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KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 11:10 AM Oct 2025

2nd amendment guys at Walmart today

Almost everybody I passed (about 10/12 people) I asked "Think we'll ever see the Epstein files?
Received dumpie & Congress bashing replies, no one said we didn't need to see them, but the
last 2 turned into a real eye opener.

At self check out these 2 guys (thinking father & son) older one was wearing a 2nd A t-shirt
both had red white & blue hats with sayings. When he seen my anti-MAGAt t-shirt I got a
real dirty look so there's my big mouth again "Think we'll ever see the Epstein files?".

Hardly got a word in after that, mainly just agreeing with what he was saying. He started
talking about how the rich use their money to control us, taking Obama care away from
people were the main 2 subjects he mentioned.

Walking out to my SUV I got to thinking that guy knows trickle down doesn't work even though
he never said trickle down. So talking about the Epstein files can easily turn into a discussion
about the rich and how & why elected Rs are protecting them.

If every one of us started asking strangers at the grocery stores at least once a day "Think we'll
ever see the Epstein files?" and "Why is Congress protecting these pedophiles?", I feel we could
sweep the R party under the rug in the midterms and maybe for 10 or 20 years.

Remember NO ONE LIKES PEDOPHILES ! We need to use this to our advantage.

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2nd amendment guys at Walmart today (Original Post) KS Toronado Oct 2025 OP
I wish I shared your optimism. Gimpyknee Oct 2025 #1
I'm in a red State and I'm seeing it turn purple KS Toronado Oct 2025 #12
Same but that's associated with PedoCon vs policy, they don't see the policy connected to MAGA just identity uponit7771 Oct 2025 #22
What if people started wearing shirts that say "EPSTEIN" ? durablend Oct 2025 #2
Excellent suggestion. "Epstein stole your Affordable Health Care." Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #5
Love humor as a sword. multigraincracker Oct 2025 #7
Or, 70sEraVet Oct 2025 #20
This is the Epstein "I'm Pissed" list.. BattleRow Oct 2025 #25
Stealing all of these! Can I post them on Threads? GoneOffShore Oct 2025 #31
Please do. Spread wide. Make extra signs to give away. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #32
Thank you! GoneOffShore Oct 2025 #33
That's too obscure. "Trump Raped Children" would be better. sop Oct 2025 #10
Have one coming right now in the mail KS Toronado Oct 2025 #18
Do you think we'll ever see the Epstein files? Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #3
Not while dumpie is in office KS Toronado Oct 2025 #4
Then it will be a massive thorn in his side the entire time with no way to remove it. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #6
Yep, spot on ! KS Toronado Oct 2025 #13
I don't understand why he hasn't just ordered them all altered or destroyed. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2025 #28
He probably has already ordered them altered or destroyed KS Toronado Oct 2025 #29
I would prefer we say that REPUBLICANS are protecting pedophiles. democrank Oct 2025 #8
Yes that is the truth but from my experience KS Toronado Oct 2025 #14
I hope you're right. NNadir Oct 2025 #9
This is good, very good. Epstein gave us common ground. Joinfortmill Oct 2025 #11
Thank You, Yes exactly what I tried to say with this OP KS Toronado Oct 2025 #16
Hmmm...interesting. Maybe...be careful if you do! electric_blue68 Oct 2025 #27
And no one likes people who protect, enable, befriend and admire pedophiles or profit from them either ToxMarz Oct 2025 #15
I hope that these newly awoken people can sort things out. tikka Oct 2025 #17
Bingo!!! W T F Oct 2025 #19
NICE !!! Looks like a good entry subject for MAGA ... thx for sharing uponit7771 Oct 2025 #21
I spend too much time reading about politics on my phone womanofthehills Oct 2025 #23
Rec, and may I add that no one likes dog killers either. GoodRaisin Oct 2025 #24
Slight correction, almost no one likes pedophiles. Buddyzbuddy Oct 2025 #26
Fascism Is Defined By Delusional Depravity - Fascism Embraces All Types Of Depravity As Useful To Inflict Harm MayReasonRule Oct 2025 #30
These are two unexpected (to me) developments Bluetus Oct 2025 #34

KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
12. I'm in a red State and I'm seeing it turn purple
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:39 PM
Oct 2025

What I've been hearing recently from people around here (my town is 90% R) are saying stuff
they never would have heard on FQX noise. One lady this morning referred to the $190
million dumpie made yesterday off bitcoins and asked me "Why would we want to replace
our monetary system with bitcoins?"

Believe Rs are getting more of their understanding of things from social media. Almost every
underhanded thing we read about on DU that this administration has done and are presently
doing, I'm hearing from total strangers in a town that voted 90% for dumpie. He's losing
his base.

Go ahead and start asking people you know and strangers "Think we'll ever see the Epstein
files?" Rs will not bite your head off with that question and surprise you with answers,
remember no one likes pedophiles.

uponit7771

(93,491 posts)
22. Same but that's associated with PedoCon vs policy, they don't see the policy connected to MAGA just identity
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:04 PM
Oct 2025

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
5. Excellent suggestion. "Epstein stole your Affordable Health Care."
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:03 PM
Oct 2025

"Epstein loves the Tariff Taxes"
"Epstein won't pay your house insurance"
"Epstein Raised your Electricity bill"
"How many Epsteins in the Billionaire tax cut?"
"Got Epstein?"
"This is the Epstein Economy"
"Epstein distracts from ICE"
"Epstein won't walk your dog"
"Epstein hates drag queens"
"Epstein is burning Portland"
"Epstein wears red?"
"Epstein never used makeup"

BattleRow

(2,090 posts)
25. This is the Epstein "I'm Pissed" list..
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 04:24 PM
Oct 2025

Hell yeah..THIS list is readily available with no redactions .

KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
18. Have one coming right now in the mail
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:26 PM
Oct 2025

Hope it gets here before our local no kings rally.

KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
4. Not while dumpie is in office
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:03 PM
Oct 2025

Last edited Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:23 PM - Edit history (1)

that is if they all haven't mysteriously vanished by now already.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. Then it will be a massive thorn in his side the entire time with no way to remove it. . . . . nt
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:05 PM
Oct 2025

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,480 posts)
28. I don't understand why he hasn't just ordered them all altered or destroyed.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 08:14 PM
Oct 2025

With them all wiling to lie for him and the Extreme Court determined to put all power in the Executive so when their useful clown is gone their choice for POTUS can implement the rest of their Christofascist agenda, he'd just get away with it.

KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
29. He probably has already ordered them altered or destroyed
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 09:52 PM
Oct 2025

It's why Johnson is dragging his feet in the House, and when Blondi was quizzed about them
she just talks in circles. Before long dumpie will be saying there's no proof he's on the
Epstein list. IMO they have been altered or destroyed.

KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
14. Yes that is the truth but from my experience
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:54 PM
Oct 2025

it's best not to say the dirty R word. If Rs think you are bashing their preferred party, they
will turn against you in a heart beat and start attacking you. I learned this the hard way.

We all know it's only Rs protecting all the rich pedophiles, saying Congress works better.
IMHO

NNadir

(37,324 posts)
9. I hope you're right.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:25 PM
Oct 2025

I'm not sure that there'll ever again be a free and fair election in this country.

KS Toronado

(23,086 posts)
16. Thank You, Yes exactly what I tried to say with this OP
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:12 PM
Oct 2025

Yes Ds & Rs have a common ground now and we need to use it to our advantage.


Had a silly thought after signing up for the No Kings event yesterday, I emailed our local coordinator
what she/he would think about if a few of us dressed up like ICE (no carrying guns) with faces
covered with signs saying along the lines "COMING SOON TO A TOWN NEAR YOU" that's
another thing I believe Rs are tired of...ICE

ToxMarz

(2,764 posts)
15. And no one likes people who protect, enable, befriend and admire pedophiles or profit from them either
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 12:57 PM
Oct 2025

tikka

(838 posts)
17. I hope that these newly awoken people can sort things out.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:25 PM
Oct 2025

Like the Rumper business owner, who blamed his going out of business on the government's tariff policies instead of Rump and the Rs. It's always the government's fault with Rs in charge and some evil person (Obama, Pelosi, Biden) in charge with the Ds.

W T F

(1,186 posts)
19. Bingo!!!
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 01:40 PM
Oct 2025

This is how I frame my argument in favor of Prop 50 in California.
“Release the Epstein files………….Vote YES on 50”

womanofthehills

(10,720 posts)
23. I spend too much time reading about politics on my phone
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:06 PM
Oct 2025

When I’m out shopping, last thing I want to think about is politics.

GoodRaisin

(10,741 posts)
24. Rec, and may I add that no one likes dog killers either.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 02:14 PM
Oct 2025

Need to work Noem’s dog killing into those conversations if possible. Wretched woman.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,149 posts)
26. Slight correction, almost no one likes pedophiles.
Sun Oct 12, 2025, 06:22 PM
Oct 2025

This administration and the Republican Congress is filled with either sexual assaulters or defenders of pedophilia or actual pedophiles.

MayReasonRule

(4,016 posts)
30. Fascism Is Defined By Delusional Depravity - Fascism Embraces All Types Of Depravity As Useful To Inflict Harm
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 08:02 AM
Oct 2025

The sexual abuse of children by despotic fascist overlords is well documented throughout all of humanity's history.

Nazis are just another evil branch of this tree of depravity.
Nat-C or Nazi no matter the name the sordid depravity's always the same.
This. Is. That.

Surreptitious resistance is successful resistance.
Watch your back out there y'all.

Bluetus

(2,329 posts)
34. These are two unexpected (to me) developments
Mon Oct 13, 2025, 11:49 AM
Oct 2025

I like to think I have a pretty good idea of the landscape, but I didn't see either of these coming:

1) After all the crimes, disrespect for soldiers, treason with Russia and everything else, they would draw the line at the Epstein documents.

2) Turns out they love Obamacare after all, and don't even mind calling it "Obamacare" instead of the ACA.

Regarding 1), my supposition has been that they are craving the Epstein papers because they still believe it will expose nothing but pedo Democrats. But I really don't hear many of them voicing that. I hope this genuinely is an intense hatred for pedophiles, because at least that is some common ground. We need somebody to design a powerful T-Shirt graphic along the lines of "MAGA and the Libs agree on one thing. We both detest pedophiles" (Somebody can do better than that.).

Of course, most of them still believe Trump had nothing to do with Epstein's operation, but that is a detail for another day after we are all together in demanding accountability. Our position should be "Pedos are the worst of humanity. EVERYONE involved in that must be punished severely."

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