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tcfrogs

(2,913 posts)
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:02 AM Oct 16

I was reported to HR for using the word Negro in a perfectly appropriate context

Let me elaborate. Was chatting with a co-worker in the small cafeteria/breakroom yesterday when I was refilling my coffee. He and I are both baseball fans, and were discussing the baseball playoffs and he referenced his visit to the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Told him I hadn’t been to Cooperstown yet, but I had visited the Negro League Baseball Museum in Kansas City a few years ago. Just idle chatter and then went back to my desk.

Within an hour, received an e-mail from someone in HR requesting my presence later in her office later in the afternoon. Was absolutely floored when she informed me that a co-worker had overheard me use the word Negro and felt that was completely inappropriate. Obviously I explained the context, and the HR woman either didn’t quite understand or sympathized with the complaining associate, and immediately scheduled a meeting with both my boss and the head of HR for tomorrow (which is now today.)

Now I think this is making a mountain out of a molehill. And don’t think my boss nor the HR director (who is a personal friend) will do anything more than laugh off this innocent statement of fact that I made.

Any thoughts on how to proceed?

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I was reported to HR for using the word Negro in a perfectly appropriate context (Original Post) tcfrogs Oct 16 OP
Show HR the online site that no_hypocrisy Oct 16 #1
Precisely this - it's the name of the museum hatrack Oct 16 #2
Difficult to tell anymore tcfrogs Oct 16 #6
Way ahead of you tcfrogs Oct 16 #3
Print out a hard copy and hand it to them. Hopefully the meeting lasts 2 minutes. TheRickles Oct 16 #9
No. Print out 3 copies - ms liberty Oct 16 #13
Exactly.. mountain grammy Oct 16 #23
Or post it on the company bulletin board, assuming you have one...nt Wounded Bear Oct 16 #34
The offended person would probably consider that harassment. LisaM Oct 16 #108
HR can show it to her, that is the point. ms liberty Oct 16 #109
and at SOME point demand an apology.... democratsruletheday Oct 16 #14
this!!! Celerity Oct 16 #35
Use uninformed delicate flower Aviation Pro Oct 16 #41
When I was in high school, back in the Bronze Age, a very naive and foolishly 'helpful' classmate Attilatheblond Oct 16 #53
I guarantee that student grew up and voted for Trump three times. yardwork Oct 16 #58
This was in Orange County, Ca, and her family were rigerous about their 'traditional bible' church attendence Attilatheblond Oct 16 #63
Your post brought back unpleasant memories of that type of "sweet" girl. yardwork Oct 16 #64
Would biracials be chocolate marshmellows? flor-de-jasmim Oct 16 #77
LOL Throw in a couple Hispanics and ya got s'mores! Attilatheblond Oct 16 #80
i hate these people who go behind my back and whine to someone else and dont apologise to me AllaN01Bear Oct 16 #65
How would they feel BonnieJW Oct 16 #72
It is our history Bluetus Oct 16 #69
I knew someone who got in trouble for saying, "frijoles negros." FSogol Oct 16 #4
No way John Coktosten Oct 16 #21
They Voted For Cantaloupe Caligula The Corpulent... GB_RN Oct 16 #26
Haha John Coktosten Oct 16 #27
Thanks! GB_RN Oct 16 #31
Having someone get offended when you say "frijoles negros" is the least of your worries today whopis01 Oct 16 #29
I went to a dentist years ago who was a MAGA type. He was whining about all the 'illegals' travelingthrulife Oct 16 #42
Goes to show you stupid people can get advanced degrees. nt Wednesdays Oct 16 #73
It's a furrin' language. CanonRay Oct 16 #66
There should be no problem, as long as they pronounce it "NAY-gross" JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 16 #37
OK, here's what I'd do. ananda Oct 16 #5
It Was The Name Of The League! ProfessorGAC Oct 16 #7
Even as recently as the early 1970's tcfrogs Oct 16 #8
This is ForgedCrank Oct 16 #12
Yes - exactly. And it won't end anytime soon. whopis01 Oct 16 #33
The color Black in Spanish is Negro (soft e like Negative, not hard e like Knee) ... aggiesal Oct 16 #46
Exactly, it's pronounced "nehgro" neh as in meh with a slight roll to the gr ms liberty Oct 16 #87
I'm really sorry this is happening to you. yardwork Oct 16 #10
I would want HR to formally educate the snitch Tanuki Oct 16 #68
Any escalation will probably hurt the OP more. yardwork Oct 16 #81
I met W James Cobbin while doing a job at his museum in Youngstown Orrex Oct 16 #11
Continue to tell the story as it happened. barbtries Oct 16 #15
I would tell the that, since this is an issue, all employees need to have a list created. OldBaldy1701E Oct 16 #16
Or make it fun. Ask them to google "Geddy Lee and baseball" ms liberty Oct 16 #17
Get the friend you were chatting to to confirm, either to the HR person or in writing, that it was the museum name muriel_volestrangler Oct 16 #18
Attorney - Get An Attorney Now - You're Being Targeted And Attacked MayReasonRule Oct 16 #19
Geddy Lee Tadams01KC Oct 16 #20
How old is the person who complained about this? 3catwoman3 Oct 16 #38
Wow. I would be giddy about that, particularly now ms liberty Oct 16 #97
Interesting FHRRK Oct 16 #22
Just tell them you didn't realize a trip to KC was so controversial. xmas74 Oct 16 #24
For God's sake, don't tell them what NAACP stands for. nt chowmama Oct 16 #25
I was just thinking the same thing. So silly Callie1979 Oct 16 #43
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People ... aggiesal Oct 16 #57
The implication is that the person who got yorkster Oct 16 #70
Similar, because referring to a black person as "colored" is generally unacceptable in the same way "negro" is. nt thesquanderer Oct 16 #71
On top of all that, Black people actually perferred to be called Black. (This is based on the movie Red Tails) ... aggiesal Oct 16 #92
Depends though Mosby Oct 16 #96
Give them a link to the Negro Leagues malaise Oct 16 #28
Have a screen shot of their website with the title and logo of the museum JT45242 Oct 16 #30
I was reported for using "SNAFU" in an email Ponietz Oct 16 #32
Situation Normal, all fouled up... Wounded Bear Oct 16 #36
Wait til they learn "niggardly" kiri Oct 16 #39
I have stopped using that word because it's too easily misunderstood. yardwork Oct 16 #47
Years ago I used the word "niggardly" during a meeting to describe a low-ball settlement offer. sop Oct 16 #105
Ask if you should stop donating ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 16 #40
Ask for a copy of the company policy that forbids the word n/t Shrek Oct 16 #44
Poor HR gulliver Oct 16 #45
I agree that the lying snitch is not to be trusted. yardwork Oct 16 #49
THIS is the kind of nonsense the RW loves to point out. Callie1979 Oct 16 #48
The RW causes this kind of situation more often than not. yardwork Oct 16 #51
You might keep your mind open to the possibility.... 70sEraVet Oct 16 #50
Snitching to HR is never a good faith move. yardwork Oct 16 #54
I guess I always worked for smaller companies. 70sEraVet Oct 16 #67
Lie down on the floor, kick your feet, rip your clothes, and cry like a baby. hay rick Oct 16 #52
Whatever happens, please tell us about the outcome rurallib Oct 16 #55
My husband and I attended a function several years ago at this museum. mommymarine2003 Oct 16 #56
Many moons ago, a member of the Nixon Whitehouse 3Hotdogs Oct 16 #59
it was preferred by my community in my own time bigtree Oct 16 #60
Ignorance angrychair Oct 16 #61
Taken out of context "Negro" is colonial stollen Oct 16 #62
It sounds like you have an overactive co-worker. hamsterjill Oct 16 #74
Sounds like you have an Ass Kissing Republican coworker. Emile Oct 16 #75
I would definitely insist on an apology Grim Chieftain Oct 16 #76
I would just insist that they never get to mention it again. Iggo Oct 16 #88
Simple - Have the website of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum cued up on your phone. flashman13 Oct 16 #78
examples DAML Oct 16 #79
I remember their commercials from Saturday morning cartoons questionseverything Oct 16 #106
Sort of on-topic but not really Shrek Oct 16 #82
That's funny. I was reported here for something kind of like that (but not really.) Iggo Oct 16 #83
Outrage Factory hard at work at your place of employment. n/t flvegan Oct 16 #84
Counterclaim that the displayed denial of a named business denotes a racism against blacks. Festivito Oct 16 #85
Go to the web SocialDemocrat61 Oct 16 #86
Several years ago when I was still working, I was miffed about something that happened. MIButterfly Oct 16 #89
The complainant was malicious Bobstandard Oct 16 #90
There are no facts, only interpretations. Nietzsche Ping Tung Oct 16 #91
Ask everyone at the meeting if they know what NAACP stands for. johnp3907 Oct 16 #93
Cool story. Mosby Oct 16 #94
There seems to be some confusion in this thread. And... LAS14 Oct 16 #95
Cool story! Mysterian Oct 16 #98
What a cool story! obamanut2012 Oct 16 #99
I am so tired of stupid people who can't mind their own d*** business FoxNewsSucks Oct 16 #100
Get a lawyer, get a lawyer, document everything, get a lawyer, and document everything. unblock Oct 16 #101
is there an official record of this, er, UTTER NONSENSE Skittles Oct 16 #102
Show up with an attorney. Just like talking to the cops. Hotler Oct 16 #103
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It was called the Negro League and is still called the Negro League. Vinca Oct 16 #104
People are idiots. I don't miss the days of someone mishearing something that was not said to them. dem4decades Oct 16 #107
My company's HR, now called "People", is the most overhead-iest of all overhead... Mark.b2 Oct 16 #110

hatrack

(64,273 posts)
2. Precisely this - it's the name of the museum
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:08 AM
Oct 16

I hope they're not too stupid to understand that.

ms liberty

(10,981 posts)
13. No. Print out 3 copies -
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:53 AM
Oct 16

One for the meeting. One to go in your personnel folder with the complaint. The final one is for them to give to the offended person, so they will be more informed.

LisaM

(29,496 posts)
108. The offended person would probably consider that harassment.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 06:33 PM
Oct 16

I would let HR deal with her. It's best to stay away from toxic people at work.

democratsruletheday

(1,812 posts)
14. and at SOME point demand an apology....
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:55 AM
Oct 16

don't wanna use reich wing terms like snowflake but the ignoramus who reported this is a Grade A wimp IMO

Attilatheblond

(8,320 posts)
53. When I was in high school, back in the Bronze Age, a very naive and foolishly 'helpful' classmate
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:19 AM
Oct 16

insisted we, as a nation, should replace the word 'negro' with, and I kid you not, "Chocolate Americans". She figured that term would make those of a darker color seem less threatening to white people. This was in the late 60s and people of color were still fighting POLITICALLY for basic rights taken for granted by Marsh-mellow People.

Attilatheblond

(8,320 posts)
63. This was in Orange County, Ca, and her family were rigerous about their 'traditional bible' church attendence
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:33 AM
Oct 16

It is a safe bet you are correct.

yardwork

(68,984 posts)
64. Your post brought back unpleasant memories of that type of "sweet" girl.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:34 AM
Oct 16

Ick. Sickly sweet smiles and rotten inside.

AllaN01Bear

(28,618 posts)
65. i hate these people who go behind my back and whine to someone else and dont apologise to me
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:35 AM
Oct 16

rather than a ooral one a written one shnould suffice .

BonnieJW

(3,081 posts)
72. How would they feel
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:52 AM
Oct 16

if you remind them that NAACP stands for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People? Will they be offended by the term colored people?

Bluetus

(2,320 posts)
69. It is our history
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:44 AM
Oct 16

Last edited Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:51 AM - Edit history (1)

It is not "woke" to whitewash our history.

The Negro Leagues is a story of the racism that has been the foundation of this society from the beginning (long before the Declaration of Independence, and that racism continues unabated today.

And it is also the story of perseverance with black people finding ways to achieve even in the face of such oppression.

Just curious who reported this. I doubt it was a black person,. And I doubt it was a MAGA person, unless they were just trying to get a lib in trouble, but they aren't usually that clever. My guess it was a person who thought they were enlightened and was doing good work by suppressing the factual discussion of our history.

GB_RN

(3,510 posts)
31. Thanks!
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:48 AM
Oct 16

It’s primo, IMHO😁.

I already had “Caligula” in my head due to his autocratic tendencies (and the fact that Caligula was also…kinda crazy pants...made it a perfect fit). “Corpulent”, well, that one is self explanatory and was a natural extension. Took me a couple minutes though, to come up with another name for orange that would work with Caligula the Corpulent.

whopis01

(3,908 posts)
29. Having someone get offended when you say "frijoles negros" is the least of your worries today
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:46 AM
Oct 16

After the Supreme Court ruling last month, speaking Spanish can be used by ICE as justification to stop, detain, and question you.

That's how stupid people are today.

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)
42. I went to a dentist years ago who was a MAGA type. He was whining about all the 'illegals'
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:06 AM
Oct 16

using the emergency rooms for free.
When my mouth was returned to me I asked how he knew they were here illegally. He said, "Because they were speaking Spanish."

Definitely coming.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,599 posts)
37. There should be no problem, as long as they pronounce it "NAY-gross"
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:57 AM
Oct 16

And, just for laughs, pronounce the "J" like an "H". just habling.

ananda

(34,461 posts)
5. OK, here's what I'd do.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:13 AM
Oct 16

I'd apologize for the use of the word "Negro"
which is the official title of the museum.

Then I would say that I would write a letter
to the museum asking them to change it.

That will help them put it in perspective.

And you really don't have to do any of those things.

ProfessorGAC

(75,864 posts)
7. It Was The Name Of The League!
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:15 AM
Oct 16

Because that was considered the polite term in the 1930s.
In fact, the league was founded by Rube Foster (thank you to Ken Burns), who was black, and he named it that.
Completely appropriate usage & I hope your management sees it that way.

tcfrogs

(2,913 posts)
8. Even as recently as the early 1970's
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:29 AM
Oct 16

The term Negro was routinely used in print and on TV broadcasts. It was the generally acceptable media terminology.

ForgedCrank

(3,029 posts)
12. This is
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:47 AM
Oct 16

the consequence of racist a-holes abusing language. That is technically the proper descriptor, but it can no longer be used used due to certain types applying it in a hateful way. I'm just old enough where my brain still considers that to be the respectful word to use, and I have to make myself use "Black" because that used to be more out of line and it makes me mildly uncomfortable using it. It used to even be on all of the government forms. I guess it could also be a regional thing.
In the end, I'm Ok using whatever someone wants to be referred as, but it's a shame someone got into trouble for it all because of how we got to this point.

whopis01

(3,908 posts)
33. Yes - exactly. And it won't end anytime soon.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:51 AM
Oct 16

Whatever word is used to describe an ethnic group (even a word chosen by that group) will eventually be turned into a slur by racist a-holes. Then we won't be able to use that word any more and a new one will be chosen and the cycle will repeat.

Maybe someday people will realize that words themselves are not what is actually causing the problem. Or realize that no matter what word you use to describe an ethnic group, a racist a-hole is still going to be a racist a-hole about it.

aggiesal

(10,545 posts)
46. The color Black in Spanish is Negro (soft e like Negative, not hard e like Knee) ...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:09 AM
Oct 16

When slave ships departed from Africa, their fist stops were either Dominican Republic or Cuba, both Spanish speaking countries. They referred to the slaves as Los Negros.
The word got bastardize by English speaking people in the U.S.
People don't usually try to figure out the origins of words.

ms liberty

(10,981 posts)
87. Exactly, it's pronounced "nehgro" neh as in meh with a slight roll to the gr
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:53 AM
Oct 16

Then white people changed the pronunciation to nee-gro, but it was still considered polite, as was "colored person" in that time. Then times changed and most of us changed with it. Unfortunately, bigotry, racism, misogyny and classism are all harder to eradicate than we all thought. I'm hoping this is it's last extinction burst that we're currently experiencing.

yardwork

(68,984 posts)
10. I'm really sorry this is happening to you.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:40 AM
Oct 16

Along with sharing the name and website of the museum, I would also point out, very calmly, that if you were a racist it is hardly likely that you would have made a trip to visit this museum.

During the HR meeting I suggest being very calm and pleasant. Say that you understand that whomever reported you just wanted to make sure it is a fair and unbiased workplace. Say you appreciate working in a place that cares about its employees, and that you appreciate the opportunity to explain. Keep the mood light and pleasant.

Then, after the meeting, quietly try to find out whoever reported you and avoid them from now on. Don't sit near them in the lunchroom. Avoid being alone with them. Despite what you say to HR, that coworker is not to be trusted.

Tanuki

(16,304 posts)
68. I would want HR to formally educate the snitch
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:41 AM
Oct 16

in no uncertain terms. I would be concerned that if there is any ambiguity, and the snitch is not told that they were in the wrong, they will go around badmouthing our OP as a racist and damaging their professional reputation and standing in the workplace.

yardwork

(68,984 posts)
81. Any escalation will probably hurt the OP more.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:21 AM
Oct 16

Once a formal complaint is made to HR it becomes a fairly serious issue that can take on a life of its own.

The lying snitch may lie more. If HR starts to think there is "a personality conflict" between the two the OP could end up being fired or retaliated against in other ways.

The best way to neutralize the situation is for OP to act very calm, pleasant, reasonable to HR and management.

And watch their back around the untrustworthy snitch. Never be alone with them, never send an email without a cc to a trusted colleague or manager, etc.

Orrex

(66,691 posts)
11. I met W James Cobbin while doing a job at his museum in Youngstown
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:47 AM
Oct 16

This was a year or two before the Negro League was formally absorbed into the MLB.

I know very little about sports, so I didn't even realize who he was until I saw an old pic of him in uniform. One of my favorite celebrity encounters.

That place was packed with historical articles and gear, and it displayed "Negro League" a dozen times on every wall. I hope your sensitive coworker doesn't stumble into this offensive setting!

barbtries

(31,139 posts)
15. Continue to tell the story as it happened.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:56 AM
Oct 16

Maybe download a brochure from the museum. Then maybe they'll get it.

context is everything.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,225 posts)
16. I would tell the that, since this is an issue, all employees need to have a list created.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:56 AM
Oct 16

That way, there is no question as to what is and is not appropriate.

(The resulting debate just might shut down your company for a day or two. Trying to please everyone over something that will never please everyone can be... disrupting.)

ms liberty

(10,981 posts)
17. Or make it fun. Ask them to google "Geddy Lee and baseball"
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:57 AM
Oct 16

They're going to get PAGES of articles, video/audio and phots of rock legend Geddy Lee and his awesome gift to the NLBM.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,589 posts)
18. Get the friend you were chatting to to confirm, either to the HR person or in writing, that it was the museum name
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 07:59 AM
Oct 16

you mentioned. That way, it's not just a "accounts differ" scenario of the context.

MayReasonRule

(4,015 posts)
19. Attorney - Get An Attorney Now - You're Being Targeted And Attacked
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:04 AM
Oct 16

Dang y'all I really hate you're going through this needless bullshit.

Tadams01KC

(54 posts)
20. Geddy Lee
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:08 AM
Oct 16

I was at the Negro Leagues Baseball Musuem in KC on Saturday for a book signing with Geddy Lee of the band Rush. He was signing his new book 72 Stories about baseball collecting. Geddy has donated hundreds of items to the Museum.

3catwoman3

(28,610 posts)
38. How old is the person who complained about this?
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:57 AM
Oct 16

The level of ignorance in this country is pathetic.

ms liberty

(10,981 posts)
97. Wow. I would be giddy about that, particularly now
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 01:26 PM
Oct 16

When he and Lerxst have just announced they've hired the new chick (Anika Nilles) to sit in for the Professor. How cool for you!

I'm excited about them bringing in Anika. All the Rush sites have a bunch of men sputtering with outrage, because they always thought the guys were all three just like them.

The only female drummer those dopes would have ever accepted was probably Olivia, but she's too young still and would she really want to have to walk in her dad's footsteps right outta the box?

FHRRK

(1,358 posts)
22. Interesting
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:12 AM
Oct 16

I think my kids, 32 and 28, know the history but perhaps not. Guessing many under 40 may have limited knowledge of baseball segregation.

xmas74

(30,025 posts)
24. Just tell them you didn't realize a trip to KC was so controversial.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:24 AM
Oct 16

And about our wonderful museum here in KC. Include not just the museum but the entire 18th and Vine experience including the Gem Theatre. Talk about our bbq. Make them realize this is all a real place, it's famous in KC and that it's included regularly in discussions about visiting KC.

Hell, the Savannah Bananas are the big thing in baseball at the moment and they just added a new team for 2026, the Indianapolis Clowns. Their inaugural game with the league is in KC. Why? Because they were a member of the Negro League. Hank Aaron played for them and they were also the first team to sign a woman player to a long term contract and not immediately end it-back in the early 50s.

(Fingers crossed I get picked off the wait list for the game!)

It's hard to talk about baseball history without mentioning the Negro League.

aggiesal

(10,545 posts)
57. National Association for the Advancement of Colored People ...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:21 AM
Oct 16

has no reference to the word Negro.
Am I missing something?

yorkster

(3,687 posts)
70. The implication is that the person who got
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:45 AM
Oct 16

upset about hearing Negro League will no doubt have the same reaction to hearing the words Colored People.
In both instances, of course these are the actual names of the organizations.

thesquanderer

(12,903 posts)
71. Similar, because referring to a black person as "colored" is generally unacceptable in the same way "negro" is. nt
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:50 AM
Oct 16

aggiesal

(10,545 posts)
92. On top of all that, Black people actually perferred to be called Black. (This is based on the movie Red Tails) ...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 11:44 AM
Oct 16

Or Negro (Nehgrrro) in Spanish. Go figure

JT45242

(3,836 posts)
30. Have a screen shot of their website with the title and logo of the museum
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:46 AM
Oct 16

It's an amazing experience and they were called the Negro Leagues and that is the name of the museum.

One of the best museum experiences for a family vacation was going to the negro league museum and the jazz museum with the family. Both sons played in jazz bands in school and the entire day rivaled the Field museum or the museum of science and industry for long term impact on my sons.



kiri

(966 posts)
39. Wait til they learn "niggardly"
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:00 AM
Oct 16

A perfectly good English word................nothing to do with negro, n*g*r. The lack of education will do us all in.



yardwork

(68,984 posts)
47. I have stopped using that word because it's too easily misunderstood.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:10 AM
Oct 16

That's fine. It's an old fashioned word and it's just to similar to a common slur.

But this situation is completely different.

sop

(17,491 posts)
105. Years ago I used the word "niggardly" during a meeting to describe a low-ball settlement offer.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:37 PM
Oct 16

Predictably, someone took offense. As they say on the interwebs: NSFW.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,599 posts)
40. Ask if you should stop donating ...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:02 AM
Oct 16

... to the United Negro College Fund.

And maybe buy the HR person a book for Christmas:

Shrek

(4,390 posts)
44. Ask for a copy of the company policy that forbids the word n/t
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:07 AM
Oct 16

Last edited Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:01 AM - Edit history (1)

gulliver

(13,722 posts)
45. Poor HR
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:08 AM
Oct 16

I'll bet if you asked HR people, most of them would rather not do thought policing as part of their job. (And the ones who do want to do it are probably the last ones you want doing it.)

I'll just put in my two cents. The person who reported you should be fired or, at a minimum, have something entered into his or her file. They are either not a good team player or, worse, a race Karen. You don't snitch on somebody as a racist unless you're damned sure you have a case. The person who reported you obviously had no case. They don't belong on a team that needs to work together in peace and professionalism.

yardwork

(68,984 posts)
49. I agree that the lying snitch is not to be trusted.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:13 AM
Oct 16

However, the OP is in a vulnerable position and the best way out of it is to come across as very calm, pleasant, and reasonable. Demanding that the coworker be identified or punished will escalate the situation.

The best approach is for OP to figure out who the snitch is and never be alone with them at any time. Meetings should always include another trusted person. Email exchanges should always include another cc. Etc. just do this quietly.

Callie1979

(1,155 posts)
48. THIS is the kind of nonsense the RW loves to point out.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:11 AM
Oct 16

I remember several years ago a student filed a complaint that a professor used the word "niggardly"
He thought it was a racist word when its actually nothing of the sort.

yardwork

(68,984 posts)
51. The RW causes this kind of situation more often than not.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:15 AM
Oct 16

The snitch could just as easily be a MAGA trying to start trouble. Very likely the snitch is jealous or resentful of OP and saw a way to cause trouble.

A sincere nice person would have approached OP directly. Running to HR is the sign of an asshole.

70sEraVet

(5,252 posts)
50. You might keep your mind open to the possibility....
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:14 AM
Oct 16

that the person who overheard you, either didn't hear much of your conversation or didn't understand it. They may have acted in good faith.
Now, why the HR person decided to push it after you had explained, well, that's another matter. Perhaps someone is trying to justify their position in the company.
Good luck.

yardwork

(68,984 posts)
54. Snitching to HR is never a good faith move.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:19 AM
Oct 16

A nice person who was genuinely concerned would have approached the OP or brought the issue to the attention of their manager. Tattling to HR is not a sincere or kind move.

Ask yourself what you would do if you heard a coworker say something you thought was racist. Would you go directly to HR? I would never do that as a first move.

70sEraVet

(5,252 posts)
67. I guess I always worked for smaller companies.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:36 AM
Oct 16

There wasn't a dedicated 'HR' -- just some manager who was assigned to do double duty.
So, I withdraw my advice.

hay rick

(9,365 posts)
52. Lie down on the floor, kick your feet, rip your clothes, and cry like a baby.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:19 AM
Oct 16

Two sad things about this story- the trouble-seeking snitch and the context-blind HR person. If I was the HR director I would be upset.

rurallib

(64,557 posts)
55. Whatever happens, please tell us about the outcome
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:20 AM
Oct 16

Most of us are rather dumb founded by such a silly complaint. But we want to hear what the HR types are going to do.

mommymarine2003

(350 posts)
56. My husband and I attended a function several years ago at this museum.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:20 AM
Oct 16

My husband is a retired city manager. Several years ago, the International City Manager's Conference (ICMA) was held in Kansas City. One of the official functions we attended was held at this museum. We really enjoyed learning about this part of American history. If the use of the word "negro" is so offensive, then I would expect that the city of Kansas City would not have held anything in this museum. Instead, they showcased it. The city is proud of this facility with the appropriate name.

I hope everything goes all right for you today.

3Hotdogs

(15,044 posts)
59. Many moons ago, a member of the Nixon Whitehouse
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:22 AM
Oct 16

was called out for using the word, niggardly.

It is in several dictionaries.

bigtree

(93,394 posts)
60. it was preferred by my community in my own time
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:24 AM
Oct 16

...it's on my birth certificate,

The real problem is in how the word was slurred, like LBJ saying 'nigra' in a recorded telephone conversation about hiring a young Carl Rowan.

angrychair

(11,709 posts)
61. Ignorance
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:27 AM
Oct 16

It's the ignorance of our history that is killing us. This is symbolic of the ignorance of our history and the lived experience of people that are still alive today.

When we lose connection to our history, we loose connection to the who, what and why things are the way they are and how we got here and why it matters now.

stollen

(1,046 posts)
62. Taken out of context "Negro" is colonial
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:30 AM
Oct 16

not racist. Same for "oriental." We should say "Asian." But we don't say "The Asian Express." Depends on the context.

It's a shame the ignorance about the Black Leagues.

hamsterjill

(17,060 posts)
74. It sounds like you have an overactive co-worker.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 09:58 AM
Oct 16

This is absurd. As suggested many times above, show that this is the actual name of the museum and demand an apology.

I'd be wondering who it was who complained and why they reported. Maybe someone is carrying a grudge over more than just overhearing a conversation.

Grim Chieftain

(1,271 posts)
76. I would definitely insist on an apology
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:03 AM
Oct 16

from all concerned. It almost verges on harassment. You were put through undue stress for no valid reason.

I am so sorry you were put through this. God, we're living in insane times.

Iggo

(49,662 posts)
88. I would just insist that they never get to mention it again.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 11:03 AM
Oct 16

Then I’d look at ‘em hard whenever I walked by them.

Cause I’m like that.

flashman13

(2,049 posts)
78. Simple - Have the website of the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum cued up on your phone.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:08 AM
Oct 16

I checked it out. That is the name of the museum. It has Negro in it. If Negro is OK with the people which the museum is paying homage to, it should be OK with your fellow employees and your seriously uninformed HR person.

questionseverything

(11,585 posts)
106. I remember their commercials from Saturday morning cartoons
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:44 PM
Oct 16

“ a mind is a terrible thing to waste “

Iggo

(49,662 posts)
83. That's funny. I was reported here for something kind of like that (but not really.)
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:24 AM
Oct 16

I used a phrase I had always used coming up that I got from my black buddies when they were describing to me how something bothers them or is a problem for them even though it might not seem to me like it would be because things are different for me. It was kind of a part of my lessons on privilege, although I didn’t call it that back in those days. I had never had a problem using that phrase until I used it here. I learned something that day. Now I don’t use it at all unless I’m talking about that specific incident. (And NEVER here, even if that’s what I’m talking about…lol.) I ain’t mad about it, though. I’ll just leave it in the past where it belongs.

So you see it’s not really the same thing, other than their both being fine examples of knee-jerk white guilt in action.

Peace! ✌️

Festivito

(13,853 posts)
85. Counterclaim that the displayed denial of a named business denotes a racism against blacks.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 10:35 AM
Oct 16

Your use of a named business offers a positive view on a people in this case black people.

Your coworker is trying to deny positive references to blacks, even to deny their existence.

MIButterfly

(2,121 posts)
89. Several years ago when I was still working, I was miffed about something that happened.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 11:18 AM
Oct 16

I was walking past a co-worker's desk and I said "God damn it!" About an hour or so later, she came to my desk and said, very softly, so nobody else would hear, "I was offended by what you said." I felt terrible. Tears almost came to my eyes. I never wanted to offend anybody. I said I was sorry and I meant it. Later on, when I was telling my mother what happened, she said "That's the way adults handle things." She didn't go to the director of the department; she didn't go to HR; she came directly to me and I didn't have to look at everybody wondering if they were the person who complained about me behind my back.

And I made sure I never said anything like that aloud again.

Bobstandard

(2,185 posts)
90. The complainant was malicious
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 11:32 AM
Oct 16

Knowing how too many people are in the workplace I think there’s a good chance whoever made the complaint did do maliciously. Since further advancement in the company may now be proscribed, this person has caused the OP damage. If the meeting goes badly I’d use that phrase and suggest that the matter won’t end there.

Since the HR person escalated after the perfectly reasonable explanation I’m guessing this doesn’t go well. I hope OP keeps us posted.

Ping Tung

(4,144 posts)
91. There are no facts, only interpretations. Nietzsche
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 11:42 AM
Oct 16

Everything is subjective and relative. Context helps resolve the dilemma of propriety.

LAS14

(15,460 posts)
95. There seems to be some confusion in this thread. And...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 12:22 PM
Oct 16

....I wasn't sure either.

Were you reported because someone thought you were being racist and should have used Black or something?

Or were you reported because someone thought you were somehow espousing DEI principles?

FoxNewsSucks

(11,503 posts)
100. I am so tired of stupid people who can't mind their own d*** business
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:14 PM
Oct 16

Being able to easily meddle and cause so much problem for other people

unblock

(55,935 posts)
101. Get a lawyer, get a lawyer, document everything, get a lawyer, and document everything.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:21 PM
Oct 16

I cannot stress this enough.

It's always more complicated than just the one nominal issue. In many cases, the nominal issue is just the pretext for whatever the real issue is.

It's always more complicated..

Get a lawyer.

Hotler

(13,738 posts)
103. Show up with an attorney. Just like talking to the cops.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:23 PM
Oct 16

Say and sign nothing unless you have an attorney present.
Best of luck

Vinca

(53,369 posts)
104. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It was called the Negro League and is still called the Negro League.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 02:29 PM
Oct 16

dem4decades

(13,706 posts)
107. People are idiots. I don't miss the days of someone mishearing something that was not said to them.
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 05:11 PM
Oct 16

And reporting it to HR.

Mark.b2

(757 posts)
110. My company's HR, now called "People", is the most overhead-iest of all overhead...
Thu Oct 16, 2025, 08:29 PM
Oct 16

functions in the whole damn company. They contribute little but cost to the bottom line and do their damnedest to insert themselves daily into those of us running the business. Every day, there’s at least one email about “employee resource groups”, the start of some component of the months long evaluation process, talent reviews, policy updates, required manager training, open enrollment, nine-box assessments, leadership training micro-session, and on and on. And I rarely hear from the same person. It’s always someone with yet a different “sandbox.”

I long for the days of when you’d hear from “Personnel” a couple times a year for employee evals and open enrollment.

I’d probably lose my you-know-what if I received a call from HR like you did. HR should have dealt with the busy-body, thin-skinned co-worker directly rather than drag you in.

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