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(93,320 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 05:52 PM Oct 21

'I want this disgrace wiped from history.'

Leslieoo7 @Leslieoo7 10h
I will vote for the first Dem 2028 candidate to promise to jackhammer the Rose Garden patio on day one and bulldoze the ballroom on day two.

Then, they can take down the gold in the Oval and start fixing all the other shit. It's symbolic. I want this disgrace wiped from history.






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'I want this disgrace wiped from history.' (Original Post) bigtree Oct 21 OP
And I want him to lose his every service detail to pay back the taxpayers for the damage he has done to this kimbutgar Oct 21 #1
Every bit of it. For starters. calimary Oct 21 #24
I read that he "may" contribute part of his $400,000 salary MadameButterfly Oct 21 #39
that law already exists Layzeebeaver Oct 22 #47
Figures MadameButterfly Oct 22 #49
LAWS??? These are MAGA repuglikans we're talking about.... lastlib Oct 22 #67
Why isn't this goddamned criminal fuck in a PRISON where he belongs? Blue Owl Oct 21 #2
Ask Merrick the Meek Aviation Pro Oct 21 #15
Great point. Says a lot. Lucky Luciano Oct 21 #16
Evidently ol' Merrick can be bought. calimary Oct 21 #25
As Lucky Luciano said, "Great point." 3catwoman3 Oct 21 #29
SCOTUS was the problem. Garland via Jack Smith had prosecutions going. LymphocyteLover Oct 22 #57
the corrupt SCOTUS gave him immunity LymphocyteLover Oct 22 #56
And you know who to blame? Abstractartist Oct 22 #65
We would have declared war if anyone else had taken down the WH. Irish_Dem Oct 21 #3
He gets away with everything Grim Chieftain Oct 21 #6
And he knows it. He knows no one will stop him. He is laughing at us. IcyPeas Oct 21 #18
I am right there with you, friend Grim Chieftain Oct 21 #23
The SC has claimed LilElf70 Oct 21 #35
It looks like COL Mustard Oct 21 #19
This photo is nauseating DrMJG10 Oct 21 #4
People are having a visceral reaction to the photo. Irish_Dem Oct 21 #12
It's hard to imagine the things Trump can think of to destroy MadameButterfly Oct 21 #37
Yes he is taking a wrecking ball to everything. Irish_Dem Oct 21 #40
I'm not sure he understands that what he is destroying is valuable MadameButterfly Oct 22 #50
Oh yes he does. Sadists always know the buttons to push. Irish_Dem Oct 22 #52
You have a professional understanding of this that I dont, MadameButterfly Oct 22 #55
Yes I am able to put together a psych profile based on diagnoses and statistical probability. Irish_Dem Oct 22 #64
Reports tonight state the entire East Wing of the WH has been destroyed. Irish_Dem Oct 22 #76
But I haven't heard mention of the East Room MadameButterfly Oct 23 #78
Online it says East Room is not located in the East Wing. Irish_Dem Oct 23 #79
Thanks. I was hoping MadameButterfly Oct 23 #80
That's MY house, dammit !!! Seinan Sensei Oct 22 #43
Class action law suit? MadameButterfly Oct 22 #51
I'm just weeping about each one of those lovely slate roofing tiles. littlemissmartypants Oct 22 #72
Just sickening. greatauntoftriplets Oct 21 #5
I want to see every last one of his fucking properties meet the same fate. GoCubsGo Oct 21 #7
And windmills. benfranklin1776 Oct 21 #10
Like turning RE Lee's estate into a military graveyard MadameButterfly Oct 21 #38
Yes 🙌🏼 Perfect example! benfranklin1776 Oct 22 #54
Agreed SuzyandPuffpuff Oct 21 #8
Aye LuvLoogie Oct 21 #9
Hell yes✊🏼 benfranklin1776 Oct 21 #11
Trump thrown into a toxic waste dump... Dave Id Oct 21 #36
K & R SunSeeker Oct 21 #13
I think this will be a evilhime Oct 21 #14
If that stupid arc gets built, that needs to be turned to gravel during the first week, too. nt Gore1FL Oct 21 #17
I feel the same way you do! Emile Oct 21 #20
For those of us who have gone through the evemac Oct 21 #21
100% agree...none of this "it's spent money" nonsense: raze it to the motherfucking ground on DAY ONE Prairie Gates Oct 21 #22
East Wing hit by a terrorist democrank Oct 21 #26
A stench in the nostrils of honest men. Sneederbunk Oct 21 #27
Disagree, I think this "ballroom" needs to remain as a reminder, turn it into a museum for evidence of F47's perfidy 0rganism Oct 21 #28
Let him reenact it in his library. babylonsister Oct 21 #31
Some people just have no respect for Delmette2.0 Oct 21 #41
What better "fuck you" to him than to tear it down? GoCubsGo Oct 22 #59
No, it will likely be a death trap. GoCubsGo Oct 22 #58
Agree on safety, once serious people rebuild OSHA it will need a thorough inspection/renovation cycle before public use 0rganism Oct 22 #71
There will be plenty of other reminders. GoCubsGo Oct 22 #73
A certain Herr Hitler had a passion for grandiose construction scemes. ChazInAz Oct 22 #70
Set aside a space for the museum. Turn the rest Ilsa Oct 22 #74
Anything built by the Pedo is a desecration and must go. Nt Quixote1818 Oct 21 #30
I'm OK if they do it vice versa too. Bozvotros Oct 21 #32
I'll add it to my platform, along with demanding the immediate resignation of the sick 6 SCOTUS judges for continually LT Barclay Oct 21 #33
Terrorist Attack BlueKentuckyGirl Oct 21 #34
miffed . hear me? miffed . AllaN01Bear Oct 21 #42
Sad and outraged Silver Gaia Oct 22 #44
I'll see that and raise you an "everyone whose 'donations' paid for it should be prosecuted for bribery" JHB Oct 22 #45
Yes! I don't want anyone who's too delicate or scared to act decisively on this. This is an abomination, Crunchy Frog Oct 22 #46
Home decor Elise Noa Oct 22 #48
I will bet anyone that this will be allowed to stand. RandiFan1290 Oct 22 #53
Just dedicate it as the E. Jean Carrol Ballroom Queso Delicioso Oct 22 #61
We'll never be rid of the stain, the stench of this administration. Queso Delicioso Oct 22 #60
The important thing is it will be remembered in American history as a terrible stain Martin Eden Oct 22 #62
+100*nm misanthrope Oct 23 #81
Trump, the ugly American in every sense of the word. Passages Oct 22 #63
Seize Mar-a-Lago for taxes... Otterdaemmerung Oct 22 #66
Strapped to a roll cart MorbidButterflyTat Oct 22 #69
Couldn't possibly agree more. Paladin Oct 22 #68
100% John Coktosten Oct 22 #75
Totally with you! electric_blue68 Oct 22 #77

kimbutgar

(26,726 posts)
1. And I want him to lose his every service detail to pay back the taxpayers for the damage he has done to this
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 05:57 PM
Oct 21

Country. Put a lien on all his assets to repay the money he has stolen from us Americans. We want retribution payback!

calimary

(88,922 posts)
24. Every bit of it. For starters.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:29 PM
Oct 21

He must NOT be allowed IN ANY WAY to force OR fool the American taxpayer into picking up the tab for all HIS excesses.

NOT.

Repeat: NOT.

NOT in ANY way WHATSOEVER.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
39. I read that he "may" contribute part of his $400,000 salary
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:02 PM
Oct 21

toward the project. Remember, the salary he wasn't even going to take during Trump 1?
The whole salary making hardly a dent in 250 million. And, of course, he won't pay a cent.
IF the oligarchs pay for it they'll get it back another way. We are paying for it one way or another.

When we get out of this mess I guess they'll pass some laws that presidents don't get to destroy historic buildings without a review process, Congress, etc. Besides laws in general.

Layzeebeaver

(2,151 posts)
47. that law already exists
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:47 AM
Oct 22

But be fired the governing body that enforces it and put his own toady in place to rubber stamp the destruction.

lastlib

(27,468 posts)
67. LAWS??? These are MAGA repuglikans we're talking about....
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:30 AM
Oct 22

Their only law is that which enriches themselves and punishes their enemies.

Aviation Pro

(15,218 posts)
15. Ask Merrick the Meek
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:46 PM
Oct 21

I note that he’s not on the fucking child rapist’s revenge list.

calimary

(88,922 posts)
25. Evidently ol' Merrick can be bought.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:34 PM
Oct 21

In one form of “currency” or other.

A 1% share of “Trump Mediterranean” perhaps?

Abstractartist

(409 posts)
65. And you know who to blame?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:58 AM
Oct 22

I blame former shitstain Sen Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. If president Biden had put up more Supreme Court nominees to complete the full court, these two would have voted them down… so now, this court is packed with traitorous fake patriots.

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
3. We would have declared war if anyone else had taken down the WH.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:00 PM
Oct 21

Trump does it and nothing happens.

Grim Chieftain

(1,167 posts)
6. He gets away with everything
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:10 PM
Oct 21

No matter how evil, how criminal, how disgusting, he gets away with every damn thing.

IcyPeas

(24,798 posts)
18. And he knows it. He knows no one will stop him. He is laughing at us.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:04 PM
Oct 21

I can hardly get more outraged.... every freakin' day

LilElf70

(1,349 posts)
35. The SC has claimed
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:53 PM
Oct 21

this loser gets whatever he wants. By far, the largest mistake this country has ever done.

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
12. People are having a visceral reaction to the photo.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:22 PM
Oct 21

I know I am not the only one who felt sick looking at it.

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
40. Yes he is taking a wrecking ball to everything.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:07 PM
Oct 21

He focuses on the things that are important and special to the American people.
The sadistic part of him.
And of course the destruction where he can make a lot of money.


What I wonder is what the hell is he destroying behind the scenes.
The stuff he doesn't want us to know about.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
50. I'm not sure he understands that what he is destroying is valuable
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:22 AM
Oct 22

or special to the American people. This is a guy who never studied history.
He only values shiny gold stuff.

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
52. Oh yes he does. Sadists always know the buttons to push.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:47 AM
Oct 22

They are experts are identifying what is valuable and important to others.
And then tormenting and torturing them with this information.

He himself does not value anything except his own skin, power and wealth.
He does not share the values of the American people or care about our country,
democracy, rule of law etc.

Trump deliberately tore up Jackie Kennedy's Rose Garden and the East Wing to
torment liberals. And the appointment of RFK Jr to humiliate the Kennedys further.
All purposeful.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
55. You have a professional understanding of this that I dont,
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:06 AM
Oct 22

so I accept your analysis, but still I doubt Trump has perused the history of the East Room or knows anything about Mary Lincoln redecorating or Willie suffering from typhoid fever while she held a ball there....
(I'm not sure yet whether the East Room has survived)

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
64. Yes I am able to put together a psych profile based on diagnoses and statistical probability.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:41 AM
Oct 22

Trained and experienced clinicians know very well how narcissists and psychopaths operate.
Also the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
And the best explanation for current behavior are past motives.

This is how the FBI, CIA, State Dept can put together very accurate profiles
of subjects.

Of course Trump does not know or care about American history.
And has no understanding of nuance or details.

The only thing he knows is that the White House is important to the American people.
And that it will hurt them when he destroys it.

I also think Trump is being advised by people with more sophistication and nuance.
But Trump just knows the basics or torturing and tormenting people to kill their spirit.

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
76. Reports tonight state the entire East Wing of the WH has been destroyed.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:42 PM
Oct 22

Trump knew all along this would happen.

MadameButterfly

(3,725 posts)
78. But I haven't heard mention of the East Room
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:25 PM
Oct 23

I'm guessing that is part of the White house itself and not the East Wing?

Irish_Dem

(79,459 posts)
79. Online it says East Room is not located in the East Wing.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:31 PM
Oct 23
The East Room is not in the East Wing; it is located on the State Floor of the main White House residence, while the East Wing is a separate building

littlemissmartypants

(31,506 posts)
72. I'm just weeping about each one of those lovely slate roofing tiles.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:09 PM
Oct 22

And that's just for starters.

GoCubsGo

(34,644 posts)
7. I want to see every last one of his fucking properties meet the same fate.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:10 PM
Oct 21

Take a goddamn wrecking ball to all of them. Or, fucking dynamite them. Plow under his fucking golf courses, and put solar farms on them.

benfranklin1776

(6,982 posts)
54. Yes 🙌🏼 Perfect example!
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:00 AM
Oct 22

Putting a monument of traitorism to use in service of a higher purpose-the ultimate act of beneficial recycling ♻️ ✊🏼

SuzyandPuffpuff

(394 posts)
8. Agreed
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:10 PM
Oct 21

Spencer House schlock. That's my fucking house and I want it back. He's doing it to b mean "bcz he's an eight year old gonna get even with you all" mentality.major piece of shit.

benfranklin1776

(6,982 posts)
11. Hell yes✊🏼
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:22 PM
Oct 21

It needs immediately thrown into a toxic waste dump, along with anything remotely associated with him and his terrorist sympathizers 🤬😡

Gore1FL

(22,817 posts)
17. If that stupid arc gets built, that needs to be turned to gravel during the first week, too. nt
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 06:51 PM
Oct 21

evemac

(270 posts)
21. For those of us who have gone through the
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:13 PM
Oct 21

trauma of hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and fires, seeing a house that is needlessly gutted is heart wrenching.
What a sfachime.

Prairie Gates

(7,134 posts)
22. 100% agree...none of this "it's spent money" nonsense: raze it to the motherfucking ground on DAY ONE
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:14 PM
Oct 21

democrank

(12,084 posts)
26. East Wing hit by a terrorist
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:34 PM
Oct 21

Not a peep from Republicans. They can’t even speak up when their Criminal Leader flattens part of the White House. What a disgrace.

0rganism

(25,456 posts)
28. Disagree, I think this "ballroom" needs to remain as a reminder, turn it into a museum for evidence of F47's perfidy
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 07:40 PM
Oct 21

Naturally, future presidents (should we be so lucky) should refuse to live there, but the damage needs to stay.

babylonsister

(172,559 posts)
31. Let him reenact it in his library.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:21 PM
Oct 21

His taste is gaudy imo. I already know I'm not going to like it.

He demolished a section of Our House with permission from no one.


I'm furious!!

GoCubsGo

(34,644 posts)
59. What better "fuck you" to him than to tear it down?
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:39 AM
Oct 22

And, remove every mark he put on that building, fake gold shit and all.

GoCubsGo

(34,644 posts)
58. No, it will likely be a death trap.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:36 AM
Oct 22

In Trump style, it will be poorly-designed, and slapped up with cheap materials. The first big snow, and down comes the roof. I'd rather my tax dollars fund the upkeep of all of our existing museums over that eyesore. We'll be digging out of this mess for generations as it is. We'll have enough reminders, like the way he fucked up our government, trade and other foreign relations...

0rganism

(25,456 posts)
71. Agree on safety, once serious people rebuild OSHA it will need a thorough inspection/renovation cycle before public use
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:07 PM
Oct 22

The reminders aren't for us, but for our great grandchildren (should we be so lucky). The entire process leading to this disaster needs to be studied; the price of losing democracies to tyranny is too damn high. Every schoolchild must know and appreciate the scope of this calamity, and the damage done directly to the WH is a perfect encapsulation.

GoCubsGo

(34,644 posts)
73. There will be plenty of other reminders.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:49 PM
Oct 22

That includes the missing East Wing, which is is in every photo of the White House up until now. Not to mention the damage he did to our country that will take generations to repair--if it can be repaired at all. Your grandkids are going have to live with the messes he created, including his hostility toward efforts to mitigate climate change. They're not going to think twice about that fucking ballroom, when they're sweltering in the heat, and drowning as the sea levels rise.

ChazInAz

(2,993 posts)
70. A certain Herr Hitler had a passion for grandiose construction scemes.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 12:54 PM
Oct 22

One of his pet projects was for a national amphitheater. A monstrous thing of black stone in (IIRC) Nuremberg. When the war started going badly, work stopped and the laborers downed tools to pick up weapons. It still looms in the heart of the city, just as it was left...with one addition. There is a museum of the Holocaust there, and a huge documentary library that serves as a research facility for historians and prosecuters.

Ilsa

(63,791 posts)
74. Set aside a space for the museum. Turn the rest
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 03:06 PM
Oct 22

into the large ceremonial room, offices, etc.

A ballroom will be wasted space, wasted air conditioning, etc. It's stupid, and probably just some vehicle for money laundering or theft.

Bozvotros

(951 posts)
32. I'm OK if they do it vice versa too.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:41 PM
Oct 21

And sending the bill for demolition and restoring the grounds and Whitehouse. And they can shove those stupid wishful phallic symbol flagpoles where the sun doesn't shine on him too.

LT Barclay

(3,168 posts)
33. I'll add it to my platform, along with demanding the immediate resignation of the sick 6 SCOTUS judges for continually
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:47 PM
Oct 21

violating the Constitution. If they refuse to comply a contingent of trustworthy Federal Marshalls will perp march them out of their chambers and they will be publicly stripped of the robes.

In addition I will prioritize the reunion of the families and children from the first round of this hell, apologize to the world for our behavior, and welcome back all the deported regardless of legal status. I also promise to stop provoking conflict around the world. And finally I promise to ship the J6ers and anyone involved with the illegal ICE raids off to the Hague as I could trust them for a fair and just trial. That would be impossible here.

Then that done, I promise to turn the whole show over to someone who is more capable Kamala Harris would be my first choice.

BlueKentuckyGirl

(515 posts)
34. Terrorist Attack
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:49 PM
Oct 21

When I look at this, I see Oklahoma City. It was the result of a terrorist attack and that is what this is. It was Timothy McVey then. It is Donald Trump now.

JHB

(37,915 posts)
45. I'll see that and raise you an "everyone whose 'donations' paid for it should be prosecuted for bribery"
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 01:50 AM
Oct 22

Crunchy Frog

(28,211 posts)
46. Yes! I don't want anyone who's too delicate or scared to act decisively on this. This is an abomination,
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 04:29 AM
Oct 22

and must be treated as such.

Elise Noa

(3 posts)
48. Home decor
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:09 AM
Oct 22

Here’s a measured reply you can use it pushes back on destructive talk while keeping the tone punchy and constructive:

I get the frustration — the Rose Garden and Oval Office feel like symbols that matter. That said, tearing things up or bulldozing them isn’t the answer. If you want the next president to reverse recent changes (like the Rose Garden paving) or remove gilded decor, the effective route is political and legal: vote, back candidates who promise restorations, push preservation groups, and pressure Congress or the National Park Service to act. Recent renovations to the Rose Garden and changes in the Oval have already sparked a lot of public debate.

Symbolic changes can be powerful restoration projects, new decor choices, and public ceremonies can rewrite the story without breaking the law. If you want, I can help draft a short social post or a letter to your representative calling for a thoughtful restoration plan.

RandiFan1290

(6,661 posts)
53. I will bet anyone that this will be allowed to stand.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 05:54 AM
Oct 22

They may remove the gold but the 'ballroom' will be allowed to stand.

I will bet any of you.

I've seen this movie too may times.

Queso Delicioso

(178 posts)
60. We'll never be rid of the stain, the stench of this administration.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 06:53 AM
Oct 22

It might fade with time, but it'll always be one of the most shameful eras in our history.

Martin Eden

(15,326 posts)
62. The important thing is it will be remembered in American history as a terrible stain
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:19 AM
Oct 22

That means Trumpist fascism will have failed, and will be labeled for what it was in history books read by future generations.

Because if fascism succeeds, the truth of what is happening now will be flushed down the Memory hole.

Otterdaemmerung

(136 posts)
66. Seize Mar-a-Lago for taxes...
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 09:25 AM
Oct 22

... then bulldoze the whole thing in front of Trump as he's forced to watch from his prison cell.

Paladin

(32,234 posts)
68. Couldn't possibly agree more.
Wed Oct 22, 2025, 11:21 AM
Oct 22

Clean up all of this shit, from the very first fucking day of Democratic leadership.

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