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tulipsandroses

(8,120 posts)
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 12:53 PM Oct 17

SMDH. Just saw on local news - Homeowner refuses to pay contractor for 30K job until she sees green cards of all the

workers.

When the owner demanded his payment, this bozo sent an email complaining about the work and threatened to call ICE.

There are some truly awful people.
If those are your "principles", why didn't ask for it before they started the job???

Makes me wonder how many others are being taken advantage of like this.

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SMDH. Just saw on local news - Homeowner refuses to pay contractor for 30K job until she sees green cards of all the (Original Post) tulipsandroses Oct 17 OP
Sure don't have to wonder who SHE voted for! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 17 #1
Learn from the worst, Dave Id Oct 17 #19
In essence, she called ICE on the firm without having to pick up the phone. TheBlackAdder Oct 17 #27
Yes, but she waited until they completed the job. Then she called ICE FakeNoose Oct 17 #39
Can't wait for the contractor to sue and get a lien against her house. viva la Oct 17 #2
I was going to say... Wednesdays Oct 17 #17
If that wasn't part of her contract, I don't see her having any right to refuse to pay. Jim__ Oct 17 #3
..tear the work back apart.. thomski64 Oct 17 #28
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Oct 18 #67
Article: sl8 Oct 17 #4
The contractor has a mechanics lien on the property. Good irisblue Oct 17 #8
Excellent. Demsrule86 Oct 18 #66
Tear the roof off and haul it away Seinan Sensei Oct 17 #41
Obviously ploy not to pay bill. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #5
Doing just as their idol, Trump, has shown them to do... time after time after time. slightlv Oct 17 #48
Yes Trump was notorious for refusing to pay people for the work they did for him. Irish_Dem Oct 17 #52
Anyone who ever did that kind of work for me BonnieJW Oct 18 #60
Yes usually the case. Homeowner was bamboozling the contractor from the start. Irish_Dem Oct 18 #61
Stiffing the contractors after the work is completed? Where in the world would they learn that from? Midnight Writer Oct 17 #6
+1 dalton99a Oct 17 #9
Must have studied at Trump University. 3catwoman3 Oct 17 #7
From the article irisblue Oct 17 #10
Gee whiz, I wonder what "proper" context would justify such references. Grokenstein Oct 17 #11
There was the woman who threatened to call ICE at the baseball game. C Moon Oct 17 #12
Translation: Raven123 Oct 17 #13
Enjoy the pending lien foreclosure*, dipshit. flvegan Oct 17 #14
Slavery by another name malaise Oct 17 #15
There was a scumbag in NM many years ago who would deliberately niyad Oct 17 #16
Well done! Aristus Oct 17 #18
Thank you! There are reasons that some people think I am one seriously niyad Oct 17 #20
I would disagree with those people. Aristus Oct 17 #21
There is that. If they were not seriously screwing up in some way or niyad Oct 17 #22
Good for you! Hekate Oct 17 #25
Thank you. I do whatever I can, wherever I can. niyad Oct 17 #34
LOL. Why am I not surprised, niyad? LoisB Oct 17 #33
Hey, everybody needs a hobby! niyad Oct 17 #36
Amen to that. LoisB Oct 17 #47
Well done!! gristy Oct 17 #35
Thank you. It always helps knowing whose ass to kick! niyad Oct 17 #38
And how hard DFW Oct 17 #46
Exactly. And then there is the serious question, heels or wedges? niyad Oct 17 #50
... UpInArms Oct 18 #58
Thank you! niyad Oct 18 #63
I presume they signed a contract mike_c Oct 17 #23
Mechanic's lien swong19104 Oct 17 #24
In what universe... cab67 Oct 17 #26
Owner should hire a lawyer. Lawyer's fee can be included in the judgment. 3Hotdogs Oct 17 #29
"The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog." Mark Twain Ping Tung Oct 17 #30
Shame it's in a large city canetoad Oct 17 #31
What sucks is she'll probably go to court and agree to just pay material costs TheBlackAdder Oct 17 #32
That should be established upfront if it's important to the homeowners iemanja Oct 17 #37
In contrast to this Karen and because I'm a Democrat... llmart Oct 17 #40
put a lien on the home. ecstatic Oct 17 #42
I had renovations done on two condos.. Joinfortmill Oct 17 #43
Wondering here. How about adding INTEREST to the bill? bluestarone Oct 17 #44
There's a lien on the place now, so it depends on state law nilram Oct 18 #59
Good roof. How if I take it? JoseBalow Oct 17 #45
That's how Trump conducts business, so the magats think it's just fine. n/t Liberal In Texas Oct 17 #49
What a despicable pos. 😡 Dave Bowman Oct 17 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 17 #53
Only a conned sucker thinks Ds are fight "for" illegal immigration. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 18 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 18 #56
The only country destroying itself is maga. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 18 #57
If it's that important to you Retrograde Oct 18 #54
I had a roof put on my house a few years ago Norbert Oct 18 #62
Further Details... MayReasonRule Oct 18 #64
Put a lien on her house...it will ruin her credit. Demsrule86 Oct 18 #65
The orange one say I'm not paying you. Take me to court. Hotler Oct 18 #68
Literally taking after Trump: Everything is fine until the work is done, then he's "not satisfied" and withholds payment JHB Oct 18 #69
Comment From Another World yellowdogdemocrat1 Oct 18 #70
Fraud IbogaProject Oct 18 #71

FakeNoose

(40,084 posts)
39. Yes, but she waited until they completed the job. Then she called ICE
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:30 PM
Oct 17

I'll guarantee you, the landscapers didn't start work without a signed contract.

viva la

(4,475 posts)
2. Can't wait for the contractor to sue and get a lien against her house.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:00 PM
Oct 17

Threatening to call ICE... only after the work is done.

Wednesdays

(21,554 posts)
17. I was going to say...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:16 PM
Oct 17

I'll bet the contractor has a good case, because the refusal to pay has nothing to do with quality of work.

Jim__

(15,061 posts)
3. If that wasn't part of her contract, I don't see her having any right to refuse to pay.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:02 PM
Oct 17

Hopefully the contractor can put a lien on her property.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,089 posts)
67. Yep.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:49 AM
Oct 18

My crew would be there bright and early the next morning to remove it all. Let her try and stop me.

And yes, a lien would be awesome, as she has no grounds to stand on and would get her ass handed to her.

Until she appeals to whichever level of judicial review that has been corrupted by the orange gibbon and gets it all back, plus interest, because the contractor dared to have one immigrant on his crew, regardless of their legal status.

That contractor needs to go scorched earth. He won't, but he should.

sl8

(16,981 posts)
4. Article:
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:03 PM
Oct 17
https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/owner-demands-green-cards-before-paying-for-work-done-on-home-contractor-says/507-c442c70f-1d04-4a93-800d-c49e92eb20e8
(video at link)

Homeowner demands green cards before paying for work done on Atlanta home, contractor says

The company owner says they have not received any payment and are now thousands of dollars in debt because of the unpaid bill.

Author: Chase Houle
Published: 12:46 PM EDT October 17, 2025
Updated: 12:58 PM EDT October 17, 2025

TUCKER, Ga. — A Tucker-based construction company says a local homeowner has refused to pay more than $30,000 for completed work, allegedly demanding to see the workers' green cards before releasing payment.

Mario Aguinada, owner of Sun Dry Waterproofing, told 11Alive that his company performed foundation and waterproofing work at a home in Tucker in July under a $31,000 contract.

Aguinada said he has not received any payment and is now thousands of dollars in debt due to unpaid bills.

"This has cost me a lot of money," Aguinada said. He said he paid $17,000 to $18,000 for the materials.

[..]

Irish_Dem

(79,517 posts)
52. Yes Trump was notorious for refusing to pay people for the work they did for him.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 11:56 PM
Oct 17

Found some sort of fault with the work and refused to pay.
When they took him to court he engaged in his typical legal warfare until
they went bankrupt and out of business or caved in.

BonnieJW

(3,078 posts)
60. Anyone who ever did that kind of work for me
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 04:37 AM
Oct 18

got paid one third upfront, one third halfway, and one third upon completion

Midnight Writer

(25,128 posts)
6. Stiffing the contractors after the work is completed? Where in the world would they learn that from?
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:13 PM
Oct 17

"Nobody knows more about screwing contractors than I do!"

irisblue

(36,710 posts)
10. From the article
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:22 PM
Oct 17

"11Alive reached out to the homeowner multiple times for comment.

She later responded by phone and text, declining an on-camera interview. She denied Aguinada's allegations and said her emails referencing Immigration and Customs Enforcement were taken out of context."


11 Alive is an Atlanta TV station.


Racist proverb, I am not a racist

C Moon

(13,434 posts)
12. There was the woman who threatened to call ICE at the baseball game.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 01:45 PM
Oct 17

The video taped her. Went viral. She lost her job.

Raven123

(7,492 posts)
13. Translation:
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:00 PM
Oct 17

“I don’t care if undocumented people do the work, I just think they shouldn’t be paid.”

Got it.

flvegan

(65,716 posts)
14. Enjoy the pending lien foreclosure*, dipshit.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:08 PM
Oct 17

*assuming proper contract/paperwork was executed, etc

niyad

(129,403 posts)
16. There was a scumbag in NM many years ago who would deliberately
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:14 PM
Oct 17

hire the undocumented for his construction jobs, refuse to pay them on completion, and threaten them with the immigration goons if they dared complain. Everybody knew what he did, nobody did anything about him. Until I moved there, and learned about this disgusting excuse for a person. By the time I was done, his business was completely gone, and more than one relevant official shuddered when they heard my name. Cannot imagine why.

niyad

(129,403 posts)
22. There is that. If they were not seriously screwing up in some way or
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:36 PM
Oct 17

another, I would have no reason to take action.

mike_c

(36,892 posts)
23. I presume they signed a contract
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 02:44 PM
Oct 17

Unless it has a "no green cards, no pay" clause, that's not gonna fly in court.

cab67

(3,626 posts)
26. In what universe...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:07 PM
Oct 17

…would a lawyer defend this person in court without explaining how badly they will lose?

$30k is more than the limit in small-claims, so unless this person chooses to go pro se, she’ll want a lawyer.

3Hotdogs

(15,005 posts)
29. Owner should hire a lawyer. Lawyer's fee can be included in the judgment.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:11 PM
Oct 17

Then the judgement gets entered as a lien against the house. + interest.


NJ allows for small claims cases in the amount of $3k or less. I have won several cases in small court. Collecting is tedious but I do end up getting the money.

canetoad

(20,151 posts)
31. Shame it's in a large city
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:13 PM
Oct 17

Living in a small town, if you don't pay the tradespeople, very soon you will find it impossible to get ANYTHING done. Keeps people honest.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
32. What sucks is she'll probably go to court and agree to just pay material costs
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:14 PM
Oct 17

Half the time courts like negotiated settlements.

iemanja

(57,339 posts)
37. That should be established upfront if it's important to the homeowners
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:29 PM
Oct 17

Since they waited until the work was over and used it as an opportunity to welch out of the bill they agreed to, it's clear they are immoral grifters--just like their charlatan in chief.

llmart

(17,304 posts)
40. In contrast to this Karen and because I'm a Democrat...
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 03:41 PM
Oct 17

There were several hispanic landscapers working right next door to me last week. I didn't have any need to hire a company for the small items I needed done and couldn't find anyone who would do such a small task. So I walked over there and asked two of them if they could do it for me after they were through working on the big job they were hired to do. They said they would come back at the end of their day which they did. I handed each of them a $50 bill. The work only took them about 15 minutes, but I was desperate to get this done before winter so I could plant something.

ecstatic

(35,009 posts)
42. put a lien on the home.
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 04:12 PM
Oct 17

If you allow folks to pay after the work is done, you should have a lien process in place, at the very least.

That homeowner is disgusting. She's harming honest homeowners who may now have to pay up front for similar work.

I'm also curious to know who the company owner (Mario Aguinado) voted for.

Joinfortmill

(19,976 posts)
43. I had renovations done on two condos..
Fri Oct 17, 2025, 04:26 PM
Oct 17

One in FL and one in SC. Work was done by workers from Mexco and Cental America. These guys do meticulous work. Whoever this cretin owner is, I hope they sue his racist ass.

nilram

(3,458 posts)
59. There's a lien on the place now, so it depends on state law
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 04:02 AM
Oct 18

And maybe the terms of the contract. But I hope that's in her future.

Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
55. Only a conned sucker thinks Ds are fight "for" illegal immigration.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:27 AM
Oct 18

We fight to treat people as people. If a person is here, they are entitled to protection under the law of the Constitution.

You're a sucker for swallowing Moses Johnson's lie.

Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #55)

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
57. The only country destroying itself is maga.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:35 AM
Oct 18

Go ask your pastor if you can do better than hanging out on pagan Democratic sites, so you can bring about your white christian nation sooner.

Retrograde

(11,372 posts)
54. If it's that important to you
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:10 AM
Oct 18

Last edited Sat Oct 18, 2025, 01:46 AM - Edit history (1)

ask if all the employees have the legal right to work in the US - which is not the same thing as having a green card- before hiring the contractor If she was working with a contractor, they should be able to provide proof of insurance and worker's comp coverage as well. But IANAL

Norbert

(7,546 posts)
62. I had a roof put on my house a few years ago
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 06:18 AM
Oct 18

Most of the workers were Hispanic/Mexican. Work was done in a complete & timely manner. Cleanup; almost nothing was left behind. Were they undocumented? Don't know & don't care. They could teach us about a work ethic.

My opinion; if they have a problem with the work performed, I am inclined to think is because they have some sort of a twisted and scheming agenda.

MayReasonRule

(4,011 posts)
64. Further Details...
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:36 AM
Oct 18


The contractor's claim: Mario Aguinada, owner of Sundry Waterproofing, states the homeowner is withholding payment for a foundation repair job because she is demanding to see the green cards of all his workers.

Aguinada says this is a false claim and that all his employees are legally authorized to work.

The homeowner's response: The homeowner denies the contractor's claims and states that emails she sent were taken out of context.

Current legal action: The contractor has filed a lien against the homeowner's property in an attempt to get paid for the ($31,000) in work and materials.

Financial impact: The contractor is facing financial hardship, claiming to be in debt due to the non-payment. 

Hotler

(13,725 posts)
68. The orange one say I'm not paying you. Take me to court.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:40 AM
Oct 18

Contractor should place a lien on the house.

JHB

(37,919 posts)
69. Literally taking after Trump: Everything is fine until the work is done, then he's "not satisfied" and withholds payment
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:10 PM
Oct 18

Did it repeatedly, wiping out businesses and causing at least one suicide.

70. Comment From Another World
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 12:58 PM
Oct 18

You know, it takes all kinds to "round" out this world.

I am a medium and while I was reading this, a "dead" person said "Trash". Meaning even the other side disapproves of this woman. She truly was acting like trash.

IbogaProject

(5,582 posts)
71. Fraud
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 03:07 PM
Oct 18

If she had those concerns she should have spoken up at the start. This is more outright fraud hiding behind MAGA racism. Evil either way. I hope she faces punitive damages and has to pay both sets of lawyers

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