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Botany

(76,292 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:22 AM Oct 23

Please tell me this is all a bad dream.

Trump is is tearing down the East Wing of the White House in order to build an unneeded
ballroom that is almost 50% larger than the original White House and the first drawings
of the interior of the building has shit tons of gold crap.*

Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?


* https://democraticunderground.com/100220742593

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Please tell me this is all a bad dream. (Original Post) Botany Oct 23 OP
The psyop has entered the real world with stormtroopers and collaborators galore. rzemanfl Oct 23 #1
Felon-47 could destroy every monument in DC 31st Street Bridge Oct 23 #31
He literally enjoys when his actions hurt Democrats. n/t forgotmylogin Oct 23 #41
The majority of Americans appear to like it or don't care. Irish_Dem Oct 23 #2
We will deserve our demise. LuvLoogie Oct 23 #3
We found out it was all a house of cards, a mirage. Irish_Dem Oct 23 #4
Held together by SOME far B.See Oct 23 #6
They assumed people would always want to be free. Irish_Dem Oct 23 #8
Hate to say it but it is a twisted Karma visiting us IbogaProject Oct 23 #35
I will never for a second believe this country honestly & fairly elected him. BComplex Oct 23 #43
I agree. Irish_Dem Oct 23 #44
He had help from friends in low places. czarjak Oct 24 #53
No We Don't, Despite the USA's flaws. A serious % of us still try to improve it! electric_blue68 Oct 23 #32
I hear you. I just don't think we are up to it collectively as a people. LuvLoogie Oct 23 #37
Facts are facts. A majority of the US population loves Trump or doesn't care. Irish_Dem Oct 23 #49
Yes markodochartaigh Oct 23 #47
They will pay a very high price for their slumber. Irish_Dem Oct 24 #55
Our silence is his favorite sound Farmer-Rick Oct 23 #5
"protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day." Botany Oct 23 #13
that's sorta' how I started a protest NJCher Oct 23 #19
Good on you! electric_blue68 Oct 23 #33
Absolutely! yellow dahlia Oct 23 #26
I was listening to Dr. Gartner about Trump's mental condition-- viva la Oct 23 #7
he's the guy from Shrinking Trump NJCher Oct 23 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author yellow dahlia Oct 23 #27
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere... Escape Oct 23 #9
No. I mentioned in another thread hoping the artifacts were labeled and stored safely so they txwhitedove Oct 23 #14
A thing that I haven't seen mentioned is markodochartaigh Oct 23 #48
The pot of water is boiling Martin Eden Oct 23 #10
We are eating cake Puppyjive Oct 23 #11
He also wants to build himself an arch Ohioboy Oct 23 #12
We are going to need warriors to stop that nonsense. A human shield if you like. Botany Oct 23 #15
Oh, That Arch Will Be Built ColoringFool Oct 23 #16
Yes, we are enduring a continual living nightmare. ananda Oct 23 #17
Last night I looked at CNN briefly and saw yorkster Oct 23 #18
Once El Trumpi departs... BH liberal Oct 23 #21
And don't forget he is demanding $230 million for all the pain and suffering he experienced with the kimbutgar Oct 23 #22
His serious mental decline is on display for only asking for $230 million. rubbersole Oct 23 #23
"Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?" Wednesdays Oct 23 #24
Once the supposed conservatives realize what is going on, yellow dahlia Oct 23 #29
Sooo, the white house still gives tours Farmer-Rick Oct 23 #36
Hmm...back in summer ? '93, or '94 I didn't need to contact my Congress person...I think I did go to a separate... electric_blue68 Oct 24 #52
Yeah, I didn't go through Farmer-Rick Oct 24 #56
It's infuriating! electric_blue68 Oct 24 #57
We are all bothered by this! KS Toronado Oct 23 #25
Thats bdamomma Oct 23 #28
Botany, you have nailed it. gab13by13 Oct 23 #30
I decided a long time ago that the day Orange Julius Caesar won the 2016 election that we had been hurled generalbetrayus Oct 23 #34
Democrats need to run on tearing down the grotesque ballroom. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 23 #38
Where are the 'centrists?' nt RandiFan1290 Oct 23 #39
Mel Brooks, "It's good to be da king" BigmanPigman Oct 23 #40
It's alright... (sarcasm alert) Half-step Oct 23 #42
By now, any street protests ancianita Oct 23 #45
anytime... myohmy2 Oct 23 #46
Working people are too busy holding down 2 jobs to pay for a pound of hamburger. SunSeeker Oct 23 #50
He's flooding the world with hate, lies, chaos, crimes, violence and stupidity. ... Bread and Circuses Oct 23 #51
Not even George Orwell could have imagined this nightmare scenario. Bluepinky Oct 24 #54

rzemanfl

(31,083 posts)
1. The psyop has entered the real world with stormtroopers and collaborators galore.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:25 AM
Oct 23

These people need to be stopped.

31. Felon-47 could destroy every monument in DC
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:29 AM
Oct 23

...and nothing would be done. It's obvious that nothing short of revolution or mass secession will stop this assault on this former-nation. Signs and frog costumes didn't defeat Hitler.

Irish_Dem

(79,470 posts)
2. The majority of Americans appear to like it or don't care.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:34 AM
Oct 23

30% love Trump and whatever he does is great with them.
30% don't care in the least.
30% care but have no power.

Irish_Dem

(79,470 posts)
4. We found out it was all a house of cards, a mirage.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:54 AM
Oct 23

Held together with spit and a prayer.

B.See

(7,667 posts)
6. Held together by SOME far
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:07 AM
Oct 23

nobler people who once had a dream, founded upon ideas like principles, duty, honour, and integrity.

Things Trump and his cult of fascists, Insurrectionists, anarchists, and saboteurs know NOTHING about.

'Deplorables' doesn't quite capture their... ESSENCE.

Irish_Dem

(79,470 posts)
8. They assumed people would always want to be free.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:10 AM
Oct 23

To live in a democracy with rule of law, bill of rights, a constitution.

It did not occur to them that We The People would trash the entire system.
And elect a fascist leader.

yes greatest moral collapse in US history.

IbogaProject

(5,576 posts)
35. Hate to say it but it is a twisted Karma visiting us
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:37 PM
Oct 23

The USA has overturned many governments and trained many secret police. Unfortunately the wealthy who benefited of that eport of evil are not the ones receiving this "Karma". I just hope it helps some or all of the rest of the world improve towards justice and compassion with our bully country being reduced in power.

BComplex

(9,741 posts)
43. I will never for a second believe this country honestly & fairly elected him.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:00 PM
Oct 23

Not a chance in hell.

LuvLoogie

(8,482 posts)
37. I hear you. I just don't think we are up to it collectively as a people.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:24 PM
Oct 23

The greed and the hate just consume and destroy. I am tired of protecting hateful stupid people from the manipulations of greed, sociopaths, narcissists, and Nazis. I mean members of my own fucking extended family voted for this and are still all in, waiting for JD.
I don't care about the racist farmers, I don't care about the corporate persons. They don't even consider you human if you aren't in their corner of the DNA diaspora or can add to their bottom line. The religious and racial bigotry are as chronic and metastasized as the gun culture/violence in America.

I will go down swinging and loving. But fuck the MAGA and their officials.

And fuck the Super Bowl. It's a Bad Bunny concert.

Irish_Dem

(79,470 posts)
49. Facts are facts. A majority of the US population loves Trump or doesn't care.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:45 PM
Oct 23

One third of the US population voted for Trump. They like him and his crimes.
One third didn't vote at all, they don't give a damn.
One third voted for Harris.

So 2/3rds of the US population like Trump or don't care either way.
This is a majority of the US population.

markodochartaigh

(4,940 posts)
47. Yes
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:35 PM
Oct 23

this is the sort of bad dream a country has when one third of the electorate has been asleep.

Farmer-Rick

(12,420 posts)
5. Our silence is his favorite sound
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:59 AM
Oct 23

He wants silent submission to all his demented ideas. I think we need protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day.

Botany

(76,292 posts)
13. "protests every week.......you know in the end we will have to have them every day."
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:33 AM
Oct 23

Yup! I am going to stand on a street corner (E.N. Broadway and High Street in Columbus, OH @ noon
today) with my American Flag. We need to use the American Flag as our symbol of resistance and real patriotism.

NJCher

(42,366 posts)
19. that's sorta' how I started a protest
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:04 AM
Oct 23

It was back when the rw nutz were harrassing the daylights out of Clinton. I went to the streets of downtown Newark with a sign and people joined me. Never mind their signs were made from a flap off a cardboard box, it was their presence that counted.

yellow dahlia

(4,350 posts)
26. Absolutely!
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:51 AM
Oct 23

I say the same thing. Take back our symbols of patriotism.

I also think we need to keep the protests and visibility up. One or a few people is still a visibility event.

Mr. Dahlia and I attend a rally once week. We have been doing so since April.

I don't know anybody in Columbus - if I did I would suggest they join you.

viva la

(4,471 posts)
7. I was listening to Dr. Gartner about Trump's mental condition--
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:08 AM
Oct 23

And he said that the next step would be for Trump to start doing catastrophic things because of his delusions of grandeur and dementia and sadism-- like taking out fishing boats with bombs. The sudden and unapproved destruction of the East Wing is another one. AND NO ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR CONGRESS IS STOPPING HIM.

Response to viva la (Reply #7)

Escape

(369 posts)
9. Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:14 AM
Oct 23

but, I wonder if any important documents----you know, EVIDENCE---is being discarded or destroyed in this spontaneous destruction of government property? What all did they smash, crash and throw out the window?

Looky there...I just started a new Conspiracy Theory....

txwhitedove

(4,320 posts)
14. No. I mentioned in another thread hoping the artifacts were labeled and stored safely so they
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:36 AM
Oct 23

didn't end up at a golf course. Then again, in another thread there was a bit of a pile on by those saying it's just a building and not murdered people. I am just one old American in daily shock and grief over ALL of this lunacy.

markodochartaigh

(4,940 posts)
48. A thing that I haven't seen mentioned is
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:45 PM
Oct 23

the Presidential Communications Room under the East Wing. I wonder if Putin's communications experts will somehow get access to systems there.

Botany

(76,292 posts)
15. We are going to need warriors to stop that nonsense. A human shield if you like.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:54 AM
Oct 23


Ice agents are the Indians working for the British with the clubs and the protesters are the American People opposed to Trump.

ColoringFool

(219 posts)
16. Oh, That Arch Will Be Built
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:58 AM
Oct 23

Trump always telegraphs, either explicitly, implicitly, or by projection, what he is going to do.

He's already chosen his preference of the three mock-ups he was given. The largest, of course.

Here's hoping all the majestic horses in his Bigger Than Anyone's Ever funeral procession (you know there will be one) leading from the Arc de Trump to the Gilded Ballroom, defecate profusely in front of his hearse.

ananda

(34,326 posts)
17. Yes, we are enduring a continual living nightmare.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:00 AM
Oct 23

I'd have a hard time thinking of a worse sleeping one.

yorkster

(3,656 posts)
18. Last night I looked at CNN briefly and saw
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:01 AM
Oct 23

a mockup of the intended building. The picture was a closeup, so I couldn't tell if it was taken in the Offal Office. It conveyed more clearly than any rendering how massive this thing is.

As has been recently stated, it really does dwarf the White House.

BH liberal

(103 posts)
21. Once El Trumpi departs...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:21 AM
Oct 23

how often will the ballroom even be used? Since it won't be done for a long time, will Trump even be around to christen it?

kimbutgar

(26,728 posts)
22. And don't forget he is demanding $230 million for all the pain and suffering he experienced with the
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:28 AM
Oct 23

Investigations, impeachments and convictions he experienced during his first reign of terror

rubbersole

(10,971 posts)
23. His serious mental decline is on display for only asking for $230 million.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:42 AM
Oct 23

He got the Qatari jet ($400+ million) and billions in crypto bribes from the Middle East. C'mon donnie - get your head in the game! Ft Knox is all yours!

Wednesdays

(21,550 posts)
24. "Where are the crowds with pitchforks and torches?"
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:45 AM
Oct 23

There was 8 million of us out on the streets last weekend. Even though we didn't bring pitchforks and torches.

yellow dahlia

(4,350 posts)
29. Once the supposed conservatives realize what is going on,
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:05 AM
Oct 23

I wonder if they will react with something more than inflatable frog costumes and peace signs.

They're more of the pitchfork (weaponry) type. But then they would have to admit they are wrong.

Farmer-Rick

(12,420 posts)
36. Sooo, the white house still gives tours
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:01 PM
Oct 23

You have to go through your Congress Critter to get it booked. But I don't see that being a big problem. So many people hate my Republicon members that the Congress member will be glad for the attention. Or they may sell those tours for a donation since my Congress Critters are so money hungry.

But here is the info. I want to see what damage demented pedo Trump has done. I toured the White House back in the 1980s.

Tours of The White House include the public rooms in the East Wing and the Residence, which include the Vermeil Room, the Library, the China Room, the Blue Room, Red Room, Green Room, the State Dining Room, and a view of the White House Kennedy Garden. Secret Service Officers are stationed along the tour route and are available to answer questions about each room’s history, art, furnishings, current uses, and beyond.

Reserve your tour
White House tour requests should be made through your Member of Congress, which may be submitted 7 – 90 days in advance of the requested tour date.
Tours are generally available 7:30 a.m. to 11:30 a.m. Tuesday through Thursday as well as 7:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Friday through Saturday (excluding Federal holidays or unless otherwise noted). When possible, public tour hours will be extended based on the official White House schedule.

All White House tours are free of charge.
Tour schedules may change at any time, with little notice, due to inclement weather or scheduling conflicts, even after your tour is confirmed.

You may reach your Member of Congress through the United States Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121 (TTY: 202-225-1904), or online at congress.gov/members.

Operating hours and timely updates can be found at the 24hr information line: 202-456-7041.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/visit/

electric_blue68

(25,690 posts)
52. Hmm...back in summer ? '93, or '94 I didn't need to contact my Congress person...I think I did go to a separate...
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 12:39 AM
Oct 24

small building to pick up a WH Tour tix, and then went over to (sigh) the East Wing to enter, and be checked by security. Them off to the tour.

Farmer-Rick

(12,420 posts)
56. Yeah, I didn't go through
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 07:28 AM
Oct 24

My congressman back in the 1980s either. I just signed up in DC when I first got there 3 days before the tour.

I was just surprised they still did tours. And I thought if I could witness the damage up close, it would mean something.

He tore down the colonnade and the Jacqueline Kennedy garden too. My heart breaks. What I would have paid for a cornice piece or medallion from the wing; maybe a bush or plant from the garden. But no, it all had to be destroyed. It all had to be bulldozed into scrap and ruins.

gab13by13

(31,090 posts)
30. Botany, you have nailed it.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:07 AM
Oct 23

It will be up to us, the people, to throw out the billionaires and hopefully, we will get a significant number of unwashed Magats to join us.

I wanted Dems to vote no to the CR back in March.

I wanted all of our social safety net protected before the government was funded. I was attacked here for being anti-Democrat.

Now Dems voted no and we only have one main issue to fight for, reimbursements to Obamacare, a worthy goal to fight for but;
Since March, Magats passed the Big Ugly Death Bill that will gut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, the VA, with worst of the cuts taking effect Dec 1, 2026, after the election.

Time Mattered.

generalbetrayus

(1,485 posts)
34. I decided a long time ago that the day Orange Julius Caesar won the 2016 election that we had been hurled
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:55 AM
Oct 23

into an evil, alternate universe that we have been unable to escape since.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,366 posts)
38. Democrats need to run on tearing down the grotesque ballroom.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 02:23 PM
Oct 23

I see it as an umbrella issue for all others needed for refurbishing and restoration of the Republic trashed by the Trump regime.

BigmanPigman

(54,539 posts)
40. Mel Brooks, "It's good to be da king"
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 03:09 PM
Oct 23

tRump is building his own Palace of Versailles He is the KING and Melania is Marie Antoinette.

The fucking moron doesn't read so maybe he should watch the film "The History of The World, Part 1".

Things don't end well for the KING and his wifey.

Half-step

(115 posts)
42. It's alright... (sarcasm alert)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 03:39 PM
Oct 23

I heard that Melania wasn't really using the offices in the East Wing, anyway.

ancianita

(42,772 posts)
45. By now, any street protests
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:40 PM
Oct 23

make Americans feel sympathetic about the travesty of destruction, but that's it.
Trump would love to show the optics of that on his platforms.

"Where are ... pitchforks and torches?" You know why.
1. They're not allowed on WH grounds.
2. The 19th Cent. image is kinda weak.

Reality is taking him to court to make him pay for damages to the People's House.

myohmy2

(3,704 posts)
46. anytime...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:58 PM
Oct 23

...the Republicans want to stop, impeach and convict trump they can but they won't because they're all part of the same fascist movement sweeping the country and world...

...until we build and have a stronger countervailing movement to meet and beat these fascists this horrendous spectacle and destruction of our country will continue unabated...sorry

...many saw this coming but few took it seriously...

...hang in there...

SunSeeker

(57,467 posts)
50. Working people are too busy holding down 2 jobs to pay for a pound of hamburger.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:56 PM
Oct 23

If we want to get their attention, we need to tell them how we will make their lives better. Our problem has always been getting our message out through the wall of Republican lies.

Bread and Circuses

(1,508 posts)
51. He's flooding the world with hate, lies, chaos, crimes, violence and stupidity. ...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:14 PM
Oct 23

He and ALL republicans are evil .

We are under attack !

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