Brewers fan loses jobs after being named by internet as spectator saying 'Call ICE' on Dodgers fan

[edbermac]

A Milwaukee Brewers fan lost two jobs after social media footage showed her saying she was going to “Call ICE” on a Latino Dodgers fan during a playoff game.

A video of the encounter captured Shannon Kobylarczyk, sporting yellow and navy Brewers gear, at the playoffs game in Milwaukee Tuesday night yelling at a Los Angeles Dodgers fan, Ricardo Fosado, who filmed the incident. The Independent reached out to a number linked to Kobylarczyk for comment.

Kobylarczyk then looked at Fosado and yelled: “Real men drink beer, p***y!” She then tapped the man in front of her and said: “You know what, let’s call ICE.” Fosado replied: “Call ICE. Call ICE. I’m a U.S. citizen, war veteran, baby girl. War veteran, two wars. ICE is not gonna do nothing to me. Good luck.”

He is a U.S. citizen of Mexican heritage who served in the U.S. Navy from 2001 to 2005, he told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

Kobylarczyk later reported him to the stadium’s security and he was escorted out of the building, he told the outlet.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/brewers-fan-loses-jobs-internet-152731967.html

She was fired from ManPowerGroup and also resigned from a board of directors role she held with Make-A-Wish Wisconsin.

What a maroon.

[Ocelot II]

1. She's even got the "Karen" haircut!

[ECL213]

11. LOL, I was just going to say the haircut is on point!

[Grokenstein]

19. And a bad case of Sarah Palin Face.

[leftstreet]

2. Why was he escorted out of the building?

Article doesn't say

[dem4decades]

3. Yeah, it's he suing them too i hope.

[Celerity]

7. Milwaukee added some further context, saying that the Milwaukee Police Department dealt with Fosado for disorderly

conduct and public intoxication. The Brewers added that both Fasado and Kobylaczyk have been banned by the ballpark. "For these reasons and in accordance with our Guest Code of Conduct specific to ejections and physical confrontations, both fans are being notified that they are not allowed to return to the ballpark for future events."

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/who-shannon-kobylarczyk-brewers-fan-fired-job-call-ice/9400c29d659281a3f741ebdf

[leftstreet]

14. Thanks for finding that

I figured drunk and disorderly for both of 'em

[Oeditpus Rex]

36. It says for "disorderly conduct and public intoxication'

He must've done some other stuff. I saw no "disorderly conduct" in the video, and at least 10 percent of people at a ball game are publicly intoxicated.

[wcmagumba]

4. She seems nice...

[Prairie Gates]

5. Yeesh...enough already with the firings

Enough.

This whole idiotic "Let's get people fired" shit is part of the reason we're in this mess. Nothing drove mode3rates to MAGA like the self-satisfied doxxing of the last ten years.

Basta. It's enough.

[intheflow]

9. Fuck around and find out - but get sympathy for losing your job because you can't behave in public?

[Swede]

10. FAFO.

Fuck them all.

[Raven123]

18. Got any evidence to support that statement?

Personally I would not want someone who behaves like her working with me or for me.

[live love laugh]

20. Nope. They don't.

[ZZenith]

32. Fuck. That.

Public shunning is one of the few effective tools left.

[PatSeg]

35. Even Fosado felt that was an overreaction

"I don't think it was like horrible or something that should get her fired. I feel bad for her," Fosado told the outlet. "We cannot be judged on one mistake and a lot of emotions were involved. It was just hurt feelings, nobody physically hurt anybody."

I don't know what was the right response, but perhaps she could have been counseled and put on probation. Her behavior was abhorrent and I'm not making excuses for her, but I agree the whole firing people over things done and said outside of work has gotten out of hand these days. Meanwhile, the public humiliation should really leave a stain on her.

[Prairie Gates]

38. Agreed

[Midwestern Democrat]

63. It's pure cowardice on the part of employers - the mature and correct thing to do is to simply not give into the mob

- within a week, they'll move on the next poutrage du jour and this whole thing will be forgotten about - instead the employers take the position "I can't put up with one single week of criticism" and do the nuclear option - termination.

[usedtobedemgurl]

66. I don't know. Maybe the company decided racism is not something they value?

She did not just all him a name, like dummy. What this wo.an did was racist and threatened the life of another. If she called ICE, he could have been detained, even disappeared. Some folks are living on the edge. This could have cost him his job, he may habe Bern transported to another country, he may habe lost enough job money that he could become homeless. Maybe he is the only bread winner in the family. Maybe his wife and kids end up on the street. This is how vindictive she was and she did not care! She saw the color of his skin and decided she would get in no trouble be size she was a veteran. She threatened a man! It does not seem o er the top for a non bracket employer to see her vindictiveness and think this is a shitty employee we do not want to represent our company? What she did cannot be overstated!

[IbogaProject]

72. Both her jobs are public facing

They are within their rights to fire her. Yes political firings are a slippery slope, but she was fired for Racism. So even if the GOP is racist she wasn't fired for her politics alone.

[usedtobedemgurl]

81. Yeah, you and i are in disagreement with the person I rep!ied to.

[PatSeg]

67. Yes, immediately caving into public pressure

without due deliberation isn't mature even if they reflect our own beliefs and ideals. The same kind of employers could just as easily give into MAGA pressure.

Personally, I think her behavior and attitude were outrageous and should be exposed, but not that she should necessarily be fired unless of course her work behavior warrants it.

[Lucky Luciano]

42. You're wrong I think, but I get where you're coming from.

The cancels that were toxic for us were more like the situations where you said something on Twitter 12 years ago at the age of 16 or something and you get zapped for that. Or you made an off color joke a long time ago and now you’re cancelled….or someone found a black face costume worn 35 years ago while drunk at some frat party.

This lady is different. She’s an in your face racist yesterday. She can go.

[More_Cowbell]

44. People have been KILLED by ICE

And other people have been put into dangerous situations with police.

In my opinion, it won't be "enough" until people stop using their privilege to endanger others.

I don't agree with your "moderates were driven to MAGA by social media" theory.

[soldierant]

48. If an employer wants to let an employee go

because they cannot tolerate his or her attitude - and if iit is a "eight to work" state, that is their decision. Whether you or I agree with it or not.

If there's a union, or some legal protection, that's another matter.

[spooky3]

78. You mean "employment at will"--"right to work" refers to

Union security provisions.

[LearnedHand]

49. You want someone like her representing the local Make a Wish foundation?

[Gore1FL]

53. I submit, it depends on the level of or type of employment.

Board-of-Directors probably fall into the "We need to distance ourself" category than J. Average Worker. Given the other job she was fired from was with an HR-ish company, ManPowerGroup, that finds and hires people for other companies. I can see the connection being more-than-problematic than if she worked for a lot of other fields. Based solely on her other job title, I hypothesize that she held a higher position at ManPowerGroup, too; that part is speculation.

In these cases, the jobs were crossfire-bullseyes in terms of bad publicity for everyone associated.

I get where you are coming from, at least in part. I don't think doxing is an inherently liberal concept or activity. Neither is being an idiot in public to the degree that it requires callout an inherently conservative concept or activity. I don't really see how it loses us votes or gains MAGA any. It's a factor of what society has become with the technology we have achieved. It's not anything new, it's just that everyone has a video recorder in their pocket and the possibility of a world-wide audience.

It does go to far, at times, I agree. It reminds me a bit of the Orville Episode Social Correction. But it isn't a Right/Left thing. I don't know what the answer is to temper it.

https://orville.fandom.com/wiki/Social_Correction

[wolfie001]

65. Too late for that

The rePUKES are going after anyone who said anything accurate about "Triple K Chuckie" Kirk. F6ck those nasty bastards. Racist clowns just like this Karen.

[Cirsium]

75. Where have we heard that logic?

"We had to become violent fascists because you called us violent fascists! It's all your fault! It never occurred to us to be racists until you called us racists!"

[awesomerwb1]

76. Cool story

[pecosbob]

6. Fosado and his companion were both ejected...he claims it was simply because he is a Dodger fan.

Looking at the smirks and smiles on surrounding Brewers' fans faces I'd say the racism is pretty heavy here.

[live love laugh]

21. Wisconsin is a hotbed of racism.

[lonely bird]

68. So is the entire country

The concentrations just vary by geography.

[a kennedy]

8. Am soooooooo embarrassed by her. I'm hoping she's the only one that feels like this.......i'm sure not, but at

least she lost her damn job, what a bitch.

[dalton99a]

15. She is a sadistic POS

[democratsruletheday]

46. Karen with a bird like haircut.....

shitter got what was coming to her. CHIRP

[Torchlight]

12. I once believed that people who spent their days trying to make the world an angrier place were rare.

These days, I seem to stumble over three or four every week (and that's not taking The Internet into account) who are simply mean-spirited, and want to intimidate or bully (physically, verbally, or even mentally) others for simple entertainment (or self-validation?). I don't think I'll ever really understand that desire... and to be honest, I don't want to.

[ZZenith]

33. They'll never be happy

until we’re all as miserable as they are.

It’s tragic.

[dalton99a]

13. How many times did she call ICE on nonwhite folks?

[FakeNoose]

55. Oh my gosh, she has a law degree?

And she behaves like this in public? Unbelievable .....

[Scully]

73. Well, now we know...

...where Trump will find his next (unqualified) US Attorney.

[Iggo]

16. The haircut checks out.

Jeezus!

[Grokenstein]

17. "ICE is not gonna do nothing to me."

Oooooh, tread carefully there, friend. You're probably on a list now. Stay safe.

[live love laugh]

22. Anybody can be "on a list" including you. Tread carefully.

[maxsolomon]

27. I don't want to trip over a slight change in a walking surface

so I always tread carefully.

[Passages]

23. A board of directors role at Make a Wish?

UGH

[Oeditpus Rex]

41. She tells all the white kids

"Instead of going to Disneyland, wouldn't you rather get rid of all the brown people?"

To kids who are brown, she says, "God, you illegals, always wanting handouts. Just shut up and die."

[unc70]

24. And she is an attorney

[hibbing]

25. I hear Young Republicans have openings n/t

[maxsolomon]

26. I heard a gentleman threaten another the same way last month. Saying he would call ICE.

Of course, he was a meth/opiate addict yelling at another street person...

[Boomerproud]

28. The ultimate Karen. Frankly, I'm sick of these altercations.

I'm rooting for the Dodgers now.

[nycbos]

29. FAFO

[duhneece]

30. I'll bet she's not feeling that smug today nt

[Just Jerome]

31. WHY

would Fosado have thought ICE would do nothing to him?

[Xavier Breath]

34. Right?

"Hmm...skin color checks out. Get him!"

[Blue Owl]

37. She's the "That's my ball" Karen's sister!!!

[Oeditpus Rex]

39. Aw, White Supremacist Karen

with the totally American name was just pissed because the Dodgers were en route to their second win in Milwaukee.

(DU needs a Bouncy Blue Dude.)

[JoseBalow]

52. "Is that a Russian name?"

"No, it's American."

(2:18)

[DFW]

57. More like Polish or Ukrainian, but even "Thompson" or "Jones" are not American names.

They are European names (in this case English, and England is part of Europe).

Want a truly American name? Try Tatanka lyotake. Loosely translated into English, it comes out as “Sitting Bull.”

[JoseBalow]

58. I think you missed the point

but I do get yours.

[aggiesal]

40. I'm not condoning her actions ...

But if you watch the video, that is a typical Doijers fan and the reason I really hate Los Doijers.
If you go to Doijers Stadium, you'll get 55,000 of this guy.

They reported the Doijers Fan to the stadium’s security and he was escorted out of the building.

[oasis]

47. "Typical 'Doijers' fan here. I'm glad we're beating

the hell out of the Brewers instead of the lackluster Cubbies.

[aggiesal]

50. Lackluster? Cubs won the season series against Los Doijers 4-3 ...

Thank you for proving my point.

[oasis]

51. Right now the Cubbies are watching the

playoffs with us and the rest of baseball fandom.

[aggiesal]

54. Just like a Doijers fan. Always have to put others fans down ...

instead of rooting for your team.
That's what the guy on the video did.

You're proving my point.

[JoseBalow]

60. Hello

[Callie1979]

64. And THAT is more the reality.

[oasis]

61. "Doijers" ????? Alrighty then. Check your original

post.

[awesomerwb1]

77. Your total lack of self awareness is baffling

You started calling other fans names and putting them down and then complain of Dodger fans supposedly doing the same to you? Brilliant!

[aggiesal]

79. Where did I call other fans names? Please highlight where I called other fans names. n/t

[awesomerwb1]

82. He/she couldn't even spell it right

'Doijers" instead of Doyers.

[aggiesal]

83. It's a made up word, there is no correct way to spell it. ...

Doyers sounds more like DOH-Yers or DOOO-Yers. Doijers sounds more like DOI-Jers. ...
Grant that I could easily use Y instead of J.
But when. you hear their fans say Dodgers, it comes out as Doijers. That's how I hear it.

[awesomerwb1]

84. Nope

It's a well known fact it's DOYERS. They sell jerseys and t-shirts and other merch with the words Doyers and Los Doyers. They have for many years. Nobody besides you spells it "Doijers".

[aggiesal]

85. If they sell them, I've never seen them. n/t

[awesomerwb1]

86. Ever heard of google?

[aggiesal]

87. WOW, are you a Doijers Fan? n/t

[awesomerwb1]

88. lol Are you from texas by any chance?

[aggiesal]

89. Hell No! n/t

[NBachers]

69. Visiting LA, we were in Union Station when hordes were heading to a Dodgers game. My girlfriend was wearing a Giants cap

One of the station attendants in a little golf cart came up and asked her, "Are you lost or something?" I had to explain that, wearing the Giants cap was normal in our San Francisco home town, but it made her a target when in an iconic Los Angeles location and surrounded by crowds of Dodgers fans on their way to a game.

[awesomerwb1]

80. By the way

I think the word you were looking for was Doyers. As in Los Doyers. "Doijers"?

[WarGamer]

43. FAFO... a lot of that going around nowadays

[Mblaze]

45. Make a wish a**hole

[Pompoy]

56. Meh, the guy was an a..hole and antagonizing everybody. Her words were in kind. But getting him kicked out was worse.

People calling each other names, etc. But obviously she a Trumpkin by going there with that. We call them fascists for God's sake.
Then again, her employer doesn't want to deal with that.

[Jimbo S]

62. He's not so innocent

Keep in mind it seems he initiated this encounter by being a douchebag. You're a guest in someone's home, act accordingly. If you're going to dish it out, you need to take it. Would have I crossed that line by using her comments? No. If this woman deserved to lose her job, that's a separate conversation.

I was at Game 1 and had three Ohtani fans to my left. Very polite and respectful. They didn't give crap to anybody and no one gave crap to them. As the game was finishing up, I told them "It's OK to get excited!" Why can't more people be like this?

[TBF]

70. Say you're from Waukesha, without saying you're from Waukesha ...

and yes I can pronounce it - I grew up in that state

[IbogaProject]

71. Not a "maroon" but evil

By the way, Maroon has racist usage. It started refering to their color which is the old meaning. Then it reffered specifically to isolated communities of escaped slaves and cast aways. Moron is a better word for that detestable individual.

[LW1977]

74. Baseball games seem to be the new hang out place for Karens.