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Pacifist Patriot

(25,186 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 10:48 AM Oct 19

I've detected two themes from the right about the No Kings protests online and developed a counter strategy.

Last edited Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:33 AM - Edit history (1)

1. That it is a waste of our time because obviously the US has had no kings since 1776.

It has come across in various forms, but clearly the right is being triggered to mock us about wasted effort. Deliberate attempts to make it seem like we are protesting a non-issue. They are neglecting the nuance of tense. No one at the protests actually thinks we have a king. Duh!

My response has been along the lines of re-framing and introducing better facts. Quite frankly, this is more of a wasted effort than showing up to a protest was! But I'm doing it in the hope that maybe one or two people see a light bulb. Any little bit helps these days.

I've been responding with comments like.

The US has had no kings since 1788, not 1776, upon the ratification and adoption of the U.S. Constitution. The protests are a reminder to Trump and the GOP that they swore an oath to the U.S. Constitution which enshrines the notion that we have no kings and, more importantly, never should.

2. That the No Kings protests are people throwing a trantrum because their candidate lost.

I've been responding with comments like.

Peaceful protest to advocate upholding the U.S. Constitution is a much better response to losing an election than storming our nation's capital in a failed insurrection. I didn't see any elected officials running for their lives, did you?


Of course there are tons of other silly panicked responses from the right. I've lost track of how many claims of AI image manipulation I've seen, but I can't see the juice being worth the squeeze to reply to those. I've decided to focus on the U.S. Constitution since it is not a person or a party. Will I make a difference. Not much of one. But maybe. Maybe, one person will see it and stop to think?

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I've detected two themes from the right about the No Kings protests online and developed a counter strategy. (Original Post) Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 OP
1. tRump is acting like a king & wants to be king if not restrained. 2. Protests are against his actions, not his win. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 19 #1
Exactly Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #6
I've seen these comments, too. Ocelot II Oct 19 #2
How about this response: Raven123 Oct 19 #3
Beaten cops score: Maga Republicans 126. Democrats 0 Champp Oct 19 #4
How about get your heads out of the eggbeater you dumb weak-minded morons? /nt bucolic_frolic Oct 19 #5
You're inside my head as I type more diplomatic responses. Pacifist Patriot Oct 19 #7
Good post!! nt LAS14 Oct 19 #8
Reply to the usual "Whatabout?" ... What about Epstein? usonian Oct 19 #9
That can't be tsf. rubbersole Oct 19 #16
SPOILER. usonian Oct 19 #17
Or had a Dr. Ronny of his own. rubbersole Oct 19 #19
He was quite the scientist, rather than quite the ass. usonian Oct 19 #20
Andrew is not a monarch. canetoad Oct 19 #23
All the same to me. usonian Oct 20 #24
Plus the line "they're all old people" mainer Oct 19 #10
Protesting Wanna-be-Kings goes over the rubes heads. czarjak Oct 19 #11
Hey MAGA, we know he's not a king...try to catch the nuance...ya morooons! Ohioboy Oct 19 #12
And this isn't because Harris lost... paleotn Oct 19 #13
A lot of accusations of George Soros financing the whole thing Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 19 #14
We already won the argument BaronChocula Oct 19 #15
The local news finally admitted the protest here was huge Warpy Oct 19 #18
I've never seen a MAGAt swayed by logic or debate JoseBalow Oct 19 #21
I agree with your focus on the Constitution. yellow dahlia Oct 19 #22
I've seen a ton of posting about the size being small Johnny2X2X Oct 20 #25
Some feedback. Happy Hoosier Oct 20 #26
I chose 1788/1789 because of my emphasis on the U.S. Constitution. And in 1776... Pacifist Patriot Oct 20 #27
I'm just saying that arguing over the date is a bit in-the-weeds. NT Happy Hoosier Oct 20 #28
It is! Pacifist Patriot Oct 20 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Ialwaysvote Oct 20 #30

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
1. 1. tRump is acting like a king & wants to be king if not restrained. 2. Protests are against his actions, not his win.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 10:52 AM
Oct 19

The people were not out in the streets the day after he won, the day after he was certified, the day after he was inaugurated.

They are out in the streets now because of his policies and his actions.

Ocelot II

(128,918 posts)
2. I've seen these comments, too.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 10:57 AM
Oct 19

As to the claim that if Trump really were a king we wouldn't be able to hold protest demonstrations at all, the responses can be (1) Many countries in Europe are monarchies and they have protest demonstrations all the time because their kings aren't dictators; (2) the issue isn't what the power of any particular king is; it's that this country was created in the first place as the result of a revolution against a monarchy and the power that goes with it; and (3) the point of the demonstrations is as a reminder that, regardless of the fact that the US has never had an actual monarch, we will not permit any president to behave like a monarch, dictator or despot.

About throwing a tantrum when your candidate loses - that's laughable, considering the tantrum that happened on 1/6/2021 when their candidate lost. Liberal demonstrators aren't beating up police officers or smearing shit on the walls of the Capitol, and the protests aren't about the election but about what Trump has been doing since.

Raven123

(7,491 posts)
3. How about this response:
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:11 AM
Oct 19

Your welcome. It was our pleasure to demonstrate on behalf of your Constitutional Rights, including your right of free expression, regardless of how delusional it might be, and your right to mental health care, which I strongly recommend you consider.

Champp

(2,409 posts)
4. Beaten cops score: Maga Republicans 126. Democrats 0
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:12 AM
Oct 19

The Republicans beat the Living Hell out of 126 police officers on J6. Then they were all pardoned, and lots given good-payng jobs as ICE secret state police.

Democrats handed out doughnuts and coffee.

usonian

(23,392 posts)
9. Reply to the usual "Whatabout?" ... What about Epstein?
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:58 AM
Oct 19

Prince Andrew is the first monarch (not butterfly 🦋 ) to fall.

More to faceplant now that he's in the sewer where he belongs.

NEXT!



They have no answer to him and his asslick Mikey stonewalling on Epstein.

usonian

(23,392 posts)
17. SPOILER.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:52 PM
Oct 19

Louis Agassiz. Statue at Stanford University after 1906 earthquake.

He seems to have been more portly than the statue. Maybe the sculptor ran out of money for materials.

usonian

(23,392 posts)
24. All the same to me.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:18 AM
Oct 20

I respect no "privilege" unless someone has earned it.

"Dieu et mon gauche"

I salute this King.

MLK

mainer

(12,490 posts)
10. Plus the line "they're all old people"
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:08 PM
Oct 19

And "they've emptied out the nursing homes!"

Amazing that MAGA would insult the demographic that votes in high numbers, and has most of the money.

Ohioboy

(3,852 posts)
12. Hey MAGA, we know he's not a king...try to catch the nuance...ya morooons!
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:57 PM
Oct 19

MAGA and repukes like certain talking points they think are gotchas. This whole "he isn't really a king" is just the latest.

One of their all time favorites is the old " America is not actually a democracy, but a republic" trope. They think it shows brilliance when they bring this up.

I like to shut that one down by informing them that North Korea is also a "republic". Then I ask them would you want to live there?
Then I try to explain (without getting too far over their heads) that it is the democracy part of a republic that makes the difference. Healthy democracy means the people have representation and rights. Unhealthy, or no democracy means the possibility of having an authoritarian hellhole.

It doesn't always work, but it's fun to watch the expressions on their faces.

paleotn

(21,456 posts)
13. And this isn't because Harris lost...
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:21 PM
Oct 19

It's because this regime is running roughshod over the very Constitution they lied about loving. They don't. Never did. They're fascist, my way or the highway people who don't give a damn about the US Constitution or democracy in general. Otherwise they wouldn't have assaulted capital police and committed millions in damage to the US Capital.....in a tantrum because their candidate lost.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(132,509 posts)
14. A lot of accusations of George Soros financing the whole thing
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:35 PM
Oct 19

My response is I'm still waiting for my George Soros check

BaronChocula

(3,987 posts)
15. We already won the argument
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 01:38 PM
Oct 19

Like a lot of their desperate talking points, these RW claims are just fodder for their own echo chamber. When the reality of this child molester's unpopularity has sunk in to the point that numbnuts like Joe Rogan can clutch their pearls the cult has little or no messaging traction.

Way more people showed up to yesterday's protests than they did a few months ago. That momentum is on our side. That being said, the perception of the Democratic Party has not changed that much, but it has little or nothing to do with messaging. A majority of Americans prefer Democratic priorities but enough people continue to vote for republicans based on psychology. Any party in America that is seen as standing up for the traditionally despised (the poor, women, minorities, LGBTQ+, etc.) is perceived as weak. It's why Democrats often have their strongest performances following republican catastrophe. When Democrats clean up republican messes, republicans are once again given the keys and the cycle continues. But that's a rant for another day.

I do salute your vigor at even addressing these a-holes.

Warpy

(114,372 posts)
18. The local news finally admitted the protest here was huge
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 02:03 PM
Oct 19

and managed to interview a couple of reasonably articulate people about why it was happening.

Instead of just reporting the story, they felt compelled to do a phone interview with the whiny head of the GOPee who called everybody at the march un-American and uneducated. Then she said we were the ones who needed to tone down the rhetoric. I do hope people really listened to her, that shit needs to backfire right into her bottle blonde framed face. It would have been good reporting without inviting a Republican to come shit on the parade.

yellow dahlia

(4,362 posts)
22. I agree with your focus on the Constitution.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 09:35 PM
Oct 19

So much of what is going on circles back to the Constitution...and its Amendments.

Johnny2X2X

(23,671 posts)
25. I've seen a ton of posting about the size being small
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:28 AM
Oct 20

"CNN reports 650,000 people at No Kings rallies nationwide." Seen that several times, probably floating around the RW internet. CNN has reported nearly 7 million.

Happy Hoosier

(9,386 posts)
26. Some feedback.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 09:41 AM
Oct 20

The 1776 date is accurate. That is when the US declared independence. And Britain surrendered in 1781.

My response to that is something like: "Correct. And we intended to keep that way in light of Trump making claims like he can invoke the Insurrection Act and weild "UNQUESTIONED POWER." In the USA, no one weilds unquestioned power. The people who weild unquestioned power are dictators and kings. Which one does Trump think he is? "

I like your response to 2.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,186 posts)
27. I chose 1788/1789 because of my emphasis on the U.S. Constitution. And in 1776...
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 11:12 AM
Oct 20

we were colonies in rebellion against the crown but the success was by no means assured. I'm honestly okay with either date, but wanted to point to the Constitution because that is what is fundamentally at risk right now.

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