real quick.
“So drone if we must,
And film for the trust,”
As if justice and ratings could click.

They waved “insurrection” like a key,
Unlocking powers they claim to foresee.
A pretext, a script,
A democracy slipped—
As the law bowed to theater on sixtieth degree.

“Create chaos, confuse and inflame,”
Was the playbook some critics would name.
Cloud the crowd with a gas,
Label protestors as mass—
Then call out the soldiers to tame.

If the future looks late and austere,
And the path forward fogged by fear,
We have tools that are bright:
The ballot, the light,
And a chorus that’s steadfast and clear.

So ask now — what can we do if it’s grim?
Stand together: organize, vote, and sing.
Nonviolent and bold,
Hold leaders to hold—
Keep the remainder of liberty prim.

kimbutgar

(26,867 posts)
24. Most magaloons don't even know what fascism is let along the three branches of the US government
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:36 PM
Oct 2025

They are brainwashed into thinking that anti fascists is a bad thing but its really people who are against fascism and don't want a democracy anymore but a dictatorship. I’d love to ask a magaloon if they are ok with a dictatorship instead of democracy by the people. Most of them didn’t pay attention in US history class in high school. And the ones who know the difference like the rule of the orange turd and billionaires controlling our country !

ashredux

(2,879 posts)
25. I have just one question, who is the head of antifa?
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 12:39 PM
Oct 2025

They keep talking about antifa, making it a terrorist organization status, but who the hell is running “antifa”

It isn’t an organization at all. There’s no supreme leader, there is no lieutenants, it’s just a name some guys used on the Internet to get a crowd together back during the protest of the murder of Floyd.

JohnnyRingo

(20,531 posts)
31. Unfortunately, that doesn't stop them from demonizing the movement.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 09:14 PM
Oct 2025

It might be worse that the group doesn't have structure. When there's violence at a protest they can strike back at any protestor they see as Antifa... once they convince the public that Antifa is a terrorist group.

Kind of like how narco terrorists are being attacked and sunk in the Caribbean. Just to protect us.

Mike Niendorff

(3,641 posts)
26. The right-wing has always preferred "antifa" over "anti-fascist"
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:14 PM
Oct 2025

For obvious reasons.

So yeah, I always go with "anti-fascist".

Clarity matters, and it shines a light on the fact that "pro-fascist" is the other side of this -- also known simply as "fascist".


MDN

thebigidea

(13,559 posts)
27. zero benefit to using the word antifa. It sounds stupid, foreign, and has to be explained.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:19 PM
Oct 2025

When you're explaining, you're losing. Republicans like using the word antifa BECAUSE it sounds stupid, foreign, and puts Dems on the defensive.

I'm a Democrat. I don't need to use the word "antifa," it has no relevance to me or my family. Both sides escaped or fought Nazis and fascists. They didn't use the word either.

I'd rather make the word REPUBLICAN sound as ugly as they are.

Blue Owl

(58,205 posts)
28. How the fuck does Dump think he can redefine Antifa?
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:52 PM
Oct 2025

Maybe his moron minority clump of MAGA idiots will buy it, but not anyone else….

ret5hd

(22,221 posts)
30. things really turned around when we...
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 05:11 PM
Oct 2025

switched from using “liberal” to “progressive”

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