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tulipsandroses

(8,228 posts)
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 12:53 PM Oct 2025

SMDH. Just saw on local news - Homeowner refuses to pay contractor for 30K job until she sees green cards of all the

workers.

When the owner demanded his payment, this bozo sent an email complaining about the work and threatened to call ICE.

There are some truly awful people.
If those are your "principles", why didn't ask for it before they started the job???

Makes me wonder how many others are being taken advantage of like this.

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SMDH. Just saw on local news - Homeowner refuses to pay contractor for 30K job until she sees green cards of all the (Original Post) tulipsandroses Oct 2025 OP
Sure don't have to wonder who SHE voted for! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2025 #1
Learn from the worst, Dave Id Oct 2025 #19
In essence, she called ICE on the firm without having to pick up the phone. TheBlackAdder Oct 2025 #27
Yes, but she waited until they completed the job. Then she called ICE FakeNoose Oct 2025 #39
Can't wait for the contractor to sue and get a lien against her house. viva la Oct 2025 #2
I was going to say... Wednesdays Oct 2025 #17
If that wasn't part of her contract, I don't see her having any right to refuse to pay. Jim__ Oct 2025 #3
..tear the work back apart.. thomski64 Oct 2025 #28
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Oct 2025 #67
Article: sl8 Oct 2025 #4
The contractor has a mechanics lien on the property. Good irisblue Oct 2025 #8
Excellent. Demsrule86 Oct 2025 #66
Tear the roof off and haul it away Seinan Sensei Oct 2025 #41
Obviously ploy not to pay bill. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #5
Doing just as their idol, Trump, has shown them to do... time after time after time. slightlv Oct 2025 #48
Yes Trump was notorious for refusing to pay people for the work they did for him. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #52
Anyone who ever did that kind of work for me BonnieJW Oct 2025 #60
Yes usually the case. Homeowner was bamboozling the contractor from the start. Irish_Dem Oct 2025 #61
Stiffing the contractors after the work is completed? Where in the world would they learn that from? Midnight Writer Oct 2025 #6
+1 dalton99a Oct 2025 #9
Must have studied at Trump University. 3catwoman3 Oct 2025 #7
From the article irisblue Oct 2025 #10
Gee whiz, I wonder what "proper" context would justify such references. Grokenstein Oct 2025 #11
There was the woman who threatened to call ICE at the baseball game. C Moon Oct 2025 #12
Translation: Raven123 Oct 2025 #13
Enjoy the pending lien foreclosure*, dipshit. flvegan Oct 2025 #14
Slavery by another name malaise Oct 2025 #15
There was a scumbag in NM many years ago who would deliberately niyad Oct 2025 #16
Well done! Aristus Oct 2025 #18
Thank you! There are reasons that some people think I am one seriously niyad Oct 2025 #20
I would disagree with those people. Aristus Oct 2025 #21
There is that. If they were not seriously screwing up in some way or niyad Oct 2025 #22
Good for you! Hekate Oct 2025 #25
Thank you. I do whatever I can, wherever I can. niyad Oct 2025 #34
LOL. Why am I not surprised, niyad? LoisB Oct 2025 #33
Hey, everybody needs a hobby! niyad Oct 2025 #36
Amen to that. LoisB Oct 2025 #47
Well done!! gristy Oct 2025 #35
Thank you. It always helps knowing whose ass to kick! niyad Oct 2025 #38
And how hard DFW Oct 2025 #46
Exactly. And then there is the serious question, heels or wedges? niyad Oct 2025 #50
... UpInArms Oct 2025 #58
Thank you! niyad Oct 2025 #63
I presume they signed a contract mike_c Oct 2025 #23
Mechanic's lien swong19104 Oct 2025 #24
In what universe... cab67 Oct 2025 #26
Owner should hire a lawyer. Lawyer's fee can be included in the judgment. 3Hotdogs Oct 2025 #29
"The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog." Mark Twain Ping Tung Oct 2025 #30
Shame it's in a large city canetoad Oct 2025 #31
What sucks is she'll probably go to court and agree to just pay material costs TheBlackAdder Oct 2025 #32
That should be established upfront if it's important to the homeowners iemanja Oct 2025 #37
In contrast to this Karen and because I'm a Democrat... llmart Oct 2025 #40
put a lien on the home. ecstatic Oct 2025 #42
I had renovations done on two condos.. Joinfortmill Oct 2025 #43
Wondering here. How about adding INTEREST to the bill? bluestarone Oct 2025 #44
There's a lien on the place now, so it depends on state law nilram Oct 2025 #59
Good roof. How if I take it? JoseBalow Oct 2025 #45
That's how Trump conducts business, so the magats think it's just fine. n/t Liberal In Texas Oct 2025 #49
What a despicable pos. 😡 Dave Bowman Oct 2025 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2025 #53
Only a conned sucker thinks Ds are fight "for" illegal immigration. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2025 #56
The only country destroying itself is maga. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2025 #57
If it's that important to you Retrograde Oct 2025 #54
I had a roof put on my house a few years ago Norbert Oct 2025 #62
Further Details... MayReasonRule Oct 2025 #64
Put a lien on her house...it will ruin her credit. Demsrule86 Oct 2025 #65
The orange one say I'm not paying you. Take me to court. Hotler Oct 2025 #68
Literally taking after Trump: Everything is fine until the work is done, then he's "not satisfied" and withholds payment JHB Oct 2025 #69
Comment From Another World yellowdogdemocrat1 Oct 2025 #70
Fraud IbogaProject Oct 2025 #71

FakeNoose

(41,132 posts)
39. Yes, but she waited until they completed the job. Then she called ICE
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:30 PM
Oct 2025

I'll guarantee you, the landscapers didn't start work without a signed contract.

viva la

(4,571 posts)
2. Can't wait for the contractor to sue and get a lien against her house.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:00 PM
Oct 2025

Threatening to call ICE... only after the work is done.

Wednesdays

(22,257 posts)
17. I was going to say...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:16 PM
Oct 2025

I'll bet the contractor has a good case, because the refusal to pay has nothing to do with quality of work.

Jim__

(15,159 posts)
3. If that wasn't part of her contract, I don't see her having any right to refuse to pay.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:02 PM
Oct 2025

Hopefully the contractor can put a lien on her property.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,885 posts)
67. Yep.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:49 AM
Oct 2025

My crew would be there bright and early the next morning to remove it all. Let her try and stop me.

And yes, a lien would be awesome, as she has no grounds to stand on and would get her ass handed to her.

Until she appeals to whichever level of judicial review that has been corrupted by the orange gibbon and gets it all back, plus interest, because the contractor dared to have one immigrant on his crew, regardless of their legal status.

That contractor needs to go scorched earth. He won't, but he should.

sl8

(17,109 posts)
4. Article:
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:03 PM
Oct 2025
https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/owner-demands-green-cards-before-paying-for-work-done-on-home-contractor-says/507-c442c70f-1d04-4a93-800d-c49e92eb20e8
(video at link)

Homeowner demands green cards before paying for work done on Atlanta home, contractor says

The company owner says they have not received any payment and are now thousands of dollars in debt because of the unpaid bill.

Author: Chase Houle
Published: 12:46 PM EDT October 17, 2025
Updated: 12:58 PM EDT October 17, 2025

TUCKER, Ga. — A Tucker-based construction company says a local homeowner has refused to pay more than $30,000 for completed work, allegedly demanding to see the workers' green cards before releasing payment.

Mario Aguinada, owner of Sun Dry Waterproofing, told 11Alive that his company performed foundation and waterproofing work at a home in Tucker in July under a $31,000 contract.

Aguinada said he has not received any payment and is now thousands of dollars in debt due to unpaid bills.

"This has cost me a lot of money," Aguinada said. He said he paid $17,000 to $18,000 for the materials.

[..]

Irish_Dem

(80,650 posts)
52. Yes Trump was notorious for refusing to pay people for the work they did for him.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 11:56 PM
Oct 2025

Found some sort of fault with the work and refused to pay.
When they took him to court he engaged in his typical legal warfare until
they went bankrupt and out of business or caved in.

BonnieJW

(3,107 posts)
60. Anyone who ever did that kind of work for me
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 04:37 AM
Oct 2025

got paid one third upfront, one third halfway, and one third upon completion

Midnight Writer

(25,257 posts)
6. Stiffing the contractors after the work is completed? Where in the world would they learn that from?
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:13 PM
Oct 2025

"Nobody knows more about screwing contractors than I do!"

irisblue

(37,254 posts)
10. From the article
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:22 PM
Oct 2025

"11Alive reached out to the homeowner multiple times for comment.

She later responded by phone and text, declining an on-camera interview. She denied Aguinada's allegations and said her emails referencing Immigration and Customs Enforcement were taken out of context."


11 Alive is an Atlanta TV station.


Racist proverb, I am not a racist

C Moon

(13,576 posts)
12. There was the woman who threatened to call ICE at the baseball game.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:45 PM
Oct 2025

The video taped her. Went viral. She lost her job.

Raven123

(7,728 posts)
13. Translation:
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:00 PM
Oct 2025

“I don’t care if undocumented people do the work, I just think they shouldn’t be paid.”

Got it.

flvegan

(66,135 posts)
14. Enjoy the pending lien foreclosure*, dipshit.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:08 PM
Oct 2025

*assuming proper contract/paperwork was executed, etc

niyad

(131,370 posts)
16. There was a scumbag in NM many years ago who would deliberately
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:14 PM
Oct 2025

hire the undocumented for his construction jobs, refuse to pay them on completion, and threaten them with the immigration goons if they dared complain. Everybody knew what he did, nobody did anything about him. Until I moved there, and learned about this disgusting excuse for a person. By the time I was done, his business was completely gone, and more than one relevant official shuddered when they heard my name. Cannot imagine why.

niyad

(131,370 posts)
20. Thank you! There are reasons that some people think I am one seriously
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:32 PM
Oct 2025

mean bitch!

niyad

(131,370 posts)
22. There is that. If they were not seriously screwing up in some way or
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:36 PM
Oct 2025

another, I would have no reason to take action.

mike_c

(36,992 posts)
23. I presume they signed a contract
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:44 PM
Oct 2025

Unless it has a "no green cards, no pay" clause, that's not gonna fly in court.

cab67

(3,682 posts)
26. In what universe...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:07 PM
Oct 2025

…would a lawyer defend this person in court without explaining how badly they will lose?

$30k is more than the limit in small-claims, so unless this person chooses to go pro se, she’ll want a lawyer.

3Hotdogs

(15,253 posts)
29. Owner should hire a lawyer. Lawyer's fee can be included in the judgment.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:11 PM
Oct 2025

Then the judgement gets entered as a lien against the house. + interest.


NJ allows for small claims cases in the amount of $3k or less. I have won several cases in small court. Collecting is tedious but I do end up getting the money.

canetoad

(20,594 posts)
31. Shame it's in a large city
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:13 PM
Oct 2025

Living in a small town, if you don't pay the tradespeople, very soon you will find it impossible to get ANYTHING done. Keeps people honest.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
32. What sucks is she'll probably go to court and agree to just pay material costs
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:14 PM
Oct 2025

Half the time courts like negotiated settlements.

iemanja

(57,714 posts)
37. That should be established upfront if it's important to the homeowners
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:29 PM
Oct 2025

Since they waited until the work was over and used it as an opportunity to welch out of the bill they agreed to, it's clear they are immoral grifters--just like their charlatan in chief.

llmart

(17,517 posts)
40. In contrast to this Karen and because I'm a Democrat...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:41 PM
Oct 2025

There were several hispanic landscapers working right next door to me last week. I didn't have any need to hire a company for the small items I needed done and couldn't find anyone who would do such a small task. So I walked over there and asked two of them if they could do it for me after they were through working on the big job they were hired to do. They said they would come back at the end of their day which they did. I handed each of them a $50 bill. The work only took them about 15 minutes, but I was desperate to get this done before winter so I could plant something.

ecstatic

(35,042 posts)
42. put a lien on the home.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 04:12 PM
Oct 2025

If you allow folks to pay after the work is done, you should have a lien process in place, at the very least.

That homeowner is disgusting. She's harming honest homeowners who may now have to pay up front for similar work.

I'm also curious to know who the company owner (Mario Aguinado) voted for.

Joinfortmill

(20,831 posts)
43. I had renovations done on two condos..
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 04:26 PM
Oct 2025

One in FL and one in SC. Work was done by workers from Mexco and Cental America. These guys do meticulous work. Whoever this cretin owner is, I hope they sue his racist ass.

nilram

(3,527 posts)
59. There's a lien on the place now, so it depends on state law
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 04:02 AM
Oct 2025

And maybe the terms of the contract. But I hope that's in her future.

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
55. Only a conned sucker thinks Ds are fight "for" illegal immigration.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:27 AM
Oct 2025

We fight to treat people as people. If a person is here, they are entitled to protection under the law of the Constitution.

You're a sucker for swallowing Moses Johnson's lie.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #55)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
57. The only country destroying itself is maga.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:35 AM
Oct 2025

Go ask your pastor if you can do better than hanging out on pagan Democratic sites, so you can bring about your white christian nation sooner.

Retrograde

(11,401 posts)
54. If it's that important to you
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:10 AM
Oct 2025

Last edited Sat Oct 18, 2025, 01:46 AM - Edit history (1)

ask if all the employees have the legal right to work in the US - which is not the same thing as having a green card- before hiring the contractor If she was working with a contractor, they should be able to provide proof of insurance and worker's comp coverage as well. But IANAL

Norbert

(7,690 posts)
62. I had a roof put on my house a few years ago
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 06:18 AM
Oct 2025

Most of the workers were Hispanic/Mexican. Work was done in a complete & timely manner. Cleanup; almost nothing was left behind. Were they undocumented? Don't know & don't care. They could teach us about a work ethic.

My opinion; if they have a problem with the work performed, I am inclined to think is because they have some sort of a twisted and scheming agenda.

MayReasonRule

(4,085 posts)
64. Further Details...
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:36 AM
Oct 2025


The contractor's claim: Mario Aguinada, owner of Sundry Waterproofing, states the homeowner is withholding payment for a foundation repair job because she is demanding to see the green cards of all his workers.

Aguinada says this is a false claim and that all his employees are legally authorized to work.

The homeowner's response: The homeowner denies the contractor's claims and states that emails she sent were taken out of context.

Current legal action: The contractor has filed a lien against the homeowner's property in an attempt to get paid for the ($31,000) in work and materials.

Financial impact: The contractor is facing financial hardship, claiming to be in debt due to the non-payment. 

Hotler

(13,746 posts)
68. The orange one say I'm not paying you. Take me to court.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:40 AM
Oct 2025

Contractor should place a lien on the house.

JHB

(38,120 posts)
69. Literally taking after Trump: Everything is fine until the work is done, then he's "not satisfied" and withholds payment
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:10 PM
Oct 2025

Did it repeatedly, wiping out businesses and causing at least one suicide.

70. Comment From Another World
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:58 PM
Oct 2025

You know, it takes all kinds to "round" out this world.

I am a medium and while I was reading this, a "dead" person said "Trash". Meaning even the other side disapproves of this woman. She truly was acting like trash.

IbogaProject

(5,774 posts)
71. Fraud
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 03:07 PM
Oct 2025

If she had those concerns she should have spoken up at the start. This is more outright fraud hiding behind MAGA racism. Evil either way. I hope she faces punitive damages and has to pay both sets of lawyers

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