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JohnnyRingo

(20,457 posts)
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:45 PM Oct 18

I was thinking about that American flag with the swastica.

They're saying it's an optical illusion that only a camera can see and I was wondering if that's possible.
Then I remembered how a digital camera can see the infrared light from our remote controls. Indeed, that's how I test them.

Can it be that someone could use a paint that only reflects infrared light to cover up parts of the flag to form a swastica, being invisible except with a digital camera? I'm no scientist but if that's possible it was the burn of the year. I'd rather believe that than to think any sitting congressman would be so stupid as to hang a Nazi symbol on the office wall and have a presser. This way I can laugh at him instead of being angry

Has anyone else seen an explanation?

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I was thinking about that American flag with the swastica. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Oct 18 OP
Explanation: mr715 Oct 18 #1
Why would the congresskkkriter mercuryblues Oct 18 #2
No politician in their right mind would want to be seen with a swastica. JohnnyRingo Oct 19 #8
swastika Celerity Oct 19 #10
Wondered why spellcheck pointed that out. JohnnyRingo Oct 19 #14
He also had a meme showing Canada as being part of Ohio right below the swastika flag... Hugin Oct 19 #11
He may well be what you say, but JohnnyRingo Oct 19 #12
WTF2 mr715 Oct 19 #20
God, sorry. mr715 Oct 19 #22
This has fuck all to with logic, reason, science Stacey Grove Oct 19 #25
Logic dictates this is another lie lame54 Oct 19 #40
Why is it that, that specific flag was chosen to display? mercuryblues Oct 19 #42
Really? mr715 Oct 19 #23
It was on a cubicle wall behind Angelo Elia, one of Taylor's staffers Celerity Oct 19 #39
IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT usonian Oct 18 #3
An 'optical illusion?' ...like how B.See Oct 18 #4
It is a swastika. Xavier Breath Oct 18 #5
White and gold. nt mr715 Oct 18 #7
I missed something. Maru Kitteh Oct 18 #6
Capitol Police called to investigate swastika in GOP congressional office Celerity Oct 19 #9
Because of the progression of the fixed stars in the ether mr715 Oct 19 #21
Thank fuck you added the "sarcasm" disclaimer Stacey Grove Oct 19 #28
It was needed? mr715 Oct 19 #29
I appreciate your efforts! Stacey Grove Oct 19 #30
You, too, are appreciated. mr715 Oct 19 #31
Why would you rather laugh at him than be angry? There is plenty of evidence we have fascists and nazis in WhiskeyGrinder Oct 19 #13
Don't use your hate to discount logic and science. JohnnyRingo Oct 19 #16
. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 19 #17
WTF? mr715 Oct 19 #19
Logic also has to do with truth and validity Stacey Grove Oct 19 #27
The ONLY "Optical Illusion" Conjuay Oct 19 #15
I don't think it's an infrared thing, but there's something odd EdmondDantes_ Oct 19 #18
The NAZI is not a victim Stacey Grove Oct 19 #24
He's only a Nazi in moonlight. mr715 Oct 19 #26
Several of those flags were given out to GOP offices blogslug Oct 19 #32
Weird that some of them would have thrown them out and not mentioned something to others EdmondDantes_ Oct 19 #45
An Infrared Thing That Only Makes... ProfessorGAC Oct 19 #33
You can see the tape over the red stripes nt mr715 Oct 19 #34
Missed My Point Entirely ProfessorGAC Oct 19 #36
I didn't MEAN to miss your point. mr715 Oct 19 #37
On That We Agree ProfessorGAC Oct 19 #41
And don't forget, it also makes part of the white stripe turn red. Iggo Oct 19 #38
It's an American flag with a swastika on it. Iggo Oct 19 #35
No JoseBalow Oct 19 #43
I did NAZI this explanation. Swede Oct 19 #44
Every time I hear this story angrychair Oct 19 #46

mr715

(2,637 posts)
1. Explanation:
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:50 PM
Oct 18

It was an American flag with swasticas

All other explanations are akin to Flat Earth theories

mercuryblues

(16,159 posts)
2. Why would the congresskkkriter
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 09:51 PM
Oct 18

Hang that particular flag. I'm sure he gets lots and lots of flags every year. Why is that the flag that got hung?

If it's possible for what you said to happen, they did it themselves in order to hang it.

JohnnyRingo

(20,457 posts)
8. No politician in their right mind would want to be seen with a swastica.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:53 AM
Oct 19

Sure, you can say he's a Nazi and he's so proud that he hung a Swastica flag and called the press in, but that stretches the bounds of imagination. No where on his Wikki does he say he loves Nazis, which is odd because you say he keeps a flag on the wall for everyone to see.

I'm not on his side here, but I believe he was pranked because he is enabling Fascists, and he deserved it.. I believe it was ingenious. Several other republicans report getting the flag "donated" to their offices but Turner was the first to put in on camera.

JohnnyRingo

(20,457 posts)
14. Wondered why spellcheck pointed that out.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:08 AM
Oct 19

I thought it just didn't like that word. haha I see it now
Thanks for being polite.

Hugin

(37,352 posts)
11. He also had a meme showing Canada as being part of Ohio right below the swastika flag...
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 03:02 AM
Oct 19

Shown In another of the earlier photos.

Yeah, he’s a fascist dirtbag.

JohnnyRingo

(20,457 posts)
12. He may well be what you say, but
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:05 AM
Oct 19

...let us not cloud logic with hate. We're getting to a point that we can discount any scientific explanation because it doesn't fit our beliefs.
Ask yourself why no one in the media is going after him. Why isn't democratic leadership moving for his removal on the grounds he is a confirmed Nazi?

Take another look at the image as posted, not the one online that someone added black outlines to define the symbol. Clearly it just doesn't look quite right and my theory that a camera can see infrared light that is invisible to human eyes makes more sense than him proudly posting a swastika.

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mr715

(2,637 posts)
20. WTF2
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:25 AM
Oct 19

#1 - It was a staffer

#2 - It doesn't look right bc there is a goddamn nazi symbol in the middle.

It isn't my hate that is clouding my vision. It is my vision that is clarifying their hate.

Stacey Grove

(156 posts)
25. This has fuck all to with logic, reason, science
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:40 AM
Oct 19

and has everything to do with tape and a marker.

Lord Jesus on rubber crutches!

The NAZI boy WORKED on this.

mr715

(2,637 posts)
23. Really?
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:36 AM
Oct 19

Are you sure about that?

Hitchens razor - what is asserted without evidence can be discarded without evidence.

B.See

(7,675 posts)
4. An 'optical illusion?' ...like how
Sat Oct 18, 2025, 10:00 PM
Oct 18

MANY of the MAGA Klan are Hitler loving fascists and apologists who, when outed for the sht they think and say in their chat rooms and behind closed doors, laugh it off as a "kids prank" is an 'illusion?'

Celerity

(53,584 posts)
9. Capitol Police called to investigate swastika in GOP congressional office
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 02:32 AM
Oct 19
An American flag altered to include an image of a swastika was found in Rep. Dave Taylor’s office.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/15/capitol-police-investigating-swastika-in-gop-congressional-office-00609704

mr715

(2,637 posts)
21. Because of the progression of the fixed stars in the ether
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:34 AM
Oct 19

Some light moves faster than others and make American flags look like nazi symbols.

There are resonances and frequencies of light that can only be manipulated by the right. They have powerful spells that and we, the left, are so stuck in the materialist, empirical mindset that we believe our senses. We need to use remote controls and camera and ouija boards to even attempt to understand the nature of that.

Don't let your hate delude you. It is a perfectly normal flag, what you see is a trick of the light caused by psychic phenomenon.

(Sarcasm)

Stacey Grove

(156 posts)
28. Thank fuck you added the "sarcasm" disclaimer
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:58 AM
Oct 19

I really want to believe OP and their cohorts here are just (poorly) taking the piss.

mr715

(2,637 posts)
31. You, too, are appreciated.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:09 PM
Oct 19

Your appreciation is especially appreciated.

but only under infrared light. In visible light, it is mild indifference.

WhiskeyGrinder

(26,217 posts)
13. Why would you rather laugh at him than be angry? There is plenty of evidence we have fascists and nazis in
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:07 AM
Oct 19

our government. Why look for a reason to excuse this one?

JohnnyRingo

(20,457 posts)
16. Don't use your hate to discount logic and science.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:17 AM
Oct 19

It's easy to say he plays right into your hand of deep rooted hatred by proudly showing his colors online then denying it for some reason.

Notice that the media knows it's a prank or it would be a big deal elsewhere than just social media. The democratic leadership knows as well or they would be screaming about it and calling for removal for being a confirmed flag flying Nazi.

If you look at the pic as posted instead of the doctored one that uses a black outline to make it easier to see, it's obvious something is amiss. It's a fact that digital cameras see light that is invisible to our eyes.

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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,217 posts)
17. .
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:24 AM
Oct 19
Notice that the media knows it's a prank or it would be a big deal elsewhere than just social media.
Multiple outlets have reported on it.

The democratic leadership knows as well or they would be screaming about it and calling for removal for being a confirmed flag flying Nazi.
People in Congress generally tread carefully when investigations are going on, as is the case now. It's a club, and we ain't in it.

If you look at the pic as posted instead of the doctored one that uses a black outline to make it easier to see, it's obvious something is amiss.
I haven't seen the one with a black outline, only the pic as posted.

mr715

(2,637 posts)
19. WTF?
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:12 AM
Oct 19

Logic is a one way street. Believe your eyes and don't assume a trick of the light. You didn't dream the image.

"Something is amiss" yeah -- we have nazis in government. And they don't hide it because it activates a portion of their base. Its like a dog whistle, except everyone can hear it.

Just because you can see it doesn't make you magic. It just makes it very, very mundane.

Stacey Grove

(156 posts)
27. Logic also has to do with truth and validity
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:53 AM
Oct 19

The truth, basically, simply is.

You have to make up lies like Nazism/Fascism or excuses to cover for Nazis, which is being done in this thread.

I wouldn't even call it "world class trolling."

It's just that the forces of reaction and their water carriers haven't caught up yet: everyone is on to this shit. The jig is up.

EdmondDantes_

(1,324 posts)
18. I don't think it's an infrared thing, but there's something odd
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 08:37 AM
Oct 19

My guess is something like a staffer or intern was being a troll or is a nazi. As you said, there's little reason to think an elected official would hang up that flag for so little gain and so much risk. But without there being something that really hides the swastika from the human eye, someone put that flag up intentionally.

But then again, people are sometimes very very stupid, so I can't entirely discount it being the representative. But it makes more logical sense that it was someone lower putting it in their cubicle or office where it could go unnoticed.

Stacey Grove

(156 posts)
24. The NAZI is not a victim
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:37 AM
Oct 19

You can't explain this away.

There aren't people creating, printing, and disseminating NAZI materials to hapless repukes.

Did I accidentally stumble into GOPee.com or Stormfront?

Jesus Fucking Christ!

blogslug

(39,081 posts)
32. Several of those flags were given out to GOP offices
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:18 PM
Oct 19
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/multiple-gop-congressional-offices-received-flags-optical-illusion-swa-rcna238059

Others managed to see the swastika and got rid of the flags.

Dave Taylor's staffer pinned his up on a corkboard, next to another normal-striped US flag and it stayed there for months.

EdmondDantes_

(1,324 posts)
45. Weird that some of them would have thrown them out and not mentioned something to others
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 07:29 PM
Oct 19

If I got a nazi flag and I wasn't expecting it at work (and I can't imagine the scenario I would be expecting that), I'd mention to my coworkers if nothing else to look out for it.

ProfessorGAC

(75,784 posts)
33. An Infrared Thing That Only Makes...
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:22 PM
Oct 19

...part of the red stripe disappear and become white, but the rest of the red stripe is in tact?
That's not scientifically reasonable. As in ZERO science to support it.

ProfessorGAC

(75,784 posts)
36. Missed My Point Entirely
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:28 PM
Oct 19

If you can see the tape in the picture, they could see it in person.
Hence, no camera tricks are required and no violations of photodynamics are required.

mr715

(2,637 posts)
37. I didn't MEAN to miss your point.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:33 PM
Oct 19

My point is that this is a ridiculous discussion. How far we have fallen as a society where we, on this message board, are discussing the vagaries of light with regard to nazi symbols in Congress.

ProfessorGAC

(75,784 posts)
41. On That We Agree
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:58 PM
Oct 19

My post was also intended to display how ridiculous it is to try to excuse what we can clearly see.
We're on the same page.

Iggo

(49,612 posts)
38. And don't forget, it also makes part of the white stripe turn red.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:39 PM
Oct 19

What’s that? Infrawhite? I guess so. It’s scientific and logical.

(This is so stupid.)

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