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gab13by13

(31,259 posts)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:43 AM Oct 2025

Not A Doctor But It's About Krasnov Falling Asleep During The Day

Yeah it could be he doesn't get enough sleep at night, could be he takes a lot of drugs, but it could be something else.

The White House is saying he has the condition where the veins in his legs don't pump enough blood back to the heart.
I know from having "had" A-fib that my doctors ask about my drowsing off during the day, but that was because my heart was double/triple pumping and it got worn out. Once I had my ablation my ejection % jumped back up to normal, no more falling asleep during the day.

Wondering, asking, if Krasnov could be going to Walter Reed for an Echocardiogram to check his ejection% and other heart related issues?

I just bring this up because I was asked about my falling asleep in relation to my heart.

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Not A Doctor But It's About Krasnov Falling Asleep During The Day (Original Post) gab13by13 Oct 2025 OP
Hard to say, but I hope it's nothing minor. Ocelot II Oct 2025 #1
Degenerate Donnie will swan out of the hospital agingdem Oct 2025 #12
Let's hope he has all the "medical" experts on his care team Jerry2144 Oct 2025 #22
Wouldn't rule something like that out, but there are soooo many reasons one might nod off during the day unblock Oct 2025 #2
Retired cardiology nurse here Jilly_in_VA Oct 2025 #3
I had a cardiologist who let me go a year out of rhythm. I was riding my bike 10 miles in 90 degree heat. gab13by13 Oct 2025 #6
Retired Intensive care nurse here MuseRider Oct 2025 #8
He's already been taking Adderall. ananda Oct 2025 #13
Co-inky-dink BaronChocula Oct 2025 #19
Actually no. MuseRider Oct 2025 #34
Love this BaronChocula Oct 2025 #35
Can we please see results from a stress test. multigraincracker Oct 2025 #14
Question Would stents for DVT require general anesthesia? Jersey Devil Oct 2025 #17
Probably not Jilly_in_VA Oct 2025 #24
I couldn't even imagine him cooperating BaronChocula Oct 2025 #20
On the other hand... Totally Tunsie Oct 2025 #4
The only times he is animated when speaking publicly are when he is... 3catwoman3 Oct 2025 #30
Probably a host of things... Happy Hoosier Oct 2025 #5
He strikes me as a fat fuck who carb-loads at lunch. maxsolomon Oct 2025 #7
Don't forget all the Diet Cokes Blue Owl Oct 2025 #9
Congestive Heart Failure (CHF) Metaphorical Oct 2025 #10
Just a minor tune up. usonian Oct 2025 #11
"IT'S...IT'S UNDEAD!" alterfurz Oct 2025 #31
Maybe Transylvanian Lullaby puts him to sleep. usonian Oct 2025 #32
Maybe he'll just fucking die Orrex Oct 2025 #15
I look forward each morning to your hopeful texts. NNadir Oct 2025 #16
He has a heart? Nictuku Oct 2025 #18
Clearly damaged BaronChocula Oct 2025 #21
A couple observations from 2 diff experiences proud patriot Oct 2025 #23
I pray it's something serious. bif Oct 2025 #25
Yes he could be doing uppers all night. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #26
Congrats on your ablation success! Beartracks Oct 2025 #27
He's notoriously up all night. RandySF Oct 2025 #28
trump is NOT well and is having his second annual physical in six months LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2025 #29
Poll (not). heart attack or stroke? Or both? usonian Oct 2025 #33

agingdem

(8,769 posts)
12. Degenerate Donnie will swan out of the hospital
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:41 AM
Oct 2025

with Dr. Feelgood Ronny Jackson who will pronounce (p)Resident Evil the healthiest 79 year old ever...

and Jake Tapper will say something nauseating about Joe Biden...count on it...



unblock

(55,932 posts)
2. Wouldn't rule something like that out, but there are soooo many reasons one might nod off during the day
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:51 AM
Oct 2025

Including anything that interferes with proper sleep.

About a year ago I somehow mangled my ankle, and that was enough to wake me up several times each night, so I had trouble staying awake during the day.

So in and of itself at least, it's just too non-specific a symptom to read much into it. But it's not inconsistent with some heart ailments.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,821 posts)
3. Retired cardiology nurse here
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 10:55 AM
Oct 2025

Just spitballing, but I think Shitler is in end-stage heart failure and won't get anything done about it because he won't relinquish the power of the presidency (which he would have to do if put under general anesthesia) for even a short time. Not even if there's the slightest chance. His personal vanity and lust for power won't allow it. But the signs are all there...the swollen ankles (and God knows what his legs look like!) and face, the doziness, the shortness of breath and inability to walk far, the puffiness in his face and hands, etc. I've seen it way too often in my career. He's probably getting supportive meds but he could drop dead at any time (God willing) and knows it.

gab13by13

(31,259 posts)
6. I had a cardiologist who let me go a year out of rhythm. I was riding my bike 10 miles in 90 degree heat.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:11 AM
Oct 2025

I was tired and dizzy all the time, I go to a rural hospital. When I finally had my yearly appointment the Dr. sent me right to the emergency room, pumped me full of Amiodarone and scheduled a cardioversion for me the next day. My daughter was with me and when she heard the doctor say that the pads on my chest were in the wrong place she called UPMC in Pittsburgh and got me an appointment, by luck, with a doctor who wrote the book on ablations. I had a cryo-ablation 6 years ago and have been fine ever since. My ejection % was down to 30 -35% and now it is back to 55-60%, I am 78 years old. Daughter also got me a new cardiologist in Pittsburgh. Don't get me wrong, there are great doctors at my rural hospital who I would take over any doctor anywhere, I just got a bad one.

MuseRider

(35,132 posts)
8. Retired Intensive care nurse here
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:14 AM
Oct 2025

and I agree.

I also wonder if there might be a little narcolepsy in the mix. I have had narcolepsy for most of my life and he does seem to fill that as well. A little Ritalin should help that however.

ananda

(34,453 posts)
13. He's already been taking Adderall.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:45 AM
Oct 2025

I think he's probably end-stage cardio
along with having Parkinson's dementia.

BaronChocula

(4,042 posts)
19. Co-inky-dink
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:19 PM
Oct 2025

Harriet Tubman was believed to have had narcolepsy. Is that why you chose that avatar?

MuseRider

(35,132 posts)
34. Actually no.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 05:37 PM
Oct 2025

My Kindergarten teacher read a book about her and I was so excited and moved by her. I never forgot her and as I grew older I just thought she was the coolest and bravest woman of them all. I still feel this way. There was a lot of crap going on the years I was little living in Topeka, it just solidified my admiration for her. As I still feel that way I thought she would be a good avatar for me and she is!

I just learned of her narcolepsy. I cannot imagine how she did what she did fighting that monster. All the more reason to celebrate her whenever there is a chance.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,821 posts)
24. Probably not
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 02:19 PM
Oct 2025

I've got one and was just a little buzzed, but he's even too afraid of that. Besides which, he could go sideways at any moment. They make you sign a consent for the stents and it says that it could result in complications including the need for open heart surgery.

BaronChocula

(4,042 posts)
20. I couldn't even imagine him cooperating
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:26 PM
Oct 2025

for an echocardiogram. We know he has a ham-fisted, simplistic approach to everything (separating children from parents with no mechanism to ever reunite them, etc.). Pills and Ozempic are much easier than diagnostic tests and lifestyle change. Like you, I don't think he would allow himself to do anything the right way medically beyond pill-popping and injections.

Totally Tunsie

(11,584 posts)
4. On the other hand...
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:06 AM
Oct 2025

LOL - If there is a medical explanation for it, that'll be embraced by many, including me.

However, I have a different theory: Bozo lacks a good night's sleep, so "Strike 1" from the get-go; but, I think he's also just bored as he listens to others drone on regarding something that isn't about him. He's tired, bored, and impatient to get to the time when HE can begin speaking about himself again. Everything else being said in a presentation has no importance to him so he tunes out and then fades out or just listens for the mention of his name when he can nod in agreement. It's just more of his narcissism showing itself. If it ain't about him, it ain't important!

Either way, he looks like a sleepy, bumbling old fool on the world stage, and that's OK with me.

3catwoman3

(28,608 posts)
30. The only times he is animated when speaking publicly are when he is...
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 04:55 PM
Oct 2025

…ranting on and on about how mistreated and unappreciated he is, or when he is boasting about himself.

No other subjects interest him.

Happy Hoosier

(9,404 posts)
5. Probably a host of things...
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:10 AM
Oct 2025

Obstructive Sleep Apnea.... he's way too vain to use a CPAP.

Heart failure means less oxygen to the brain.

High Blood Pressure can lead to disturbed sleep.

maxsolomon

(38,206 posts)
7. He strikes me as a fat fuck who carb-loads at lunch.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:13 AM
Oct 2025

Doing that (rice, bread) always makes me sleepy during afternoon meetings. Particularly if I slept poorly or not long enough the night before.

We know he sleeps poorly since he tweets bullshit in the middle of the fucking night.

We all want him dead, sure, but I think he'll live out this term and plague us well into his 80s. I'd predict he dies at 83 or 84.

Blue Owl

(58,180 posts)
9. Don't forget all the Diet Cokes
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:15 AM
Oct 2025

Those can't be good for the system considering that's all he drinks.

Then again -- he's probably crossed over into some weird realm where he's embalmed himself and will live forever just to torment us all...

Metaphorical

(2,596 posts)
10. Congestive Heart Failure (CHF)
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 11:20 AM
Oct 2025

I have CHF - I've had multiple heart attacks and a couple of stents put in, but regardless of changes in diet and some exercise, I already know it's unlikely I'll see 70. Note that you CAN have heart attacks and think they are something else.

CHF systems includes swelling in the extremities, diminished oxygen to critical systems, exhaustion, periodic arrhythmia and reduced stamina. Normally, the "solution" is to give a pharmecopia of beta blockers (carvidolal in my case), lasix (furosimide), potassium, various statins, and increasingly antiplatelet/anticoagulation medications like astrazenica. Between the beta blockers and the anticoagulants, even a very healthy person otherwise will feel very drowsy and drift off during the day, and Trump is far from healthy. My guess is that his weight is probably in the 275 lb range, but also, he's almost 80, and the normal life metabolic processes at 80 tend to involve losing body mass rather than gaining it (as is the case for those of us in our 50s and 60s), so he's probably morbidly obese for his height and age.

As others have pointed out here, the White House has a full medical suite and doctors on staff, so the trips to Walter Reed are puzzling. Walter Reed has advanced equipment that you need for surgery, but it doesn't make much sense just for diagnostic visits.

BaronChocula

(4,042 posts)
21. Clearly damaged
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:33 PM
Oct 2025

No brain, no real courage. And completely wicked. A twist on an old tale.

proud patriot

(102,409 posts)
23. A couple observations from 2 diff experiences
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 01:49 PM
Oct 2025

1) I helped my MIL's sister die at Home at not in Hospital when she was at the end of her fight With Cancer .
She was SO scared of Dying and fought it Every Step right up until the end . She was scared to fall asleep
so she tried not to sleep at all . This caused her to doze on and off all day long , even in the middle of Conversations.
She would almost fall out of her chair causing me to go without sleep for about 70 hours until she did fall out of her
recliner . To stay awake she would not lean back in her chair and refused to lay down in her bed . It wasn't until that
Happened that her daughters and the Hospice nurses upped her Comfort level(morphine) and brought in a Hospital bed that
she finally relented and laid down sedated comfortable and not scared anymore . Her feet were blistering up in the weeks
before death because her heart wasn't pumping well . She died a day later .

2) my husband just had the widow maker heart attack 2 months ago . The 2 years prior to the heart attack my husband was
working full time . He had covid that he just couldn't recover from so after 3 weeks Quit his job (so he could be rehired later)
the 2 years at home he napped on and off all day and lost 70 pounds for no apparent reason other than he had no appetite .
after hospitalization and a stent put in and stabilization he is gaining weight and feels Great the Doctor just released him to
go back to work with Zero restrictions .

Irish_Dem

(79,889 posts)
26. Yes he could be doing uppers all night.
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 04:04 PM
Oct 2025

Like back in the day when he was doing cocaine.
And he still abuses adderall.

I also suspect he might be bipolar. One symptom is being awake all night.

But yes there are also medical conditions which causes this.
And why he needs to go to the hospital asap.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,025 posts)
29. trump is NOT well and is having his second annual physical in six months
Thu Oct 9, 2025, 04:31 PM
Oct 2025

"Trump to get a 'routine yearly' medical check-up — his second in 6 months"

If it's every three months, it's not 'yearly'... and it's a sign his doctors are making sure his health gets monitored
www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...

Edward Harrison (@edwardnh.bsky.social) 2025-10-09T12:54:59.997Z
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