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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: The Democratic Governor of Maine just announced her campaign to defeat Susan Collins. This is huge.
This is great news. Governor Mills is very electable
Link to tweet
eShirl
(20,056 posts)Vinca
(53,274 posts)My only thought on this is when the Democratic vote matters - November 2026 - all Democrats support whoever wins the primary. No stay-at-homes, no third parties, no hissy fits because "your" candidate isn't on the ballot.
temporary311
(959 posts)but given the issues we've had with aged politicians the last few years, I'm not sure sending a soon-to-be octogenarian is the best idea. Certainly not when there are other good candidates who aren't a decade+ past retirement age.
dsc
(53,314 posts)and I would be fine with her.
Cha
(316,516 posts)Re Elected Sen Angus King last year who is 81.
The Race "Turned to Toss Up from Leans gop when she entered.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)Mills is clearly more electable than any other candidate
Maine Gov. Janet Millsâ entrance into the Senate race on Tuesday marks a significant escalation in political firepower aimed at longtime GOP Sen. Susan Collins. We are moving the contest from Lean R -> Toss Up.
— The Cook Political Report (@cookpolitical.com) 2025-10-14T13:38:17.516Z
https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/senate/maine-senate/maine-senate-race-moves-toss-mills-entrance
Mills, of course, does not have a clear path to the nomination, and there is no guarantee that she will win it. But she is a top-tier recruit in a field that currently lacks a well-known or well-established candidate. And while Collins has defied electoral expectations for decades, the political environment today is more polarized than ever, which makes Collins ability to effectively straddle partisan lines more challenging.
As such, we are moving the contest from Lean Republican to Toss Up.
There are several other Democrats in the race, but oyster farmer and first-time political candidate Graham Platner appears to be Mills most serious
eShirl
(20,056 posts)Just in case there's other good ones too.
EdmondDantes_
(1,321 posts)There should be a primary.
JustAnotherGen
(37,493 posts)Let the Democratic Candidates make their argument to the party voters in Maine.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,498 posts)(including 30% that strongly disapprove) and a 47-43 favorability rating (including 29%
that have a very unfavorable view of her). She has a 40-51 approval rating among
independents.
3) Less than half of voters have heard of Graham Platner. Platner has a 21-9
favorability rating, with 15% saying they are neutral toward him, and 55% saying they
dont know enough about him to form an opinion. About three-in-four are unfamiliar with
two other Democratic candidates (74% for Jordan Wood and 79% for Dan Kleban).
4) In the initial ballot, Platner and Collins start out tied, and Mills holds a 5-point lead
over Collins. In the initial ballot test, Mills leads Collins 42% to 37%, while Platner and
Collins are tied at 38%. Collins has about the same share of the vote against both
candidates.
5) After respondents see short biographies for both Democratic candidates, Platner
leads Collins by 14 points, and Mills leads Collins by 8 points. Post-bios, Platner
leads Collins 48-34, a net gain of 14 points from the initial ballot, and Mills leads Collins
44-36, a net gain of 3 points from the initial ballot.
https://perfectunion.us/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/More-Perfect-Union_-Maine-Senate-General-Election-Benchmark-Poll.pdf
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,493 posts)84 or 85. That asshole Grassley is in his 90's and wants to run again.
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)Bernie and Grassley aren't running to turn a seat blue, and keep it blue, in Maine
She'd be 84 starting her reelection campaign
QueerDuck
(914 posts)under any other "normal" circumstances. We need warm-bodies NOW in the Senate, we need our numbers up NOW. It makes little sense to me to not pursue the obvious easy advantages that we get by shifting the balance of power in the Senate rather than dismissing her as a one-term "placeholder" Senator who's not worth considering or supporting, based on the belief that someone "better" and "younger" might come along who could hold the seat for more years.
I'm very happy to hear this news.
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)QueerDuck
(914 posts)A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. This is a bird in the hand... let's keep it. Let's do all we can re-establish a Senate majority NOW... we can worry about who's "too old" to run for reelection later.
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)JustAnotherGen
(37,493 posts)We won't be returning to the Status Quo when this regime falls.
QueerDuck
(914 posts)and right now, we are NOT in the majority. We need to be, so that's the priority.
JustAnotherGen
(37,493 posts)I'll leave it up to the people of Maine. We can't assume that our country is going to look anything like it did January 19, 2025 in 6 months - or 6 years.
I'm already in a place of the Electoral Rules are no longer in place. Then again - I've lived in NJ for 20 years and I've picked up that 'anything can happen' optimism.
W_HAMILTON
(10,024 posts)QueerDuck
(914 posts)no matter how much it harms the party or the country... all in the name of purity... and virtue signaling.
Torchlight
(6,279 posts)meadowlander
(5,090 posts)PuraVidaDreamin
(4,443 posts)rzemanfl
(31,083 posts)There is no prejudice or stereotyping here in terms of her mental fitness or abilities
The issue is longevity and duration of service
Good grief
sheshe2
(95,669 posts)TY.
JustAnotherGen
(37,493 posts)Primaries are healthy -
To - But she's 'so old'. Over it. It's almost like people don't want to win:
Then Dominate.
Then RULE.
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)How are the octogenarians in Democratic leadership DOMINATING and RULING ?
Bless Schumer and Pelosi's hearts, but their world of polite, professional, pragmatic negotiating with a like-minded Republican party is OVER
Trump and MAGA have brought us extreme partisanship and the need to motivate dwindling voter bases
Times have changed
JustAnotherGen
(37,493 posts)And it will probably go FAR beyond what you want in terms of change.
Like most Black women I know? I'm sitting and sipping tea with my girls and enjoying it all being BURNED down.
This way we can re-make America in our image and beliefs. Amerikkka is dead -
A new day is coming. Mark me on that.
whathehell
(30,335 posts)That said, I'm curious as to what constitutes "all" of what you're enjoying "being burned down".
sheshe2
(95,669 posts)Women are known to outlive men on average.
gulliver
(13,702 posts)We need seats. We need to win elections. If there are younger candidates who want to get somewhere, they need to make themselves electable.
Ars Longa
(409 posts)and then Mainer's will decide.
However,IMO she is in for a much tougher primary fight with Graham Platner
than she and the DSCC think! I hope all can come together afterwards.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)Meiselas: What do you say to people who say while Governor Mills has been a great governor, sheâs 77 years old, and we need younger leadership?
— Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-10-14T15:30:35.908Z
Mills: Itâs a fair point⦠But I donât think I could live with myself if I didnât do everything I can to reverse whatâs going on in Washington
betsuni
(28,660 posts)Assumption (never give the benefit of the doubt, jump right in) that Olds are establishment centrists clinging to ego-power-money while Youngs have exciting new ideas no Democrat has ever thought of before, like universal health care and higher wages and more equality (excuse me for a moment,
).
AZProgressive
(29,815 posts)Instead they push "strengthening Obamacare" as a counter to universal health care but when the ACA was first passed we were told that it was a stepping stone to medical for all that we could improve on it later.
What is wrong with Graham Platner is my question? The main reason why I'm against Janet Mills is as governor she vetoed a plan to close a juvenile prison and the thinking that we need to lock kids up is outdated thinking.
betsuni
(28,660 posts)what Republicans have done to stop progress.
Skittles
(169,332 posts)I too am tired of the same old same old, I wish they would pass the baton already but right now you gotta do what you gotta do to combat fascism
she's had some work done! just look at the pics of her this past year.........
and remember she will choose the corporation's side over people's every time.
SheltieLover
(76,310 posts)carpetbagger
(5,403 posts)I appreciate what Democratic governors have done in standing up to Trump. But that doesn't necessarily translate into being an effective voice in the Senate, where the script doesn't place the politician in the role of an independent power center like a governor. Platner is promising, and he likely does as well as Mills after the first set of ads run. And Platner would be more effective at building the party, as Mills won't be in the 2032 class.
W_HAMILTON
(10,024 posts)Im sorry, after getting burned by self-proclaimed """progressives""" with little to no history of actual progressive accomplishments, I'm not too keen on supporting an unproven newcomer like that over a popular Democrat like Mills that has already proven she can win a state-wide race.
Cha
(316,516 posts)an effective vote in the Senate.
We'll see what happens
DoBW
(3,005 posts)and Bernie's "Fight the Oligharchy" tour has been potent. Platner's has good traction in his campaign. Mills' popping up is weird
Fil1957
(514 posts)Susan Collins. This sums up everything that is wrong with the Democratic party establishment. I guess they feel it's "her turn". They need to wake up and smell the coffee. And how 'bout passing the baton once in a while?
With a few notable exceptions, elderly Democratic politicians ought to get out of the way, make room for the next generation and stop engaging in these vanity projects. Haven't they heard of retirement? Isn't there more to life than working till you drop? Don't they have any outside interests like hobbies, etc.?
W_HAMILTON
(10,024 posts)I don't even think Platner had ever been elected to anything, much less being more electable than the sitting governor of his state.
The fact that Cook moved this race to a toss-up after Mills announced her candidacy -- but not after Platner announced his -- is even further proof of this.
And older Democrats could get out of the way if the younger generation would put in the effort they did and were ready to have the baton passed to.
After getting burned by Fetterman, I'm sorry, but "I support Sanders and Sanders supports me" is not a good enough reason to vote for someone.
We progressives need to vet our self-proclaimed progressive candidates better and one way to do that is by them cutting their teeth on lower office before they decide to run for one of the most important political offices in the country.
muriel_volestrangler
(105,498 posts)A poll where, once a mini-bio of each candidate was given, Platner gets a larger lead over Collins than Mills does. So he has a year to get known.
AZProgressive
(29,815 posts)I saw red flags when he wanted to stop wearing masks and send kids back to school sooner than most people. He also supported continuing Title 42 which was supposed to be a Covid policy so that alone showed he was a hypocrite.
There was also the jogger case.
Cha
(316,516 posts)I think Gov Janet Mills is One of those Notable Exceptions"..
Torchlight
(6,279 posts)And on what objective standard is that number measured on?
SpankMe
(3,656 posts)He's an Independent who caucuses with Democrats and was just elected. His term goes thru 2031 - for cripe's sake!
delisen
(7,195 posts)Torchlight
(6,279 posts)to carry out the expansion of Maine's Medicaid program, and in 2022, she green-lit Maine state supplemental budget, which included free community college for students of the class of 202-23.
I know very little about her or her state, but upon first reflection she seems a solid candidate.
Cha
(316,516 posts)Easterncedar
(5,449 posts)But I prefer Platner. Although skeptical at first, burned by hopes of Fetterman, I keep hearing good things from and about him. He is a progressive.
Cha
(316,516 posts)I prefer her over Planter.
I like her Accomplishments and her Style.
Easterncedar
(5,449 posts)With the wonderful Dr. Nirav Shah. I will always be grateful to her for appointing him.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,832 posts)Cant have a guy like Platner. Young, progressive, ready to buck the corporate system. Why would we want that?
Cha
(316,516 posts)who is 81... did ya roll your eyes at him?
There's more to be electable than being young.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,832 posts)Yeah, I roll my eyes at a lot of these people. Entrenched status quo politicians are why the Democratic Party has such low approval ratings. Among other things.
Cha
(316,516 posts)Since Gov Mills entered the Race Today it "Turned from leaning gop to a Toss Up".
She's a Popular Gov and "name recognition" for a Good Reason.
Personally from way out here on Kauai.. I don't like anyone that thinks they can win by "bashing Dems"
travelingthrulife
(4,372 posts)Not my state though. Certainly happy to see Susan gone.
Midwestern Democrat
(1,029 posts)we have paid attention when he speaks in committee, or in interviews or in town halls. ideas mean more to us and mills is just out of them.
unfortunately mills is not in any way like king.......age aside.
mainer
(12,490 posts)Janet has been great and right now she's feisty and energetic. But that age thing is an issue. I'm supporting her for now, but Graham Platner is the one getting everyone excited. I just want this primary to stay collegial, and I'm worried Platner will be too hostile.
leftstreet
(38,739 posts)...would she walk away with the primary?
And no I don't know which ones Mainers might go for
It's generally wages, healthcare, immigration, taxing billionaires, etc
Cha
(316,516 posts)Gov Mills entering the Race.. from being "Leans gop.."That's exciting to me.
Mainers Re Elected Sen Angus King last year.. who is 81 as you know.
Not in Maine but this Race has the whole Country Interested in getting a Dem Senator Elected!
IronLionZion
(50,773 posts)2026 is likely to be a blue wave for Dems considering how things are going.
We need good Dems running everywhere.
Fichefinder
(397 posts)leftstreet
(38,739 posts)Torchlight
(6,279 posts)Cha
(316,516 posts)King who is 81.
DFW
(59,706 posts)Yes, her age, her age. I get it. She's not a teenager. But you saw her TV ad. She's not Chuck Grassley, either. She is a formidable speaker who wins elections.
I saw an article about Plattner, who is touted to be her main opponent. How predictable are we gonna get, here? Collins AND the Democratic Party are "proxies for corporations and wealthy interests that have used the political system for enrichment?" Wow, it's a good thing that I'm not a Maine Democrat, as I would NOT appreciate being labeled a "proxy for corporations and wealthy interests." Do we HAVE to use these slogans for the 596th time before people get turned off and tired of hearing them?
This is still the state that elected Susan Collins and Paul Le Page. We forget that at our peril. Fine, the choir is listening. But they aren't the only Democrats voting in this primary, and they sure as hell aren't only ones voting in the General Election next year, and we need ALL of them on board, or Maine's next senator will be a Republican. THEN you get your proxy for corporations and wealthy interests. Congratulations. The "no difference" crowd can go celebrate without me.
betsuni
(28,660 posts)he was democratic socialist and the Democratic Party has no idea what New Deal policies are because corrupt blah blah blah. Again! As we have seen, this has never worked. Sounds like same Justice Democrats/Our Revolution PACs. Make it stop.
Cha
(316,516 posts)GP.
There was a Poster on here a little while ago who said he was donating to him but then he kept bashing Dems so much he stopped.
BidenRocks
(2,715 posts)I see the sentiment turn against the older folks.
First we're slow.
Then we old speak in proper English.
We write in complete understandable sentences.
Now I see the start of the purge.
Get rid of old people!
Over 70? Soylent!
Now Get Off My Lawn!
Picaro
(2,325 posts)These texts are making me crazy.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)They seem worried
Cha
(316,516 posts)Janet Mills and LMPV for Posting This!!
💙
Trueblue Texan
(4,174 posts)Boy she kicks Susan Collins' ass in this ad! Deservedly so!
Cha
(316,516 posts)to that Dictator Monster.
TY!
Jilly_in_VA
(13,786 posts)she's 79 already. If I lived in Maine, I'd probably vote for the other guy...what's his name, Graham Platzner? I've liked what he's said alrerady.
dlk
(13,100 posts)Never mind shes tough and accomplished.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)aeromanKC
(3,804 posts)Stand Up!!
liberalla
(10,788 posts)I'd gladly vote for her!
If I lived in Maine!
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)Mills is clear that she has made no promises to Chuck Schumer
Mills launches her Senate bid with âno promisesâ to Schumer | Semafor
— Subconscious Proxy (@subconsciousproxy.bsky.social) 2025-10-14T16:35:34.435Z
www.semafor.com/article/10/1...
https://www.semafor.com/article/10/14/2025/mills-launches-her-senate-bid-with-no-promises-to-schumer
If Mills makes it to the Senate by navigating a tough primary and then beating Collins, she says Schumer will need to prove hes worth her support to remain Democratic leader.
Nobody in the state of Maine has asked me about Chuck Schumer. And Ive actually met with him only once in my life, seven or eight months ago. And Ive made no promises, no commitments, to anybody running for leadership, Mills told Semafor in an interview.
My vote is not guaranteed to Senator Schumer or anybody else; theyll have to earn it, she added.
The two-term governors decision to run for the Senate seat will no doubt cheer Schumer and it instantly makes Maines campaign into one of the most important in the nation. First Mills will test whether Democrats have changed their electability calculus by taking on a crowded primary field, including 40-year-old oysterman Graham Platner, who opposes Schumer as leader.
Cha
(316,516 posts)Chuck Schumer has just a bad rap.. he does a good job in the minority but he's the "boogey man"..
Cha
(316,516 posts)him Props.. him & Rep Jeffries. :patriot
AOC: 'Republicans have been getting walloped by Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer'
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220695607
TY
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RSH
(21 posts)Graham PLATNER. He sounds great and Bernie endorsed him. That's all I need to know!!!!!!!
ALBliberal
(3,201 posts)I am very impressed. Shes a young 77. Fearless. And vows to only serve one term. She will win.
Norrrm
(3,924 posts)Susan Collins was a 'right time, right place' candidate...
She was in a three person primary race and so far back she could not even see the other two candidates' tail lights.
The millionaire candidate sponsored an investigation of the evangelist candidate who got run out of a southern state because he was boinking his twelve year old babysitter.
The millionaire denied his involvement but the public turned against both him and the evangelist, leaving Susan Collins as the sole remaining candidate.
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"I pledge that if I'm elected I will only serve two terms..."
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)Cha
(316,516 posts)North Coast Lawyer
(222 posts)The old guard of the Democratic Party have shown over and over that they are unable to adapt to the new political reality we find ourselves in. I really wish that the establishment would support and nurture our young talent -- cause:
Your old road is rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'
Cha
(316,516 posts)when Gov Mills announced her candidacy... she's a very progressive and popular governor.
Has won State wide Elections.. and She'll Fight for Mainers!
North Coast Lawyer
(222 posts)Her fight can last at maximum only a few more years.
Cha
(316,516 posts)and Sen Angus King, who is 81 and was Reelected Last Year, will be Brilliant for Maine.
North Coast Lawyer
(222 posts)But its time for the old guard to get out of the way and let younger people take the reigns.
BTW I'm 61 years old -- I know how hard it is to stand down. However, standing down is something all us old folks need to do.
America is full of great young people. We dinosaurs need to proudly facilitate their ascendance.
Cha
(316,516 posts)they have to offer.
Just because someone is young means nothing on what they can accomplish.
SomewhereInTheMiddle
(607 posts)This is an honest question. Not a slam or a strawman.
How do you identify young talent for political leadership? And what is the right level to blood them in American politics?
The only thing I know about Plantner is what I just read on Wikipedia. Sounds like an interesting guy. I admit I am biased towards military backgrounds but know they are no guarantee of leadership potential. His positions mostly seem reasonable.
But he has never stood for office and never been elected. We have no idea how he will perform in a political context. Should his introduction to elected office be the US Senate?
I think Pete B has performed at both the local and national level so I could easily support him for a Senate run. I think the same now with AOC. I could see her moving into the Senate if she could convince enough rural/non-NYC voters in New York to elect her.
For political novices like Plantner, it seems that a local office or state legislative office might be a better context in which to learn the political trade - both getting elected and actually performing the job. I think the US Senate is too high stakes and high demand for a complete novice. Even a seat in the US House would be a better starting point - somewhat lower stakes.
How can we best grow our young politicians into effective legislators and leaders?
Somehow, I don't see throwing them into the deep end is the best answer.
North Coast Lawyer
(222 posts)New talent is always peculating up. Young people like AOC and Mamdani are all over the place. Our leadership needs to stop holding them back and start facilitating their rise.
phylny
(8,791 posts)from her campaign asking for donations.
soldierant
(9,267 posts)I'm not in Maine, but if I were, my vote would go to the oyster farmer
whathehell
(30,335 posts)but since you're not in Maine, I doubt that Janet much cares.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)Morbius
(881 posts)She's old, and that's not ideal. But she fights the good fight, and right now we need every soldier we can get. I can't afford to send her any money, but she has my good wishes.
Susan Calvin
(2,397 posts)The comments are running about 9 to 1 again, and almost everybody mentions Platner.
MaineNative
(70 posts)is on my radar. He's drawing standing room only crowds at his speaking events. I hope he speaks at the Portland protest on October 18th, No Kings. The UAW just endorsed him. Check this out.
PunkinPi
(5,243 posts)Weird how no one has mentioned that Platner worked for Constellis (formerly Blackwater)...

Vogon_Glory
(10,179 posts)Susan Collins fan dance should have ended years ago.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)While Susan Collins bows down to Trump, Maine Gov. Janet Mills is fighting back and winning. She's always fought for a better future for the people of Maine, and now, she'll take that fight to the U.S. Senate. That's why we're thrilled to endorse Gov. Mills for election to the U.S. Senate today.
— EMILYs List (@emilyslist.bsky.social) 2025-10-14T13:57:43.843Z
Cha
(316,516 posts)RandySF
(80,892 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,549 posts)This will be an interesting primary contest
Link to tweet
https://www.bangordailynews.com/2025/10/17/politics/elections/former-maine-lawmaker-resigns-graham-platner-campaign/
Former state Rep. Genevieve McDonald of Stonington was one of the most prominent Maine Democrats who joined Platners campaign after a buzzy August launch saw the Sullivan oysterman and military veteran draw national attention in addition to big crowds at his town hall-style rallies. She sent her resignation letter exclusively to the Bangor Daily News.
The past week has dealt Platner, 41, the biggest test yet in his nascent campaign, and it coincided with Gov. Janet Mills joining the Democratic primary Tuesday for the chance to take on U.S. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, in 2026. McDonalds exit showed discord among the campaign that includes many progressive strategists from out of state.
CNN first reported Thursday on since-deleted posts Platner made a few years ago on Reddit that included Platner calling rural, white Americans racist and stupid and describing all police as bastards. Other old posts suggested violence is necessary to achieve social change, according to Politicos reporting.

