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Can we make this song go viral? "Call Me Antifa" (Original Post) Hekate Oct 2025 OP
Call Me Antifa! Yes.. Love the Cha Oct 2025 #1
Cha, it's AI slop from someone using AI to generate about 1 video a day for the last several months. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #14
I AM ANTIFA markie Oct 2025 #2
Thanks for posting this! Great song! raccoon Oct 2025 #3
a tenner says this (and probably all of the hundreds of other 'songs' on that channel) is AI slop, so I'm going to pass Celerity Oct 2025 #4
What is not to love stillspkg Oct 2025 #5
sorry, but I detest AI faux music Celerity Oct 2025 #6
This was so Luddite... Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #7
Normalcy bias. It's a thing. Celerity Oct 2025 #9
I'm not at all afraid of new technology, but generative AI exists only because of AI companies' theft of highplainsdem Oct 2025 #13
Problem is, none of those things you listed are creative art Tommy Carcetti Oct 2025 #25
I don't think computers can really be creative. Mossfern Oct 2025 #30
If you must attack , Oysters Oct 2025 #8
No, as my issue is with the potential (likely IMHO) generation of the song Celerity Oct 2025 #10
I agree that someone creating this much AI slop quickly may very well have other monetized YouTube highplainsdem Oct 2025 #16
NO. That's AI slop, from someone who created that channel only 7 months ago and has used AI for 236 highplainsdem Oct 2025 #11
K & R malaise Oct 2025 #12
No. It's AI slop. See my replies above. highplainsdem Oct 2025 #15
Honest question: how can we tell it's AI? mainer Oct 2025 #17
Yes, it matters whether it's AI. You should care where messages came from. And as Celerity pointed highplainsdem Oct 2025 #18
But assuming we DON'T know about its Youtube channel mainer Oct 2025 #19
Look to see when something was created. Sadly, so much AI slop has flooded the internet in the highplainsdem Oct 2025 #21
And btw, all you have to do to find out about the channel is to click on the link on the video to watch on YouTube highplainsdem Oct 2025 #22
the main clue on this one is the AI slop graphic, the lack of credit to any artists, and the rote rhymes and phrasing. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #24
This. Too-perfect production values, the bland lyrics and no artist named ms liberty Oct 2025 #29
I would not use a name being actively vilified. usonian Oct 2025 #20
AI slop, including the graphic. No thanks. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2025 #23
Well, I guess its all AI SLOP Layzeebeaver Oct 2025 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author BoRaGard Oct 2025 #27
I don't see any value to using the word "antifa" thebigidea Oct 2025 #28
Good morning & ouch. Comes of my desire for catchy protest music in the first place. ... Hekate Oct 2025 #31
Thought of those protests songs from back in the day as well, Hekete. peggysue2 Oct 2025 #32

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
14. Cha, it's AI slop from someone using AI to generate about 1 video a day for the last several months.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:47 AM
Oct 2025

It's possible they didn't write a single line of lyrics, and that they even have the AI telling them.what song to do next and don't really care about anything the lyrics say.

markie

(23,876 posts)
2. I AM ANTIFA
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 03:36 AM
Oct 2025

I am:
pro-America
pro-free speech
pro-human rights
pro-law and order
pro-health care for all
pro-strong communities
pro-immigrant rights
pro-education
.....
.....
.....
.....

Celerity

(53,722 posts)
4. a tenner says this (and probably all of the hundreds of other 'songs' on that channel) is AI slop, so I'm going to pass
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:23 AM
Oct 2025

sorry

I would not at all be shocked if this rando anon human poster/channel owner has another seperate channel of AI slop tunes big-upping MAGAts.

2 sides, same AI-fuelled grift, if so.

stillspkg

(159 posts)
5. What is not to love
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:46 AM
Oct 2025

What is not to love about this song. It's awesome no matter how it originated.

Layzeebeaver

(2,156 posts)
7. This was so Luddite...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:05 AM
Oct 2025

I'm going to write some stuff here, and it's not about you.

Rather, it's about people who share a common fear and loathing of new technology.

Let's list a few things...

Electric screwdrivers
LED lighting
Internal combustion engines
Steam
X-Rays
Quantum Physics
Jet Engines
Anti-biotics
Computers
Fire
Bronze
Search Engines
Radio
Space Travel

Shall we go on?

At what point do we say it's "Slop"?

AI is a tool.

sure, we can use an electric screw driver to drill into someones skull and kill them. should we? No. Meanwhile, we can use the same tool to build houses for the homeless.

WE need to wake up - AND LEARN TO USE THESE NEW TOOLS TO BUILD A BETTER SOCIETY!

Celerity

(53,722 posts)
9. Normalcy bias. It's a thing.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:28 AM
Oct 2025

I have no intrinsic fear of new technology simply because it is 'new'.

I simply choose to not engage in overly expansive, normalcy bias-driven threat minimisation at this point.

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
13. I'm not at all afraid of new technology, but generative AI exists only because of AI companies' theft of
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:40 AM
Oct 2025

all the intellectual property they could grab for their own profit.

They're fundamentally unethical tools, and people who are aware of that theft and use the AI tools anyway are acting.unethically.

Generative AI also dumbs down users, increases wealth inequality, and harms the environment.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,411 posts)
25. Problem is, none of those things you listed are creative art
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:28 AM
Oct 2025

The fun thing about creativity is the time and effort that someone puts into it. The personal stamp that the artist leaves in the work.

Having a computer do most of the work saps the entire process of what gives it soul and the human element.

Mossfern

(4,629 posts)
30. I don't think computers can really be creative.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:30 AM
Oct 2025

That thought has me wanting to go into my deep dive mode because I'm curious how emotional pain relates to creativity.
I honestly doubt that any grown human has never experienced emotional pain.

I don't feel the same way about joy, but that can just be my depression talking ...

Celerity

(53,722 posts)
10. No, as my issue is with the potential (likely IMHO) generation of the song
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:32 AM
Oct 2025

I take no issue with message itself.

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
16. I agree that someone creating this much AI slop quickly may very well have other monetized YouTube
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:54 AM
Oct 2025

channels about other subjects and opinions.

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
11. NO. That's AI slop, from someone who created that channel only 7 months ago and has used AI for 236
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 06:34 AM
Oct 2025

videos in that time.

Which means whoever the hell they are is just having AI write the lyrics and probably offer them ideas on what song to do next.

It's possible that whoever has that AI channel didn't write a single word of any of the songs. For all you know, they really don't care very much about what the songs are about - they've just picked a subject that gets views.

They certainly don't care about all the writers, musicians and artists whose work was stolen to train the AI they're getting those words, vocals, music and art from.

They don't care about the websites whose content is stolen nonstop by AI companies' bots scraping the internet and increasing costs for website owners like EarkG.

Don't reward those AI users, those conscience-free and ethics-free fake creatives, with attention.

mainer

(12,502 posts)
17. Honest question: how can we tell it's AI?
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:13 AM
Oct 2025

I think the song is catchy, but now that someone's pointed out it's AI generated, I'm trying to look for clues that reveal this. I can't tell it's not written by a human. How are we supposed to know?

And a separate question: if it inspires a political movement for good, does it matter?

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
18. Yes, it matters whether it's AI. You should care where messages came from. And as Celerity pointed
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:37 AM
Oct 2025

out above, it's quite possible someone generating AI slop like this could also have a different channel for MAGAts. It takes almost zero effort to have AI generate this soulless, meaningless slop. Just ask an AI music generator for a song in a particular subject in a particular style, and with all the world's copyrighted music having been stolen to train the AI, it'll immediately generate something based on all that theft. (If the AI companies had trained AI only on what they had a legal right to use, they wouldn't be boasting about how well their tools work.)

Images and videos can be generated just as quickly.

So one of the best ways to spot AI slop is how frequently these videos are posted. That site's averaging about one a day. Different styles of music, and different voices on the songs. Different types of artwork.

You're not going to have real songwriters, musicians and singers creating, recording and producing real music at that rate for months - 236 videos in less than 7 months - with real artists doing the artwork.

And btw, the TOS for the slop-producing AI tools sometimes explain that other users might be given the same content.

That YouTube channel tells people to feel free to use the videos. Since they're AI generated, there is no copyright on them. That YouTube account didn't really create them.

mainer

(12,502 posts)
19. But assuming we DON'T know about its Youtube channel
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:43 AM
Oct 2025

How can we tell, just from the song itself?

I'm struggling these days to distinguish AI from human-created.
AI text is getting better and better. My novelist friends tell me they're really disturbed how well AI mimics their own writing. And now there's music/lyrics that are able to fool 99% of us.

How do we tell????

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
21. Look to see when something was created. Sadly, so much AI slop has flooded the internet in the
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:57 AM
Oct 2025

last few years that you often can't trust what's been created since late 2022.

Look to see if the video creator or artist or writer has any track record of creating anything worthwhile going back more than a few years. Maybe their YouTube channel is new but they have their own work elsewhere online.

I've advised DUers to focus on the YouTube channels from artists, journalists and pundits we're already familiar with and know we can trust. There's way more content than we can follow from them, without needing AI slop from newcomers. There's way too much AI slop getting posted on DU these days. And since people have limited time, the time wasted on AI slop takes time away from people providing valuable information and art.

highplainsdem

(60,135 posts)
22. And btw, all you have to do to find out about the channel is to click on the link on the video to watch on YouTube
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:08 AM
Oct 2025

and look at the channel. See when it was created. If it's recent with a lot of videos with different styles, voices, etc., good chance it's AI. Even if the channel's years older than 2022, click on the link for the oldest videos to see if, after AI became available, there was a sudden change in the type of videos being posted, and how often they were being posted, because that often happens when someone starts using AI. You might see, once they start posting videos more often, changes in subject till they find the right bait for views. I remember one such channel that tried videos about dragons and time travel before discovering that political themes worked and suddenly doing a lot of those.

Many of these YouTube channels are monetized and you can't always tell. Some also ask for donations through various websites.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,405 posts)
24. the main clue on this one is the AI slop graphic, the lack of credit to any artists, and the rote rhymes and phrasing.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:28 AM
Oct 2025

Last edited Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:38 AM - Edit history (1)

ETA: If it sounds like contemporary Christian music -- and this song does, very much -- in a context that doesn't make sense, it's AI.

And a separate question: if it inspires a political movement for good, does it matter?
If you can measure the inspiration and "good" that it does, I'd love to see it.

ms liberty

(10,987 posts)
29. This. Too-perfect production values, the bland lyrics and no artist named
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:19 AM
Oct 2025

Anyone with that perfect a voice is going to put their name to it.

usonian

(23,644 posts)
20. I would not use a name being actively vilified.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 07:56 AM
Oct 2025

American might be better.

Writing is difficult. I have some ideas but I am not a composer nor lyricist, and have not heard much or anything from those who are.

I tried some little songs here that bombed.

This moment is comparable to the 60's.

And ..... 🎹

Layzeebeaver

(2,156 posts)
26. Well, I guess its all AI SLOP
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 08:37 AM
Oct 2025

Done deal.

Let's just try and ignore it - see what happens.

EDIT: Just kidding!

Response to Hekate (Original post)

thebigidea

(13,559 posts)
28. I don't see any value to using the word "antifa"
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 09:05 AM
Oct 2025

It's foreign, it sounds stupid, we have no history of using it in this country and it has to be explained to the average voter. When you're explaining you're losing.

The Allies certainly didn't fight the Nazis under the banner of Antifa and it's disingenuous to pretend WWII vets are Antifa. They aren't. Churchill had no fucking problem funding Franco to keep him out of the war, so fascism was fine with him if it served his interests.

all that and AI slop on top? Fucking gross. I'm a Democrat and a musician and I say FUCK THAT.

Hekate

(100,132 posts)
31. Good morning & ouch. Comes of my desire for catchy protest music in the first place. ...
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 02:20 PM
Oct 2025

Some of you in this thread were alive when we actually had music that meant something in that regard, and it was a powerful unifying force with easily-memorized and easily-changed lyrics. Psychology.

I went to several street corner rallies this time around, and the energy was superb but the music was a deejay with deafening volume and lyrics I couldn’t make out if you paid me. (Had to give up on rallies when my knee gave out; now I’m just waiting for surgery, thanks for asking)

So my one in the morning inspiration turned out to be provable AI Slop. Carry on.

peggysue2

(12,390 posts)
32. Thought of those protests songs from back in the day as well, Hekete.
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 04:33 PM
Oct 2025

Boomers get an earful on a lot of issues but even my own kids will grudgingly admit we had great music. We need another round of that creativity now, music and lyrics that bore right into you.

As for this one? I actually liked it, even though it's an AI product.

Hey, if it inspires a flesh and blood songwriter, it may go from slop to muse (as in I can do it better).

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