Ceasefire unravels: Gaza sees deadly strikes; aid flows suspended

[SunSeeker]

 Israel launched airstrikes Sunday in Gaza after what it said was a Hamas attack on its forces, adding to the two-year-old war’s death toll and rattling a delicate U.S.-brokered ceasefire that had brought a measure of relief to the beleaguered enclave.

The day descended into finger-pointing as each side accused the other of violating the pact that President Trump, just six days earlier, had said would usher in “a golden age” of peace for the Middle East.

The ceasefire compelled Israel to end its months-long blockade of the enclave, but Israel said Sunday that it once again halted aid flows, potentially plunging Gaza once more into famine even as aid groups were clamoring for additional supplies to be trucked in.

Sunday’s strikes constituted the strongest challenge yet to an uneasy truce that came into place Oct. 10 after intense diplomacy — and no little pressure on the belligerents — from Trump and a raft of Arabic and Islamic nations to stop fighting and bring an end to a war that has killed tens of thousands and all but flattened much of Gaza.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2025-10-19/israel-strikes-gaza-in-the-first-major-ceasefire-test-saying-hamas-attacked-troops

[Klarkashton]

1. Right on schedule..

The pig trump stupid plan.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Yep, as good as any trump promise...

[Shellback Squid]

3. another betrayal, this was bound to happen

[tritsofme]

6. Exactly. It was only a matter of time until Hamas killed the ceasefire.

There was a ceasefire in effect on 10/7/23 as well, for those who remember.

[Maru Kitteh]

4. 3000 years sure do fly by quick these days.

[moondust]

5. BBC: Israel says it will return to ceasefire.

Israel says it will return to ceasefire after Gaza strikes

The Israeli military has said it will resume enforcement of the ceasefire in Gaza after launching air strikes on Sunday in response to what it called Hamas's "blatant violation" of the deal.

Strikes began in southern Gaza after the Israeli military said "terrorists fired an anti-tank missile and gunfire" toward its troops in Rafah, killing two soldiers.

Hamas said it was "unaware" of any clashes in the area under Israeli control.

By evening, Israel said it had hit Hamas targets across Gaza, with hospital sources saying 44 people were killed.

[BigmanPigman]

7. And who is surprised by this?

No one!

[SunSeeker]

8. Of course no one is surprised. But that did not stop the MSM from glowing reviews of Trump's "peace deal."

[BigmanPigman]

9. Of course the MSM will not cover his failures,

including all of his BS "peace deals". Yet, they do show him saying over and over how ne stopped 7 wars and no news person fact checks him.

The MSM is our enemy!!! They helped to create and continue to support this crazy, hate filled, greedy hypocrite and his Nazi cabinet.

[iemanja]

10. "All Hamas has to do is release the hostages"

That didn’t age well.

[SunSeeker]

11. That was never the only requirement. Hamas was required to disarm. They still have not.

They're busy killing their own people.

[iemanja]

12. As awful is that is

Israel is not killing Palestinians to stop Hamas from killing Palestinians. Which aspects of the peace deal has Israel abided by?
As far as I can tell, it's none.

AND countless people claimed that all Hamas had to do to end the war was return the hostages. Yet they can't admit they were wrong.

[SunSeeker]

13. There is no peace deal. There was only a tenuous ceasefire deal, which Hamas was the first to violate.

Hamas was the first to violate the ceasefire deal by failing to return the bodies of the dead hostages like they promised.

Then Hamas started executing fellow Palestinians.

Then Hamas started getting in firefights with the IDF outside the ceasefire zone.

Who are all these "countless people" you speak of?

[iemanja]

14. Only some of that is true

You're putting me in the disgusting situation of having to defend Hamas, which I despise, but your claims are not all accurate. Yes, Hamas has barbarically killed so-called collaborators. Two IDF soldiers were killed, and there are disputed claims about who killed them. Israel has continued to kill Palestinians throughout the so-called cease fire. https://www.commondreams.org/news/israel-violates-ceasefire https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-premier-says-
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/18/israel-kills-11-palestinian-family-members-in-gazas-deadliest-truce-breach
153-tons-of-bombs-dropped-on-gaza-admits-breach-of-ceasefire-deal/3722145
https://www.barrons.com/news/netanyahu-says-israel-dropped-153-tonnes-of-bombs-on-gaza-on-sunday-d0324a9f

Regarding the return of hostages:
Hamas made clear during the negotiations that they would not be able to return all the bodies quickly because of the state of the ruins. Israel has bombed Gaza to damnation, and thousands of bodies are buried beneath the rubble. Anyone can see that from looking at photos of the ruins.

Link to tweet

Hamas then returned all of the living hostages and some of the remains of those deceased.

Israel now claims: “We know that Hamas can return them, and we know that Hamas is aware of where they are located,” said spokesperson Bedrosian, who referred to Hamas’ claim that some bodies cannot be located as "propaganda."
If Israel believes this, 1) why did they not make this claim during the negotiations? 2) How can Israel be so certain that Hamas knows where all the hostages are and can easily retrieve them? 3) Is it because Israel knows where the hostages are? 4) Logically, it's far more likely that the buried bodies are not easily accessed because of the nuclear-bomb type destruction levied on Gaza. If Palestinians can't locate their own family members, why should they magically be able to locate the remains of all the Israeli hostages?

Israel returned tortured and executed remains of some prisoners. They refused to identify them. The remains showed blatant violations of the Geneva Conventions.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/15/palestinian-bodies-returned-by-israel-show-signs-of-torture-and-execution-say-doctors

The Israeli government has made its intentions clear: Israel's National Security Minister, Ben-Givir announced: "​Now that we have received the hostages, we must return to war and open the gates of hell upon Gaza."

Link to tweet

Clearly, the goal continues to be genocide and a land grab. That is indisputable.

Literally thousands if not more people have claimed that all Hamas had to do to stop the war was return the hostages. They made those claims all over social media, and the Israeli government made the same claims. Ben-Givir's statement exposes that as false.

[SunSeeker]

15. All of what I said is true.

Nothing in your long post disputes what I actually said. If Hamas didn't know where all the dead hostages' bodies are, they should have said so in the negotiations, and not lied that they would return all of the bodies in exchange for various Israeli concessions.

Hamas did not just kill so-called collaborators, they also killed rivals for power in Gaza, including executing 28 members of the rival Doghmush clan, immediately after this ceasefire began. https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/14/middleeast/gaza-public-execution-gaza-city-hamas-intl

Again, can you name some of these "literally thousands if not more people"?

[iemanja]

17. Are you actually claiming no one has ever said that?

Seriously? That would be an absurd claim.

Here is one: https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelPalestine/comments/17lunum/instead_of_asking_for_a_ceasefire_why_not_ask_for/

I suggest you do a search of X if you want more names.

What my “long post” demonstrates is that Israel has repeatedly broken the cease fire and in fact has no intention of keeping their word. I’m sorry that you find the word of an Israeli Minister troubles your version of events. The truth has a way of doing that.

[SunSeeker]

18. You're the one who made the claim. Prove it.

The words of the Israeli Minister does not "trouble my story." I am speaking the truth. This ceasefire did not stand a chance. Hamas was the first to violate this ceasefire by killing Palestians and failing to return all of the hostages' bodies as they had promised. Hamas had not "made clear during the negotiations that they would not be able to return all the bodies" it had promised to return. Hamas has only returned 13 of the 28 hostage bodies it had promised to return under the terms of the ceasefire agreement, thus they have violated the agreement. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew45zp1228o

You said, "countless people claimed that all Hamas had to do to end the war was return the hostages."

But you have yet to cite one such a person, let alone "countless" of them. The reddit post you link to does not say that. On the contrary, it asks, "Instead of asking for a ceasefire, why not ask for the hostages to be released?" The replies to that reddit post explain why.

Since Hamas' horrific cross-border slaughter of over 1,000 Israeli civilians on Oct. 7, 2023, Israel has made it clear it cannot allow an armed Hamas to exist next to its borders to commit another such attack. Israel declared war with the stated objective of destroying Hamas' military and governing capabilities, ensuring that Hamas could no longer pose a threat to Israel. The war will continue until Hamas surrenders power, and its weapons.

Nobody on DU that I have seen has said, "all Hamas has to do to end the war is return the hostages." Most important, Israel has never said all Hamas had to do to end the war was return the hostages. So it makes no sense to say that is all it would take to end the war.

[Ilsa]

16. Summed up in a few words: the head of lettuce is still edible. nt

[democratsruletheday]

20. Leave it to Dems to form a circular firing squad in a thread like this....

take your petty BS and grievances and bickering elsewhere. Israel is a brutal, horrific, lying, bloodthirsty country run by despots. Hamas is a similar but full of terrorists. Hate to 'both sides' it but they deserve each other and always have. Your attempts at one upping each other are pathetic and misguided. Be better.

[SunSeeker]

21. I agree that Dems sniping at other Dems has never served us well, particularly when it comes to Gaza.

The "Uncommitted" movement certainly was misguided and helped give us Trump 2. Some folks have never learned that lesson.