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Leslieoo7 @Leslieoo7 10hI will vote for the first Dem 2028 candidate to promise to jackhammer the Rose Garden patio on day one and bulldoze the ballroom on day two.
Then, they can take down the gold in the Oval and start fixing all the other shit. It's symbolic. I want this disgrace wiped from history.

kimbutgar
(26,955 posts)Country. Put a lien on all his assets to repay the money he has stolen from us Americans. We want retribution payback!
calimary
(89,231 posts)He must NOT be allowed IN ANY WAY to force OR fool the American taxpayer into picking up the tab for all HIS excesses.
NOT.
Repeat: NOT.
NOT in ANY way WHATSOEVER.
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)toward the project. Remember, the salary he wasn't even going to take during Trump 1?
The whole salary making hardly a dent in 250 million. And, of course, he won't pay a cent.
IF the oligarchs pay for it they'll get it back another way. We are paying for it one way or another.
When we get out of this mess I guess they'll pass some laws that presidents don't get to destroy historic buildings without a review process, Congress, etc. Besides laws in general.
Layzeebeaver
(2,196 posts)But be fired the governing body that enforces it and put his own toady in place to rubber stamp the destruction.
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)Immunity or no, I hope we see him pay for this
lastlib
(27,740 posts)Their only law is that which enriches themselves and punishes their enemies.
Blue Owl
(58,466 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,314 posts)I note that hes not on the fucking child rapists revenge list.
Lucky Luciano
(11,835 posts)calimary
(89,231 posts)In one form of currency or other.
A 1% share of Trump Mediterranean perhaps?
3catwoman3
(28,774 posts)A very great point, indeed.
LymphocyteLover
(9,508 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,508 posts)and our justice system is slow
Abstractartist
(427 posts)I blame former shitstain Sen Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. If president Biden had put up more Supreme Court nominees to complete the full court, these two would have voted them down so now, this court is packed with traitorous fake patriots.
Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)Trump does it and nothing happens.
Grim Chieftain
(1,391 posts)No matter how evil, how criminal, how disgusting, he gets away with every damn thing.
IcyPeas
(25,052 posts)I can hardly get more outraged.... every freakin' day
Grim Chieftain
(1,391 posts)LilElf70
(1,431 posts)this loser gets whatever he wants. By far, the largest mistake this country has ever done.
COL Mustard
(8,048 posts)A bomb went off.
DrMJG10
(59 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)I know I am not the only one who felt sick looking at it.
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)He focuses on the things that are important and special to the American people.
The sadistic part of him.
And of course the destruction where he can make a lot of money.
What I wonder is what the hell is he destroying behind the scenes.
The stuff he doesn't want us to know about.
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)or special to the American people. This is a guy who never studied history.
He only values shiny gold stuff.
Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)They are experts are identifying what is valuable and important to others.
And then tormenting and torturing them with this information.
He himself does not value anything except his own skin, power and wealth.
He does not share the values of the American people or care about our country,
democracy, rule of law etc.
Trump deliberately tore up Jackie Kennedy's Rose Garden and the East Wing to
torment liberals. And the appointment of RFK Jr to humiliate the Kennedys further.
All purposeful.
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)so I accept your analysis, but still I doubt Trump has perused the history of the East Room or knows anything about Mary Lincoln redecorating or Willie suffering from typhoid fever while she held a ball there....
(I'm not sure yet whether the East Room has survived)
Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)Trained and experienced clinicians know very well how narcissists and psychopaths operate.
Also the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
And the best explanation for current behavior are past motives.
This is how the FBI, CIA, State Dept can put together very accurate profiles
of subjects.
Of course Trump does not know or care about American history.
And has no understanding of nuance or details.
The only thing he knows is that the White House is important to the American people.
And that it will hurt them when he destroys it.
I also think Trump is being advised by people with more sophistication and nuance.
But Trump just knows the basics or torturing and tormenting people to kill their spirit.
Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)Trump knew all along this would happen.
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)I'm guessing that is part of the White house itself and not the East Wing?
Irish_Dem
(80,316 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,418 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)My house too
littlemissmartypants
(32,398 posts)And that's just for starters.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,683 posts)If God has any artistic ethic, he'll send drumpf to hell for this mess.
GoCubsGo
(34,725 posts)Take a goddamn wrecking ball to all of them. Or, fucking dynamite them. Plow under his fucking golf courses, and put solar farms on them.
benfranklin1776
(6,993 posts)Poetic Justice given his insane rants about them. 😡
MadameButterfly
(3,837 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,993 posts)Putting a monument of traitorism to use in service of a higher purpose-the ultimate act of beneficial recycling ♻️ ✊🏼
SuzyandPuffpuff
(433 posts)Spencer House schlock. That's my fucking house and I want it back. He's doing it to b mean "bcz he's an eight year old gonna get even with you all" mentality.major piece of shit.
benfranklin1776
(6,993 posts)It needs immediately thrown into a toxic waste dump, along with anything remotely associated with him and his terrorist sympathizers 🤬😡
Dave Id
(250 posts)would contaminate the waste dump further.
SunSeeker
(57,798 posts)evilhime
(372 posts)A big club of those who agree with what you say.
Gore1FL
(22,874 posts)Emile
(41,155 posts)evemac
(279 posts)trauma of hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and fires, seeing a house that is needlessly gutted is heart wrenching.
What a sfachime.
Prairie Gates
(7,464 posts)democrank
(12,337 posts)Not a peep from Republicans. They cant even speak up when their Criminal Leader flattens part of the White House. What a disgrace.
Sneederbunk
(17,324 posts)0rganism
(25,507 posts)Naturally, future presidents (should we be so lucky) should refuse to live there, but the damage needs to stay.
babylonsister
(172,640 posts)His taste is gaudy imo. I already know I'm not going to like it.
He demolished a section of Our House with permission from no one.
I'm furious!!
Delmette2.0
(4,475 posts)public housing.
GoCubsGo
(34,725 posts)And, remove every mark he put on that building, fake gold shit and all.
GoCubsGo
(34,725 posts)In Trump style, it will be poorly-designed, and slapped up with cheap materials. The first big snow, and down comes the roof. I'd rather my tax dollars fund the upkeep of all of our existing museums over that eyesore. We'll be digging out of this mess for generations as it is. We'll have enough reminders, like the way he fucked up our government, trade and other foreign relations...
0rganism
(25,507 posts)The reminders aren't for us, but for our great grandchildren (should we be so lucky). The entire process leading to this disaster needs to be studied; the price of losing democracies to tyranny is too damn high. Every schoolchild must know and appreciate the scope of this calamity, and the damage done directly to the WH is a perfect encapsulation.
GoCubsGo
(34,725 posts)That includes the missing East Wing, which is is in every photo of the White House up until now. Not to mention the damage he did to our country that will take generations to repair--if it can be repaired at all. Your grandkids are going have to live with the messes he created, including his hostility toward efforts to mitigate climate change. They're not going to think twice about that fucking ballroom, when they're sweltering in the heat, and drowning as the sea levels rise.
ChazInAz
(2,998 posts)One of his pet projects was for a national amphitheater. A monstrous thing of black stone in (IIRC) Nuremberg. When the war started going badly, work stopped and the laborers downed tools to pick up weapons. It still looms in the heart of the city, just as it was left...with one addition. There is a museum of the Holocaust there, and a huge documentary library that serves as a research facility for historians and prosecuters.
Ilsa
(63,992 posts)into the large ceremonial room, offices, etc.
A ballroom will be wasted space, wasted air conditioning, etc. It's stupid, and probably just some vehicle for money laundering or theft.
Quixote1818
(31,136 posts)Bozvotros
(955 posts)And sending the bill for demolition and restoring the grounds and Whitehouse. And they can shove those stupid wishful phallic symbol flagpoles where the sun doesn't shine on him too.
LT Barclay
(3,176 posts)violating the Constitution. If they refuse to comply a contingent of trustworthy Federal Marshalls will perp march them out of their chambers and they will be publicly stripped of the robes.
In addition I will prioritize the reunion of the families and children from the first round of this hell, apologize to the world for our behavior, and welcome back all the deported regardless of legal status. I also promise to stop provoking conflict around the world. And finally I promise to ship the J6ers and anyone involved with the illegal ICE raids off to the Hague as I could trust them for a fair and just trial. That would be impossible here.
Then that done, I promise to turn the whole show over to someone who is more capable Kamala Harris would be my first choice.
BlueKentuckyGirl
(532 posts)When I look at this, I see Oklahoma City. It was the result of a terrorist attack and that is what this is. It was Timothy McVey then. It is Donald Trump now.
AllaN01Bear
(28,790 posts)Silver Gaia
(5,270 posts)JHB
(38,037 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,216 posts)and must be treated as such.
Elise Noa
(3 posts)Heres a measured reply you can use it pushes back on destructive talk while keeping the tone punchy and constructive:
I get the frustration the Rose Garden and Oval Office feel like symbols that matter. That said, tearing things up or bulldozing them isnt the answer. If you want the next president to reverse recent changes (like the Rose Garden paving) or remove gilded decor, the effective route is political and legal: vote, back candidates who promise restorations, push preservation groups, and pressure Congress or the National Park Service to act. Recent renovations to the Rose Garden and changes in the Oval have already sparked a lot of public debate.
Symbolic changes can be powerful restoration projects, new decor choices, and public ceremonies can rewrite the story without breaking the law. If you want, I can help draft a short social post or a letter to your representative calling for a thoughtful restoration plan.
RandiFan1290
(6,690 posts)They may remove the gold but the 'ballroom' will be allowed to stand.
I will bet any of you.
I've seen this movie too may times.
Queso Delicioso
(185 posts)Then re-purpose it as a shelter & soup kitchen.
Queso Delicioso
(185 posts)It might fade with time, but it'll always be one of the most shameful eras in our history.
Martin Eden
(15,412 posts)That means Trumpist fascism will have failed, and will be labeled for what it was in history books read by future generations.
Because if fascism succeeds, the truth of what is happening now will be flushed down the Memory hole.
misanthrope
(9,416 posts)**
Passages
(3,986 posts)Otterdaemmerung
(136 posts)... then bulldoze the whole thing in front of Trump as he's forced to watch from his prison cell.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,266 posts)in a straight jacket and muzzled like Hannibal Lecter.
Paladin
(32,354 posts)Clean up all of this shit, from the very first fucking day of Democratic leadership.
John Coktosten
(179 posts)Totally agree.