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johnnyfins

(3,404 posts)
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 06:58 PM Oct 18

Notice anything strange about today's

No Kings protests?

No major ICE presence. You would think they'd be out, in force. Why werent they? Is the regime scared of the "optics".

I mean, what better place to do roundups than massive protest against your roundups?

Weak White Men.

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Notice anything strange about today's (Original Post) johnnyfins Oct 18 OP
Not enough agents yet... Wounded Bear Oct 18 #1
They don't want to risk it they know they are outnumbered by a lot Walleye Oct 18 #2
I wouldn't think optics would stop them but maybe it has vapor2 Oct 18 #3
I'm somewhat surprised, because what Trump needs most of all is VIOLENT CONFRONTATION Martin Eden Oct 18 #4
I was out of the news loop all day. Septua Oct 18 #13
Everything I've heard so far says no, to very few arrests Ohioboy Oct 18 #17
My greatest concern was that ICE or Proud Boy types would commit and incite violence Martin Eden Oct 18 #23
They're probably focusing more (pun unintended) Oeditpus Rex Oct 18 #5
I think cell phone cameras is why hvn_nbr_2 Oct 18 #6
I didn't see one LEO let alone ICE where I was Shambala Oct 18 #7
Likely as not, ICE was doing facial recog data gathering, intending to round up future members of "rebellion" ancianita Oct 18 #8
We had a deRien Oct 18 #27
Sounds like a good example. ancianita Oct 19 #30
Agreed! I thought they would be trying to provoke violence as an excuse for the Insurrection Act. surfered Oct 18 #9
This is one of those observations that makes me go into the weeds a little bit. I start to see the administration's most Iris Oct 18 #10
They are bullies and cowards pfitz59 Oct 18 #11
Yes, I noticed that as well PatSeg Oct 18 #12
Weak men period. They come in all colors Ponietz Oct 18 #14
I think they're avoiding confrontation Diraven Oct 18 #15
Nah Katcat Oct 18 #21
If they sent ICE agents out in the midst of large crowds, they would offer visual proof that they're in the minority. Morbius Oct 18 #16
Were many immigrants participating in the No Kings protests today? FakeNoose Oct 18 #18
Maybe it was that someone told popsdenver Oct 18 #19
How do you tell if someone is an immigrant Retrograde Oct 18 #26
That's a racist secret power/super hero power Stacey Grove Oct 19 #32
Since we were protesting in a heavily Latino area, slightlv Oct 18 #20
Yeah, I only encountered hordes of heavily armored cops lining the streets. No Ice or proudboys SunImp Oct 18 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Oct 18 #24
Power in numbers, baby. Power in numbers. n/t ReRe Oct 18 #25
Treasure Coast/Palm Beach Florida. hay rick Oct 18 #28
You wouldn't see an ICE presence at protests... regnaD kciN Oct 18 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Oct 19 #31

Wounded Bear

(63,797 posts)
1. Not enough agents yet...
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:07 PM
Oct 18

Too many protests in too many cities to provide a decisive presence yet.

Walleye

(43,758 posts)
2. They don't want to risk it they know they are outnumbered by a lot
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:11 PM
Oct 18

Like all bullies, there are scared when they don’t have the advantage. Size and numbers.

Martin Eden

(15,333 posts)
4. I'm somewhat surprised, because what Trump needs most of all is VIOLENT CONFRONTATION
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:21 PM
Oct 18

To justify MARTIAL LAW.

He doesn't give a shit about the lives of his ICE agents any more than he did about the lives of Capitol police officers on Jan 6.

He is a malignant sociopath who only cares about feeding his ego and desires. Being president is keeping him out of prison. Grabbing more power and holding onto it is his greatest priority.

Septua

(2,950 posts)
13. I was out of the news loop all day.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:45 PM
Oct 18

First thing I did was scan the Net for reports of "violence" at any of the protests. Pleasantly surprised that there were apparently none that were significant enough to rank as breaking news.

And the turnout was impressive...different estimates on total number but one was 6 million.

Martin Eden

(15,333 posts)
23. My greatest concern was that ICE or Proud Boy types would commit and incite violence
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 10:06 PM
Oct 18

Very happy that didn't happen.

 

Oeditpus Rex

(43,094 posts)
5. They're probably focusing more (pun unintended)
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:23 PM
Oct 18

on vdeo surveliance and facial recognition.

I'd liike to give them a facial.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,746 posts)
6. I think cell phone cameras is why
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 07:54 PM
Oct 18

They can kidnap random (brown) people in neighborhoods. If they try to kidnap ten people at a 500 or 5000 person event, there would be hundreds or thousands of cameras recording every move they make.

Shambala

(255 posts)
7. I didn't see one LEO let alone ICE where I was
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:22 PM
Oct 18

Claremont, CA liberal college town. I’m guessing 5-7 thousand.

ancianita

(42,783 posts)
8. Likely as not, ICE was doing facial recog data gathering, intending to round up future members of "rebellion"
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:27 PM
Oct 18

Last edited Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)

under future martial law. If it sounds extreme (though they've got 3 years to get there),

then remember that Palantir's got a contract with ICE that uses its ImmigrationOS.

deRien

(316 posts)
27. We had a
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 11:16 PM
Oct 18

drone flying above our rally... only one police car from my city and one from another nearby city...

ancianita

(42,783 posts)
30. Sounds like a good example.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:06 PM
Oct 19

We're not really having a "shutdown" like msm like to tell us.

From Rick Perlstein today...
“Hey mainstream political media! When a tyrant causes parts of the government he doesn't like to stop functioning, while amping up the parts he likes, it is not a "shutdown." It is something else.”

But millions don’t want to face that mainstream media also knows this. But msm won’t come out and tell us that it knows what it’s doing. It knows the narrative lingo assigned to it, like "shutdown."

I have a theory about what the "something else" is that's going on. What that is, is beyond what the NO KINGS rallies were about. MSM are enablying a rising tyranny of, by and for an oligarch structured corporate regime.


surfered

(11,295 posts)
9. Agreed! I thought they would be trying to provoke violence as an excuse for the Insurrection Act.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:29 PM
Oct 18

Iris

(16,835 posts)
10. This is one of those observations that makes me go into the weeds a little bit. I start to see the administration's most
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:33 PM
Oct 18

egregious behavior as something done for his true believers. Meanwhile, the actions his administration takes are basically everything the R's claimed they wanted to do election after election and now we have someone in place who is doing it. (Disbanding the Dept of Education? I've known public teachers in South Georgia who drank the Kool-aid on that decades ago)

And I guess that's why middle of the road, middle-upper class white R's have no problem with all of this.

pfitz59

(12,289 posts)
11. They are bullies and cowards
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:35 PM
Oct 18

and were outnumbered 1000 to 1 today. Any attempted abduction would have ended badly for them.

PatSeg

(52,014 posts)
12. Yes, I noticed that as well
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:39 PM
Oct 18

Perhaps they knew the whole world would be watching so they took a break from terrorizing the public. Sadly they'll be back of course.

Ponietz

(4,226 posts)
14. Weak men period. They come in all colors
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:49 PM
Oct 18

Half of Latino men and thirty percent of black men voted for this.

Diraven

(1,799 posts)
15. I think they're avoiding confrontation
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:54 PM
Oct 18

So they can claim the protests were small and dumb and a waste of time and "real Americans" don't care.

Morbius

(885 posts)
16. If they sent ICE agents out in the midst of large crowds, they would offer visual proof that they're in the minority.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 08:56 PM
Oct 18

And this they do not want to do.

FakeNoose

(40,078 posts)
18. Were many immigrants participating in the No Kings protests today?
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:00 PM
Oct 18

I don't believe many immigrants or other POCs were out today. The major participation is from the older, white baby-boomers plus Gen-Zs who are starting to wake up and pay more attention.

For that reason ICE had no interest in today's activities. But there were probably a lot of surveillance drones flying around taking pictures.

Like someone posted upthread, the ICE goons are only interested in grabbing people when they least expect it, and when they can't fight back. Today's rallies were the opposite!

popsdenver

(1,472 posts)
19. Maybe it was that someone told
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:18 PM
Oct 18

the protestors, wouldn't it be funny if we had a peaceful protest with only WHITE people..........Or maybe the Republicans knew the Media would be covering it and didn't want any video showing Trumps ICE Gestapo, and Border Patrol Storm Troopers beating up on non violent protestors......

Too bad we couldn't have another Peaceful Protest March in a month or two, and encourage MORE of our 70 million Dem Voters to show up.
A TON MORE Dem Voters..............

Retrograde

(11,372 posts)
26. How do you tell if someone is an immigrant
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 10:55 PM
Oct 18

based just on appearance? I know, I know, ICE just picks up people the think are "suspicious" without any proof, but that's hard to do in a crowd. Most of the people I saw at the local No Kings looked White, although the town is only about 70% White. Some younger Hispanic and Asian appearing people - I stayed mostly at the edges of the crowd, though.

Stacey Grove

(156 posts)
32. That's a racist secret power/super hero power
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 02:10 PM
Oct 19

the ability to determine immigration status by skin color/Spanish surname.

slightlv

(7,430 posts)
20. Since we were protesting in a heavily Latino area,
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:19 PM
Oct 18

I truly DID expect to see a presence, but was very happy to have been proved wrong. There were probably over 100 of us protesting and ICE and "Kidnapping" were on several signs. I don't think they want to deal with large crowds so anti what they do.

SunImp

(2,607 posts)
22. Yeah, I only encountered hordes of heavily armored cops lining the streets. No Ice or proudboys
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 10:02 PM
Oct 18

My state has a healthy minority population too

Response to johnnyfins (Original post)

hay rick

(9,323 posts)
28. Treasure Coast/Palm Beach Florida.
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 11:23 PM
Oct 18

We were put on alert for heavy ICE raids on Sunday. I am not convinced this is reliable information. However I do think Trump will want to immediately commit some sort of outrage to shift attention away from the massive support for No Kings and to reassert the narrative that resistance is hopeless.

regnaD kciN

(27,435 posts)
29. You wouldn't see an ICE presence at protests...
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 11:39 PM
Oct 18

…unless it was near one of their facilities. There was little chance there would be many undocumented protesters at today’s rallies.

What I was expecting would be a bunch of Proud Boys or Oath Keepers trying to stir up shit, so Trump could call out “Antifa violence” and invoke the Insurrection Act. It didn’t happen.

Response to johnnyfins (Original post)

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