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Just_Vote_Dem

(3,527 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:02 AM Oct 23

NYC Mayor Eric Adams is endorsing Andrew Cuomo over Zohran Mamdani

New York City Mayor Eric Adams will endorse former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo on Thursday.

Adams, who previously labeled Cuomo “a snake and a liar” days before deciding to drop his reelection bid, is expected to confirm the announcement at a press conference focused on childcare, two sources told CNN.

“I can confirm that the Mayor will endorse former Governor Andrew M. Cuomo for mayor and intends to campaign alongside him,” Adams spokesperson Todd Shapiro said in a statement. “The time and locations for their joint appearances are currently being finalized.”

A spokesperson for the Cuomo campaign declined to comment.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/23/politics/eric-adams-nyc-mayoral-endorsement

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NYC Mayor Eric Adams is endorsing Andrew Cuomo over Zohran Mamdani (Original Post) Just_Vote_Dem Oct 23 OP
Of course he is. Ocelot II Oct 23 #1
Well of course he is. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 23 #2
absofuckinglutely..... democratsruletheday Oct 23 #83
Democrats need to run more candidates gab13by13 Oct 23 #3
You know... ZDU Oct 23 #4
No surprise. Birds of a feather... Ritabert Oct 23 #5
Trump ordered it Prairie Gates Oct 23 #6
agree Celerity Oct 23 #10
I don't get this MorbidButterflyTat Oct 23 #60
LOL Trump has openly stated that he wants Cuomo to win and all of MAGA Prairie Gates Oct 23 #95
I'm shocked! n/t returnee Oct 23 #7
I am not too crazy about personal qualities of either Adams or Cuomo, but there is a prohibition on DU Glorious bastard Oct 23 #8
Adams was running against the Democratic candidate, Cuomo still is muriel_volestrangler Oct 23 #9
I also spoke out against bashing Mamdani. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #18
Andrew Cuomo is a centrist, running as an independent. He is not a Democrat. Emile Oct 23 #19
He is a centrist, he is running as an independent, and he is a Democrat Glorious bastard Oct 23 #22
Sorry to disappoint you. He gave up on the democratic party and is now an independent. Emile Oct 23 #23
Every source I could fond lists his party affiliation as Democratic. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #24
When he lost the democratic primary to Zohran Mamdani. Emile Oct 23 #25
He did not. He lost the primary, as some Democrats occasionally do, but he remains a Democrat. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #34
If you think he's still a Democrat, you go with that. Do you think Cuomo is a better choice than Zohran Mamdani? Emile Oct 23 #37
Very few Democrats think Cuomo is not a Democrat. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #38
That's why he has an I by his name on the ballot, because you say he's a democratic politician. Okay Emile Oct 23 #40
Again, very few Democrats say he is not a Democrat. What I say is immaterial to this fact. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #44
Well, I don't consider him a Democrat anymore. He left the party. Emile Oct 23 #45
That's fine. But I can find no confirmation of him leaving the Party anywhere. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #63
Well it's not that hard to find. Andrew Cuomo Emile Oct 23 #68
Not difficult at all. It is just as easy to find his party affiliation. A Democrat, according to all available sources. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #80
He is not the Democratic nominee. nt mr715 Oct 23 #47
I am not disputing that. But he is still a Democrat. Not such a difficult distinction. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #78
Labels mr715 Oct 23 #85
The consequence of losing a primary is losing a primary, not losing party affiliation. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #89
Wrong, he lost his party affiliation when he decided Emile Oct 23 #92
Find me a single official record that says Cuomo is not a Democrat, and then we can talk some more. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #96
Look up a sample ballot for the NYC Mayoral election Quiet Em Oct 23 #97
He is a Democrat. It's like when Katie Porter lost to Schiff in the Nixie Oct 24 #100
Cuomo is running against the Democratic nominee as an Independent ms liberty Oct 23 #29
The "therefore" appears contrary to the DU Terms of Service. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #39
Nope SunImp Oct 23 #49
I wouldn't consider phrases like "fair game" to be constructive, or criticism, for that matter. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #56
Cuomo is not currently an elected official, and this is an election period ms liberty Oct 23 #59
Here is the rule Quiet Em Oct 23 #67
"Do not post support" doesn't make posting contempt obligatory. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #73
You know, Cuomo went full blown MAGA today on a radio show Quiet Em Oct 23 #74
As the person who co-wrote the TOS, I can weigh in on this EarlG Oct 24 #108
Correct. Cuomo clarified very well at last night's debate Nixie Oct 23 #33
Who cares what Cuomo "explained" mr715 Oct 23 #50
Exactly, he left the democratic party and is irrelevant. Emile Oct 24 #110
I've noticed that MorbidButterflyTat Oct 23 #55
Nothing wrong with centrism. mr715 Oct 23 #57
+1, And that "centrists" aren't Democrats. That's how far down the rabbit Nixie Oct 23 #62
Cuomo decisively lost the Democratic nomination Prairie Gates Oct 23 #79
Also, Cuomo didn't try mr715 Oct 23 #84
By continuing to run after the Democratic voters rejected him, Cuomo has disgraced himself and his father's memory Prairie Gates Oct 23 #90
Via context mr715 Oct 24 #111
Cuomo isn't a "centrist" - he's a sexual harasser collaborating with the rapist Trump. muriel_volestrangler Oct 24 #99
Andrew Cuomo built a reputation as a centrist Democrat. Emile Oct 24 #105
Cuomo is, and Adams was (and is now supporting) an 'independent/third-party "spoiler" candidate' muriel_volestrangler Oct 23 #30
There is a fine line between supporting a third party candidate and objecting to bashing a Democrat. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #36
you are posting misinformation: Celerity Oct 23 #69
Our lying eyes. nt mr715 Oct 23 #70
I was referring to the three candidates mentioned in the OP header. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #75
Adams (who was, BTW, a Rethug at one point) is not running against anyone, he dropped out Celerity Oct 23 #82
This doesn't make sense on so many levels, Glorious bastard Oct 23 #88
Again you are not addressing my specific calling out of your misinformation, and now you are attempting to muddy Celerity Oct 23 #94
If I see bashing or 'RW hysteria' around here, I'll be sure to take note of it. Torchlight Oct 23 #11
Any negative comments about any Democrat are fodder for right wing media. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #20
Please stop policing members of du Keepthesoulalive Oct 23 #27
What? Glorious bastard Oct 23 #32
Exactly. There seems to be a huge double standard. Bernie Sanders Nixie Oct 23 #35
As you know full well, Sanders doesn't run against Democrats in general elections muriel_volestrangler Oct 24 #101
Cuomo is a pervert that got ran out of office, why are you defending him? questionseverything Oct 24 #106
I am not attempting to censor your speech. Keepthesoulalive Oct 23 #41
It is DU administrators who tell members what is acceptable. They have every right to do so. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #43
I am aware of the rules Keepthesoulalive Oct 23 #46
You may not require my gatekeeping, but it couldn't hurt. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #76
As I said if they don't like what I'm saying Keepthesoulalive Oct 23 #93
Why don't you ask the Administrators if Cuomo is a Democrat. Emile Oct 24 #103
DU administrator here EarlG Oct 24 #109
Thank you for weighing in. mr715 Oct 24 #113
Simply alert on the post. Torchlight Oct 23 #31
Why would I do that? I am here to hear people out, not shut them up. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #42
I do not want SEX PEST Cuomo to win. democrank Oct 24 #107
As far as Sliwa SocialDemocrat61 Oct 23 #13
Sliwa seems to be motivated mr715 Oct 23 #53
Mamdani is the Democratic Candidate obamanut2012 Oct 23 #15
Curtis Sliwa mr715 Oct 23 #54
Cuomo isn't the Democratic nominee iemanja Oct 23 #58
You are correct on all counts. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #64
So I'm supposed to act favorably toward a sexual predator? iemanja Oct 23 #66
Absolutely not. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #86
The Andrew Cuomo Campaign Is All in on MAGA Influencers Celerity Oct 23 #72
Is Andrew Cuomo no longer a registered Democrat? Glorious bastard Oct 23 #81
He may well be, but that's irrelevant, as Cuomo lost the Democratic primary and is now running as sore loser/ Celerity Oct 23 #87
As a spoiler candidate, he cannot be supported. As a Democrat he cannot be bashed. Glorious bastard Oct 23 #91
No, you still don't get it. He is running against the only official Democrat - therefore he is not a Democrat muriel_volestrangler Oct 24 #98
I refute it thus: mr715 Oct 24 #112
Translation: Criminal endorses Sex Predator SocialDemocrat61 Oct 23 #12
+1 Celerity Oct 23 #21
Paying off his debt to trmp. spanone Oct 23 #14
Yep. Spot on. underpants Oct 23 #26
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Passages Oct 23 #16
Who? n/t aocommunalpunch Oct 23 #17
Well duh SSJVegeta Oct 23 #28
He is so unpopular edhopper Oct 23 #48
This makes good people smile SunImp Oct 23 #52
Well, why is this a surprise? Polybius Oct 23 #51
This is good news for Zohran Mamdani, right? herding cats Oct 23 #61
Yes. mr715 Oct 23 #65
That's music to my ears! herding cats Oct 23 #71
The calculus for the endorsement most likely has to do with NYC's uniformed services. lapucelle Oct 24 #104
That is probably a plus for Mandomi doc03 Oct 23 #77
Adams always gave me the shivers Joinfortmill Oct 24 #102

BlueTsunami2018

(4,829 posts)
2. Well of course he is.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:04 AM
Oct 23

He’s as corrupt and contemptible as Cuomo. Birds of a feather.

I doubt very much this helps anyone other than Mamdani.

ZDU

(1,074 posts)
4. You know...
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:15 AM
Oct 23

I'd like to say, "Surprise, fucking surprise!" ... yet we're not surprised now, are we?

Prairie Gates

(7,133 posts)
6. Trump ordered it
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:54 AM
Oct 23

The current mayor of New York City is a Trump puppet as a result of a renewable federal indictment hanging over his head. He will have to do whatever the Master wants, or end up in the federal penitentiary.

It's quite the incredible arrangement.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,126 posts)
60. I don't get this
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:14 PM
Oct 23

Why would *rump want the current mayor to endorse Cuomo? Cuomo destroyed *rump during covid. Mr. Eggshell Ego couldn't possibly forget that.

Prairie Gates

(7,133 posts)
95. LOL Trump has openly stated that he wants Cuomo to win and all of MAGA
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:03 PM
Oct 23

have been trashing Sliwa for weeks for not dropping out in favor of Cuomo. Are you seriously on this board pretending that Cuomo is not Trump's candidate for mayor?

Mamdani won the Democratic primary decisively.


:

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
8. I am not too crazy about personal qualities of either Adams or Cuomo, but there is a prohibition on DU
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:33 PM
Oct 23

Against bashing Democrats.

Can we please stop feeding the right wing hysteria about NYC mayoral candidates? That goes for Mamdani as well.

Anyone have anything to say about Curtis Sliwa?

muriel_volestrangler

(105,496 posts)
9. Adams was running against the Democratic candidate, Cuomo still is
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 01:47 PM
Oct 23

There's no prohibition against bashing either of them.

What kind of "hysteria" do you think is fed on DU?

Sliwa? He's an excellent insult comic.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
18. I also spoke out against bashing Mamdani.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:38 PM
Oct 23

And there is prohibition against bashing them:

Support Democrats
Do not post support for Republicans or independent/third-party "spoiler" candidates. Do not state that you are not going to vote, or that you will write-in a candidate that is not on the ballot, or that you intend to vote for any candidate other than the official Democratic nominee in any general election where a Democrat is on the ballot. Do not post anything that smears Democrats generally, or that is intended to dissuade people from supporting the Democratic Party or its candidates. Don't argue there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats.


On the other hand, there is also this:
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).


What we have in this case is two longtime Democrats running against a Democratic Party nominee who is not a Democrat. Between the two rules cited above, there are prohibitions against negative comments with respect to all three of the above candidates: one as a Democratic nominee and two as Democrats generally.

The hysteria I mentioned is sure to be fed by the Republican news sources, not on DU. I can’t imagine you disagreeing with that, and there is no need to get defensive about it.

Naturally, positive comments about a candidate of your choice are perfectly fine.
 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
22. He is a centrist, he is running as an independent, and he is a Democrat
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:58 PM
Oct 23

It is not unheard of for a registered Democrat or a Republican to run as an independent, or a registered independent to run as a Democrat or a Republican.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
24. Every source I could fond lists his party affiliation as Democratic.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:07 PM
Oct 23

When did he change his party affiliation?

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
34. He did not. He lost the primary, as some Democrats occasionally do, but he remains a Democrat.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:03 PM
Oct 23

It’s his choice, irrespective of election results.

Emile

(40,393 posts)
37. If you think he's still a Democrat, you go with that. Do you think Cuomo is a better choice than Zohran Mamdani?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:10 PM
Oct 23

Emile

(40,393 posts)
40. That's why he has an I by his name on the ballot, because you say he's a democratic politician. Okay
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:18 PM
Oct 23

Emile

(40,393 posts)
68. Well it's not that hard to find. Andrew Cuomo
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:02 PM
Oct 23

is on the ballot as an independent candidate for the 2025 New York City mayoral election.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
80. Not difficult at all. It is just as easy to find his party affiliation. A Democrat, according to all available sources.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:07 PM
Oct 23

mr715

(2,614 posts)
85. Labels
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:19 PM
Oct 23

He can call himself whatever he wants. For the purposes of party support, in this race, he is not protected under the aegis of "being a Democrat". That is a consequence of losing a primary. There is in illegitimacy to his claims of "being a Democrat". Lieberman did the same shit.



 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
89. The consequence of losing a primary is losing a primary, not losing party affiliation.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:44 PM
Oct 23

Never was. Still isn’t.

Emile

(40,393 posts)
92. Wrong, he lost his party affiliation when he decided
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:55 PM
Oct 23

to run against the democratic nominee as an independent.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
96. Find me a single official record that says Cuomo is not a Democrat, and then we can talk some more.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:09 PM
Oct 23

Until then, good luck.

Quiet Em

(2,523 posts)
97. Look up a sample ballot for the NYC Mayoral election
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 11:57 PM
Oct 23

Mamdani is the Democratic candidate. The only Democratic candidate.

Cuomo is not a Democratic candidate. Cuomo is listed way down the ballot on his own Independent line.

Nixie

(17,936 posts)
100. He is a Democrat. It's like when Katie Porter lost to Schiff in the
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:08 AM
Oct 24

California primary, she didn’t stop being a Democrat. It’s just that California takes the top 3 primary finishers to run in the general. But a primary loss doesn’t stop someone from being a Democrat. This is an unbelievable faux outrage going on here about this, lol.

ms liberty

(10,941 posts)
29. Cuomo is running against the Democratic nominee as an Independent
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:23 PM
Oct 23

Therefore he is fair game here at DU.

SunImp

(2,607 posts)
49. Nope
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:43 PM
Oct 23

Core Principles
Democratic Underground is an online community for friendly, politically liberal people who understand the importance of working together to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of American government. Constructive criticism of Democratic politicians, party officials, and public figures is welcome and encouraged, but we expect our members to follow our forum rules and participate in a manner which promotes a positive atmosphere

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
56. I wouldn't consider phrases like "fair game" to be constructive, or criticism, for that matter.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:00 PM
Oct 23

ms liberty

(10,941 posts)
59. Cuomo is not currently an elected official, and this is an election period
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:13 PM
Oct 23

I get that you read the TOS when you joined last month and that you remember what you read. What you need to do now is reread it, focusing on elections and campaigns. Then reread my previous comment.

Quiet Em

(2,523 posts)
67. Here is the rule
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:54 PM
Oct 23
Do not post support for Republicans or independent/third-party "spoiler" candidates. Do not state that you are not going to vote, or that you will write-in a candidate that is not on the ballot, or that you intend to vote for any candidate other than the official Democratic nominee in any general election where a Democrat is on the ballot.


Mamdani is the official Democratic nominee, not Cuomo. Cuomo is the independent/"spoiler" candidate.
 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
73. "Do not post support" doesn't make posting contempt obligatory.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:48 PM
Oct 23

And if that candidate is a Democrat, posting contempt is forbidden by a d8fferent rule which I cited earlier.

Quiet Em

(2,523 posts)
74. You know, Cuomo went full blown MAGA today on a radio show
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:53 PM
Oct 23

Did you hear the disgusting Islamophobic remark and suggestion he made?

He deserves being called out. What he said is not what Democrats stand for. Disgusting. He is no better than MAGA or the con at this point.

And once again, Cuomo is NOT the Democratic nominee, he is running against the Democratic nominee as a spoiler and that puts him on the wrong side of the rules on this site.

EarlG

(23,283 posts)
108. As the person who co-wrote the TOS, I can weigh in on this
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 06:58 AM
Oct 24

There was a Democratic primary which Cuomo lost and Mamdani won. Therefore, Mamdani is the Democratic candidate. The DU rules are clear on what happens next:

Support Democrats: Do not post support for Republicans or independent/third-party "spoiler" candidates. Do not state that you are not going to vote, or that you will write-in a candidate that is not on the ballot, or that you intend to vote for any candidate other than the official Democratic nominee in any general election where a Democrat is on the ballot.

Cuomo may still be a registered Democrat, but he is currently running as a third-party spoiler in a general election against the official Democratic candidate. Which means that unlike Mamdani, he is not protected by the TOS.

Nixie

(17,936 posts)
33. Correct. Cuomo clarified very well at last night's debate
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:02 PM
Oct 23

what is happening. The distinction is that the Democratic Socialist calls himself a Democrat. Cuomo is a Democrat.

So Cuomo last night explained:

—The Democratic Socialist is running as a Democrat.

—Then Cuomo clarified that he is a Democrat running as an Independent.

But look at the warping going on trying to demonize other Democrats by slurring what they call “centrists.” Centrists are most of the party. You would think this would not still be a ridiculous and pointless divisive moral superiority.

mr715

(2,614 posts)
57. Nothing wrong with centrism.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:03 PM
Oct 23

Elections have consequences and centrism didn't win.

And I don't know how radical Mamdani is on an objective, global view of politics. He is probably mildly to the left of De Blasio.

Edit: With regard to Cuomo, the consequence of having lost the election is definitionally not being a Democrat. Cuomo isn't a centrist, he is a Cuomoist.

Nixie

(17,936 posts)
62. +1, And that "centrists" aren't Democrats. That's how far down the rabbit
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:18 PM
Oct 23

hole this nonsense goes.

Prairie Gates

(7,133 posts)
79. Cuomo decisively lost the Democratic nomination
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:07 PM
Oct 23

Like, by a lot. The Democratic voters of NYC chose Mamdani to represent the Democratic Party, not sex pest Andrew Cuomo, who is running AGAINST the Democrat.

mr715

(2,614 posts)
84. Also, Cuomo didn't try
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:12 PM
Oct 23

He seems so contemptuous of his electorate. Mamdani wrecked him. Cleaned his clock. He was slack-jawed after.

Prairie Gates

(7,133 posts)
90. By continuing to run after the Democratic voters rejected him, Cuomo has disgraced himself and his father's memory
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:44 PM
Oct 23

His father was a good Democrat and a good man. I met him walking down 5th Avenue after he had been governor. He stopped and talked to me with respect and kindness. God bless Mario Cuomo, un uomo d'onore. His sons, on the other hand, fanno schifo.

mr715

(2,614 posts)
111. Via context
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 05:31 PM
Oct 24

I feel that you have effectively communicated to me despite having no Italian.

Love it.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,496 posts)
99. Cuomo isn't a "centrist" - he's a sexual harasser collaborating with the rapist Trump.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:06 AM
Oct 24

He is fighting the Democratic party. He is, therefore, not a Democrat.

Mamdani was elected to the Assembly as a Democrat, three times: https://results.elections.ny.gov/candidate/770

I'm appalled you're taking the word of a sexual harasser and enemy of the Democratic party for "what's what".

Emile

(40,393 posts)
105. Andrew Cuomo built a reputation as a centrist Democrat.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:48 AM
Oct 24

Last edited Fri Oct 24, 2025, 07:44 AM - Edit history (1)

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/cuomo-belligerent-democratic-centrists.html

No one here is slurring his centrist position. Now he's running as a centrist Independent.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,496 posts)
30. Cuomo is, and Adams was (and is now supporting) an 'independent/third-party "spoiler" candidate'
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:35 PM
Oct 23

and Mamdani is that 'official Democratic nominee in any general election where a Democrat is on the ballot'. Support for Cuomo is forbidden now, and negative comments are allowed about Adams and Cuomo, because they oppose the official party candidate.

I "got defensive" because you said "can we please stop feeding ...". That "we" means you and ... someone else ... is currently feeding the hysteria. Since you address it to readers of DU, it can't have meant "Republican news sources", and must have meant DU.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
36. There is a fine line between supporting a third party candidate and objecting to bashing a Democrat.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:09 PM
Oct 23

I didn’t do the former, I did the latter.

Celerity

(53,569 posts)
69. you are posting misinformation:
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:06 PM
Oct 23

you said

What we have in this case is two longtime Democrats running against a Democratic Party nominee who is not a Democrat.


The 3 candidates are Sliwa, a Rethug, Mamdani, a Democrat AND the winner of the Democratic primary, and then Cuomo, who, Dem still or not, is running as a independent sore/loser spoiler candidate in the general (and thus cannot be supported on DU).

Mamdani is a Democrat. The DSA is not a political party, they are a political org who endorses candidates sometimes, and democratic socialism is his political philosophy. There is no Democratic Socialist party that Mamdani is running on. New York has a fusion party system where candidates can run on multiple lines, and Mamdani (like multiple other Dems) also has run on the Working Families Party line since 2022. In 2020 he only ran as a Democrat.



https://ballotpedia.org/Zohran_Mamdani







 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
75. I was referring to the three candidates mentioned in the OP header.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:57 PM
Oct 23

I don’t see how anyone would be misinformed by this reference, but if you consider it to be misinformation, please reply to the OP.

Celerity

(53,569 posts)
82. Adams (who was, BTW, a Rethug at one point) is not running against anyone, he dropped out
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:09 PM
Oct 23

again, you said:

What we have in this case is two longtime Democrats running against a Democratic Party nominee who is not a Democrat.


So, swapping out Sliwa for Adams (as you are saying now that that is who you meant, and I accept that, all good) does nothing to address the misinformation I pointed out.



 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
88. This doesn't make sense on so many levels,
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:41 PM
Oct 23

The two longtime Democrats obviously refer to Adams and Cuomo. The third one is obviously Republican Sliwa.

Adams dropping out doesn’t change this reference and doesn’t swap out (the meaning and the purpose of this word choice completely escapes me) anyone for anyone else. The context in which I meant Adam’s, Cuomo and Sliwa is self-evident and is rather hard to spin, so if this is your way to convince yourself that you had a valid point in your previous post, by all means, I don’t mind: consider your claims of misinformation unaddressed. I am ok with that.

Celerity

(53,569 posts)
94. Again you are not addressing my specific calling out of your misinformation, and now you are attempting to muddy
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 10:00 PM
Oct 23

the water.

Here again is what I said in my reply to you (post 69)

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220743310#post69

you said

What we have in this case is two longtime Democrats running against a Democratic Party nominee who is not a Democrat.


The 3 candidates are Sliwa, a Rethug, Mamdani, a Democrat AND the winner of the Democratic primary, and then Cuomo, who, Dem still or not, is running as a independent sore/loser spoiler candidate in the general (and thus cannot be supported on DU).

Mamdani is a Democrat. The DSA is not a political party, they are a political org who endorses candidates sometimes, and democratic socialism is his political philosophy. There is no Democratic Socialist party that Mamdani is running on. New York has a fusion party system where candidates can run on multiple lines, and Mamdani (like multiple other Dems) also has run on the Working Families Party line since 2022. In 2020 he only ran as a Democrat.



https://ballotpedia.org/Zohran_Mamdani










Replace (ie swap out) the name Sliwa (who I mentioned once, as you said 'running' in your post I replied to, which is present tense and Adams has already dropped out) with the name Adams in my reply and nothing of material import changes in regards to my specific and clear rebutting of your misinformation (in your post 18 https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220743310#post18 ).
 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
20. Any negative comments about any Democrat are fodder for right wing media.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:49 PM
Oct 23

Of course you will not see it on DU, but look elsewhere, and you can’t miss it. I have seen several right wingers elsewhere citing DU out of context and mocking Democrats who bash Democrats.

This is why we have rules against bashing Democrats on DU.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,103 posts)
27. Please stop policing members of du
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:20 PM
Oct 23

We understand who is a democrat and who is not, not all people under the banner are democrats. If anyone in our party is corrupt we call it out. The former mayor of New York is a real piece of work. As for right wingers I am not concerned about them, they are the biggest liars and sheeple I have ever seen.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
32. What?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:00 PM
Oct 23

Who am I policing? What are you talking about? Is this an issue attempt to shut me up?

It’s not going to work.

Nixie

(17,936 posts)
35. Exactly. There seems to be a huge double standard. Bernie Sanders
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:05 PM
Oct 23

is an Independent and there aren’t these kinds of slurs about Bernie and how he uses our party. At least Cuomo is a life-long Democrat.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,496 posts)
101. As you know full well, Sanders doesn't run against Democrats in general elections
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:16 AM
Oct 24

which is why he's OK, and Cuomo is not. Plus, of course, Cuomo is a sexual harasser.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,103 posts)
41. I am not attempting to censor your speech.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:18 PM
Oct 23

You have no authority to tell members of du what is acceptable in terms of democratic candidates. You can say what you like and I can tell you what I think.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
43. It is DU administrators who tell members what is acceptable. They have every right to do so.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:21 PM
Oct 23

I am just quoting the rules.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,103 posts)
46. I am aware of the rules
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:38 PM
Oct 23

I don’t require your gatekeeping. If the administrators or mirt has a problem with my posts they will let me know.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
76. You may not require my gatekeeping, but it couldn't hurt.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:00 PM
Oct 23

What gates am I keeping by referring to the rules anyway?

Keepthesoulalive

(2,103 posts)
93. As I said if they don't like what I'm saying
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:59 PM
Oct 23

They will use the remedies that are available. If any democrat acts like the current clown in chief, my criticism will make a New Yorker blush.

Emile

(40,393 posts)
103. Why don't you ask the Administrators if Cuomo is a Democrat.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:42 AM
Oct 24

You can ask this question in the Administrators forum.

EarlG

(23,283 posts)
109. DU administrator here
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 07:05 AM
Oct 24

I just replied to you above also, but since you mentioned me by name I’ll reply to you here as well.

Andrew Cuomo does not have any protections under the DU rules right now because he is an independent/third party spoiler who lost the Democratic primary but decided to run against the winner of the Democratic primary anyway. Whether he is a registered Democrat or not is irrelevant at this point in time.

Edited to add: Never mind, I see you already know the rules because you were a long term member who was flagged for review and who has come back under another name, so this is all just one big trolling effort. Still, at least this has hopefully given people a better understanding of the rules.

mr715

(2,614 posts)
53. Sliwa seems to be motivated
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:47 PM
Oct 23

by a deep hatred of Andrew Cuomo. It makes for good political theater.

mr715

(2,614 posts)
54. Curtis Sliwa
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:52 PM
Oct 23

Is surprisingly coherent without his little hat. He is a run of the mill xenophobe racist police nut, but he actually articulated criticisms of Cuomo that were valid.

He's crazy, and he hates Cuomo.

iemanja

(57,336 posts)
58. Cuomo isn't the Democratic nominee
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:08 PM
Oct 23

He lost to Mamdani. We support the nominee, not sore losers. Voting for Silwa and Cuomo are the same thing. Both have kowtowed to Trump.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
64. You are correct on all counts.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:41 PM
Oct 23

Last edited Thu Oct 23, 2025, 08:41 PM - Edit history (1)

What I am saying is that bashing a Democrat does not have to go hand in hand with withdrawing support from him.

iemanja

(57,336 posts)
66. So I'm supposed to act favorably toward a sexual predator?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 07:45 PM
Oct 23

Because you claim the Trump-endorsed candidate is a Democrat? I don't think so.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
86. Absolutely not.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:20 PM
Oct 23

Not acting favorably does not compel you to act unfavorably, although, if this thread were about Cuomo as a person and not a mayoral contender and a Democrat (which is not what I say but his actual party affiliation says), I would have gladly joined you in your expressions of disfavor. It’s all in the context.

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
81. Is Andrew Cuomo no longer a registered Democrat?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:09 PM
Oct 23

I am not asking anyone to extend any sympathy to Cuomo, only to acknowledge his party affiliation.

Is that such a difficult request?

Celerity

(53,569 posts)
87. He may well be, but that's irrelevant, as Cuomo lost the Democratic primary and is now running as sore loser/
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:39 PM
Oct 23

spoiler independent candidate against the Democratic candidate, the winner of the Dem primary, and thus, cannot be be supported here per DU TOS.

It is completely fair game to point out Cuomo's cozying up to the RW and his islamophobic smearing of the Democratic general candidate, (Mamdani), both of which I documented in post 72, here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220743310#post72

 

Glorious bastard

(174 posts)
91. As a spoiler candidate, he cannot be supported. As a Democrat he cannot be bashed.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 09:50 PM
Oct 23

Both are in the rules. The two rules are not mutually contradictory. I don’t find it particularly difficult to follow both.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,496 posts)
98. No, you still don't get it. He is running against the only official Democrat - therefore he is not a Democrat
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 03:58 AM
Oct 24

and he can he bashed.

In fact, when his sexual harassment became apparent, he could be bashed for that - constructive criticism is allowed. And now that he's opposing the Democratic party, he can be bashed for anything.

You haven't been here in a general election before. You just don't understand the rules.

Polybius

(21,426 posts)
51. Well, why is this a surprise?
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 06:44 PM
Oct 23

Why would he endorse Mamdani? Adams' positions are much closer to Cuomo's.

lapucelle

(20,932 posts)
104. The calculus for the endorsement most likely has to do with NYC's uniformed services.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:46 AM
Oct 24

FDNY and NYPD had endorsed Adams in the general. Now that Adams is out, those votes are up for grab.

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