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Laura Esposito
Former Vice President Kamala Harris had the last word for protesters who tried to disrupt her book tour event in Chicago on Saturday.
During an event promoting her memoir 107 Days, a small group of protesters shouted at the former presidential candidate over her handling of Israel’s war in Gaza, social media videos show.
Then Harris joined the back and forth: “Are you the same person who was telling people not to vote?” she asked demonstrators as audience members cheered.
The former vice president was seemingly referring to the uncommitted movement, which saw thousands of typically reliable Democratic voters cast their ballots “uncommitted” or abstain altogether in protest of the party’s backing of Israel.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kamala-harris-slams-protester-at-book-tour/
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W_HAMILTON
(10,094 posts)Not only did the killing and suffering in Gaza increase after Trump took office, so did the destruction of our country by MAGA fascists.
I think I may hate these people as much as I do MAGAts.
RandomNumbers
(19,070 posts)So whose side are those "pro Palestinian" protestors really on? Are they just idiots, or something more nefarious?
wolfie001
(7,120 posts)The ratf6ckers know how to control the narrative. We Dems always seem to be 3 steps behind.
yardwork
(68,985 posts)Billionaires made sure that the internet was primed and armed to go full anti-Biden Harris the day after Hamas attacked.
The PR kit came complete with colorful emojis, cute slogans, and paid trollers. The word went out through DSA, Sunshine Coalition, gaming sites, woo woo antivax astrology groups, and other targets.
The goal was to get Trump back in the WH and it worked. Progressives fell for it like MAGATs watching Fox News.
JI7
(93,250 posts)When she hold no office shows they certainly aren't about helping the Palestinians.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,480 posts)in the Oval.
markodochartaigh
(5,055 posts)The "spontaneous" protests which were ginned up by Tiktokkers supposedly in support of Gaza, may become a valued tool of the reich-wing. Now that the proof-of-concept trial has been such a success, the Murdochs, Ellison, and other authoritarian oiligarchs are buying Tiktok.
Trump had said that he wanted to ban Tiktok. I think that our techbro overlords convinced him that it would be foolish to get rid of a tool which worked so well, that the best strategy was to take control of the tool.
pnwest
(3,422 posts)a running start and footlball tackling some moron. I'd buy a ticket to that.
Polly Hennessey
(8,582 posts)
Cha
(316,957 posts)home, Kamala Harris.. Mahalo! 
TY!
Tetrachloride
(9,404 posts)Some became that way over the past 10+ years.
Some were born to it because of their loyalty to their ethnic background.
The retort by Kamala Harris may be witty. But doesn't win the argument in the minds of the protestors.
Polls and headlines indicate a wide variety of opinions among the electorate and world populace.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)Look at Gaza now. They voted for this.
Tetrachloride
(9,404 posts)Many here think the Gaza War started in October 2023.
Those of non-Israeli in the Middle East think the "war" (physical and political) was about 75-100 + years ago.
The US has repeatedly blocked recognition of the Palestine has belonging to the people of what has been called Palestine.
The US has been outvoted in the UN -- but the US uses its Security vote.
Therefore, an acknowledgement of this discrimination has not been forthcoming from the US in the mainstream.
Therefore, an acknowledgment of the discrimination would be the first of billions of dollars of steps to repair the homes of the genocide.
Therefore, an acknowledgement of genocide is what the protestors and myself would be looking for.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)Riiight
Tetrachloride
(9,404 posts)the one who was in office with President Biden during the first year since the Oct 2023 attack.
The US mainstream isn't in the mainstream of the world.
The voting or non-voting by those in the protest movement was one of anger and desperation.
Their anger will outlive those in the mainstream US.
RandomNumbers
(19,070 posts)doomed Gazans to even more suffering and much less chance of a better outcome.
I wonder how they live with themselves. Or do they just lie to themselves, I wonder?
Tetrachloride
(9,404 posts)RandomNumbers
(19,070 posts)Sometimes decisions are challenging. Take the least bad option, or you are giving away your power to prevent the most bad option.
"If you refuse to decide, you still have made a choice". -- Rush
Montauk6
(9,305 posts)
paleotn
(21,615 posts)Oh, yeah! Being a goddamn adult!! Welcome to life, children. This is but one of a myriad of bad or worse options you'll be faced with before you take the long dirt nap. 
Tetrachloride
(9,404 posts)Additional observations:
Among those who are Muslim and I talked to (sometimes via translating person), at least one was Palestinian.
I sensed they knew they were between a rock and a hard place.
A Muslim that I spoke to recently spoke of the general nature of the world going downhill and specifically mentioned Gaza (without prompting from me of any politics or fighting. More about economics.)
An Israeli that I have know for over 10 years told me -- "we are hated throughout the world."
I note that Israel has blocked aid trucks from Egypt from entering Gaza in a timely manner. Food as a weapon.
as many as 60,000 dead in Gaza in the past 24 months. More than 20x killed in the World Trade Center attack of 2001. More than the number of Americans killed in the entire Vietnam War of the 1960's and 70's.
Wiz Imp
(9,023 posts)Either that, or among the most disingenuous and/or evil.
anti-repub
(27 posts)They must be among the most well payed demonstrators by the Miller/Trump axis.
lostincalifornia
(4,919 posts)blood on their hands as hamas, and the obvious retaliation hamas knew would happen under netanyahu.
They are responsible for the 65000+ Palestinian deaths, along with the Israeli deaths.
What did they think would happen when hamas massacred 1200+ people at a rock festival on October 7?
There is absolutely no cure for stupidity.
This isn't the first time these groups have played that game. Not surprisingly these prosters sense of history is willfully ignorant to suit their own bias.
Hamas came about from the virulent antisemite the Mufti of Jerusalem and Muslim Brotherhood, the group that assassinated Sadat. They cannot tolerate any peace with Israel. That was one of the excuses used by some for the October 7, because of the potential agreement with some of the Arab neighbors. A similar excuse used by the assassin of Rabin because he was against the Oslo agreement.
There are some sick, twisted individuals out there who cannot tolerate peace agreements. In their sick, twisted minds, it is all or nothing.
There were multiple opportunities for a two-state solution through the years, and each time it became close, the same actors came in to play their part.
When Bill Clinton left office, he left the foundation for a two-state solution to the next administration based on the Oslo Accords, and of course what happened, George W. bush won, with no thanks to the third party imbeciles, with their "no difference between the two parties." All you have to look at is the Supreme Court appointment to know the difference.
Similar thing happened in 2016, where in every critical swing state Hillary lost by less than 1% while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those critical swing states.
And then 2024 happened, and the same actors were there again, to help propel republicans to victory. This time putting our very Democracy at risk.
The only thing these unaffiliated groups have done is help republicans win.
You would hope the Democratic party would finally learn, these are not a reliable voting block. This is nothing to do with Sanders or the Progressive caucus, They caucus with the DEMOCRATS. These are the Jill Stein's, Ralph Nader's, and other third party spoilers, whose egos and arrogance has contributed to where we are today.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)paleotn
(21,615 posts)You left out that part.
Wiz Imp
(9,023 posts)It's dumb, stupid, idiotic, moronic, ridiculous, unconscionable, indefensible, unprincipled, unscrupulous and JUST PLAIN WRONG!
lostincalifornia
(4,919 posts)
betsuni
(28,742 posts)Get people to do the opposite of what they claim they want and be passionately convinced they and only they are right and everybody else is evil. Puppets.
fujiyamasan
(1,235 posts)Sorry no sympathy. They got what they wanted, just like the Arabs in Dearborn, fuck em.
Maybe when ICE starts rounding these idiots up for being part of “ANTIFA”, they’ll learn,
Or then again, they’re all part of the same team of Disruptors and chaos agents.
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paleotn
(21,615 posts)I don't care how angry they are. By withholding votes from Dems, who are actually trying to find a way out of this mess, their actions put into office the very people who think Bibi the Butcher isn't butchering enough. How on god's green earth does THAT work? This is just the other side of the "they're all the same" coin. Bullshit.
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obamanut2012
(29,190 posts)And have made the world avworse place for so many millions more.
fujiyamasan
(1,235 posts)Why aren’t they right now? The last I heard Harris is a private citizen. She’s not in power now, and as a VP her power was limited anyways,
Protesting her is about as pointless as it gets. These protestors are not serious. I greatly sympathize with what’s happening to the people of Gaza, but I also understand our own history with Israel and the reasons behind it.
do I agree with it? No, but these protestors basically fucked over the country by either not supporting Harris, or worse yet supporting Trump.
I also see that since Trump came into office, the bombardement got worse, yet these protestors more or less faded away. Why no pithy slogans about genocide Trump? I know it doesn’t flow or rhyme but it’s telling.
BaronChocula
(4,047 posts)a black woman makes an easy target.
fujiyamasan
(1,235 posts)It could also be that many of these protestors are basically cowards.
They knew that Biden was wasn’t going to have ICE throw them in a concentration camp.
That they are still going after Harris is something else. Even for those of us disgusted by what Israel is done, this movement will not find an ally in me, because it has no strategy, attacks easy targets, and ultimately falls back on classic good ‘ole anti semetism. I wouldn’t be surprised if a big concern for these protestors was that Harris’ husband is Jewish. I’m sure that got many of them freaking out.
Maybe they figured there were enough anti semites among Trump’s crowd they could find common cause, who knows, maybe our in house defenders can explain idiot logic.
BaronChocula
(4,047 posts)Democrats as a whole are less punitive than conservative white males. But they don't seem to be targeting any other Democrats.
fujiyamasan
(1,235 posts)Since the 2000 election where Nader gave us Bush. Of course, we see it again with Jill Stein.
I always wondered what drives people to such counterproductive actions?
I have come to the conclusion that for such people spite is the end goal. They’re doing this because they share a similar nihilistic strain as incels, groypers, and assorted MAGAts. Sure, their ideology isn’t the same on the face of it, but in reality they still want to cripple social progress, even if it’s incremental. Ultimately they act like spoiled children. If they don’t get it their way, right away they would rather watch it all burn down.
BaronChocula
(4,047 posts)are "progressive" purists really part of the Democratic fold. I think to this point we've only expected them to be, only to be disappointed by them in November. And two of the words that occur to me when I think of those types are spiteful and childish.
When one's family and close ones are under military siege people have a right to be angry and emotional. When Palestinian voters first declared they would withhold support from Biden in 2024, there were many here who called them names and suggested when trump won they'd "get what they deserved." I defended Palestinian anger in the moment knowing that at least some were acting out of fresh emotion, but would come around. Of course my empathy does not go as far to those who stuck to their pledge to get trump elected and are carrying out this nonsense.
fujiyamasan
(1,235 posts)And his chumminess with Netanyahu. Some of these idiots act all shocked to see it too. Or act “disappointed”. This was the same guy that one day decided to ban people from a select group of countries because of their religion during his first term. But I guess memories are short.
I understand their frustration toward US foreign policy, but there was nothing to ever indicate that Trump would give Palestinians a better outcome.
BaronChocula
(4,047 posts)White conservative men in America get the white man's pass. It's a historic American tradition. Many immigrants to America align themselves with white conservative culture because they know that historically, that has been from where most power has been wielded in America and it's a safer realm with which to be associated. It's also a dangerous cabal to cross. Like we discussed earlier, there's little risk in going after VP Harris as a Palestinian.
Met an old friend for coffee yesterday who got married to a woman from China. She once told him regarding religion "I'm from China - Our religion is money." He is by no means a republican or conservative, but he said she was initially won over by trump. That didn't last. He did also say "thank goodness she doesn't really vote." It also made me think of trump's stronger than expected support among Latinos, many of whom are now acting shocked at his inhumane policies. This was a guy with a history of separating Latino children from their parents and putting them in cages yet he received a good chunk of Latino support over the clearly more humane candidate. I chalk it all up to the white man's pass.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,877 posts)who pretend they are morally superior so they can pass judgment on everyone else to feed their egos. Think Susan Sarandon.
electric_blue68
(25,986 posts)They have a right to.be there, too!
Palestinians have often been treated badly, sometimes at the cross point for Gaza into Israel.
Particularly, I think of illegal (sometimes even US) Jews who've infringed on, and even destroyed homes, and olive trees in the West Bank designated for Palestinians, and taken that piece of land over! While the IDF looks on. 😑😬
.
I was/am for a two State solution.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,877 posts)These Protestors don’t have open minds. Nor do they care about really affecting change. They only care about pretending they are morally superior to pass judgment on everyone else to feed their egos
paleotn
(21,615 posts)Hekate
(100,132 posts)
JI7
(93,250 posts)than Biden and other US Presidents.
She told Netanyahu to his face that what he was doing in Gaza was wrong.
But people didn't like that she would acknowledge the horrible attacks on Israelis. Especially the sex crimes that women in Israel were put through.
Tetrachloride
(9,404 posts)JI7
(93,250 posts)with plans that Israel would give up land.
And they actually gave up Gaza and had their soldiers forcibly remove Israelis that were refusing to leave.
And these trash protestors refuse to look at Hamas and other thugs and their behavior. In fact that usually defend Hamas.
kacekwl
(8,894 posts)Netanyahu are screwing everyone over. What does Kampala have to do with it. Get with current players in the game.
Iggo
(49,668 posts)Democrats have GOT to stop accusing everyone who protests against our involvement in Gaza with not voting or with voting for Trump. It’s just not true.
I’ve always been against the genocide in Gaza.
I always will be against it.
I always vote.
I always vote for Democrats.
I’m getting sick of this. And I’m not alone.
JI7
(93,250 posts)scum.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,208 posts)I'm sure they're equally vehement against the MAGAt Republicans who actually control the US government now.
Right?
Or maybe they're afraid to bite the filthy hands that feed them.
JustAnotherGen
(37,593 posts)This is why Black women aren't showing up for folks like we have in the past.
Its also why we are cheering her retort.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)Hamas asserts control in Gaza and targets alleged collaborators as ceasefire takes hold
Source: CNN
Hamas’ internal security forces were pictured on the streets of Gaza City on Saturday, and there have been multiple reports of clashes between the group and clans opposing it in recent days.
“A number of collaborators and informants were apprehended and arrested in Gaza City, after it was proven that they were involved in spying for the enemy,” as well as “participating in the assassination of several resistance members,” the Palestinian Home Front, a Telegram channel affiliated with Hamas, said Sunday.
A video distributed by Hamas-affiliated Telegram channels on Saturday showed an alleged collaborator being beaten in an unknown location.
Biophilic
(6,409 posts)And anyone who talked to others about not voting “voted” for trump. I don’t forgive them.
Hekate
(100,132 posts)
Gaugamela
(3,255 posts)genocide, rather ask why you didn't vote for your party anyway!
Heck yeah!
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,184 posts)Hekate
(100,132 posts)
617Blue
(2,189 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(175,184 posts)
Keepthesoulalive
(2,127 posts)The former vice president has no power to change or fix the problem. People who seek attention and money are doing more damage to a righteous cause, stopping Israel from starving the people and stealing their land. Perhaps you should go after Trump who wants to to turn Gaza into a resort.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,877 posts)has very little power to change or fix any problems.
Keepthesoulalive
(2,127 posts)Did a search and found who might be funding them and you have enough narcissistic idiots who want attention that they can be easily purchased. These people are like trump, they don’t care about anything or anyone they just want fame.
paleotn
(21,615 posts)
DrLevy1313
(1 post)I love this so very much! I have downloaded it and watch it whenever I need a boost. whew. what we lost by not electing her!
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,184 posts)
ChicagoTeamster
(447 posts)
NNadir
(37,321 posts)...suicide. It's really that simple.
paleotn
(21,615 posts)
QueerDuck
(1,040 posts)... people still wonder why respectable party leaders want nothing to do with those who encouraged people to "leave it blank". Treachery and betrayal has consequences... not just for a nation, but for those who promoted it. And now they feel like they are entitled to certain perks, benefits, courtesies and niceties? I don't think so. Oh no you better don't!
calimary
(89,065 posts)Same feeling when I voted for Hillary. First time I ever had a chance to vote for a woman who actually had everything it took to be the Chief Executive.
I’ll never forget how that felt - that I’d lived during a time when a woman could be elected President. And earn that Office. And sit behind that desk. I was so sure she’d win - actually that BOTH of them were gonna win, and get women into the history books for the ultimate achievement in America.
And still… it’s GOTTA be a man? With all the female talent and achievement and qualifications out there, we STILL can’t get a woman into the Oval Office (unless she’s stopped by to visit her husband in there)?
thought crime
(1,247 posts)Or just dumber than hell? If so, they should read her book.
johnnyfins
(3,454 posts)Why show up and do this after TSF won? Doesnt make sense.
enid602
(9,617 posts)I think Kamala, should she have won would have gotten rid of the albatross by now. Biden seemed to be moving in that direction.
betsuni
(28,742 posts)controlling foreign policy around the globe, could've stopped all wars and fixed immigration and brought down food, gas, housing prices instantly. "Why did Killer Kamala allow it, why didn't she stop it?" they fume, rearranging their special protest scarves before taking a selfie.
dugog55
(365 posts)and providing more weapons for their genocide of Palestinians. However, I voted for Ms. Harris and straight Dem down ballot. They were wrong about Israel but way more correct with everything else.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,877 posts)that I’ve voted for. Too many are looking for a perfect candidate and they don’t exist. They think voting is all about them and what they want. But voting is really about supporting the person who will do the best for everyone.
JustAnotherGen
(37,593 posts)Coming out that it's driven by them.
PunkinPi
(5,244 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,593 posts)AOK . . . now she's just annoying. They also haven't picked on a man since Benjamin knocked on Erik Prince's door.
PunkinPi
(5,244 posts)one of the co-founders, Jodie Evans, married a tech guy who has close ties to CCP, that support has apparently dropped.
JustAnotherGen
(37,593 posts)And hypocrites.
gfarber
(206 posts)In Chicago, the crowd gave a cheer,
As Kamala’s message rang clear.
With memoir in hand,
She made her firm stand,
Though protesters soon would appear.
A small group began to shout loud,
Their message not lost on the crowd.
They jeered over Gaza,
But not with much causa—
For Harris, their point wasn’t proud.
She paused, then returned with a line,
"Did you say not voting was fine?"
The audience roared,
As she cut with a sword—
A jab both direct and refined.
“Uncommitted” ballots were cast,
A message from voters amassed.
But Kamala pressed,
Unmoved and well-dressed,
With questions that echoed the past.
Though Gaza’s a topic of weight,
She questioned their civic debate:
"Did you sit it out
Just to scream and shout?"
The moment was charged and irate.
The book tour rolled on with a spark,
Though protests had left their remark.
But Harris stood tall,
Responding to all—
Her comment had clearly left a mark.