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I don't know how this is going to end, but it will end. The good guys will be on the right side of history, even if Trump turns this country into a smoking crater. And the way he is moving, like a juggernaut, we may indeed be left with exactly that...a hole in the ground.
This is why we must be strong.
Every soul, whether on the right, or on the left, may be left with a smoking crater, faced with the task of rebuilding.
How are they going to feel when they lose their homes and cannot afford food?
How is the "fuck your feelings" crowd going to reconcile this?
Are they still going to try to own the libs?
How are they going to reconcile the disappearance of their friends and family? He wasn't supposed to go after them.
The lost relationships.
The years of worshiping an immoral man, a cartoon.
All of the MAGA swag in their closets.
Will they just look at it and cry?
More than a decade of in-your-face hate.
Will they see it...while standing in the crater?
Will it hit them all at once, or will it be a gradual realization?
Are we going to forgive them...for what they themselves caused?
Are we going to say "I told you so", or are we going to reconcile?
Will they stick to their guns until they die?
Until they die with their hate?
usonian
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LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)but I've always believed that this will end with violence.
usonian
(23,373 posts)Other than the slain legislators,
If they haven't killed us yet, with all the dehumanizing in their brainwash channels, they will 2A themselves. Again.
A sense if betrayal is one of the few ways that people detatch from cults.
And there's Mussolini, closest parallel I can see to the current fascist outbreak.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)He's moving fast purposely.
There's going to be a spark. And I think it may happen within a month.
An ICE agent is going to get shot. And that will likely be the spark.
And I draw parallels to Mussolini as well.
Will it end in the same way as Mussolini?
Maybe, but the Italians were different than the current state of the American populace.
Do we have the will to end this?
usonian
(23,373 posts)It will do him in, and many others. Better sooner than later.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608
He's not a "victim". He's the inheritor of the Trump/Epstein blackmail operation.
Andrew is the first domino to fall. That is accelerating as well.
Buckle up.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)I think it's too late.
If all that information comes out, will they step down?
I don't think so.
They are like pitbulls chewing on a wasp.
They have come this far and they won't give up.
They'll spin, they'll lie, they'll insist the files were doctored.
Just like they easily convinced people that everything is AI or fake news.
Tree Lady
(12,979 posts)Social media with it, so they could say that.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)You could see it coming then as well.
Everything was rapidly going sideways when it came to information dissemination.
Tree Lady
(12,979 posts)I don't believe any of it but you can tell by the comments most do believe it.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)that will believe any written text or spoken word they are presented with.
That's what Facebook taught me, and that's why I left.
It's unfortunate to say the least.
Ollie Garkie
(332 posts)There will be no "spark". No one will shoot an ICE agent. We will continue to just sleepwalk into fascism. Americans are too compliant and apathetic to actually do anything dramatic, even misguidedly dramatic.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)Hard to tell what the MAGAs will do.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)I saw it in 2015, while he was running for President.
A horrible feeling of dread, without really knowing why yet.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)We could not even imagine him kidnapping people off the street and sending them to death camps.
Taking a literal wrecking ball to the White House.
Destroying the federal government.
Taking away health care.
Destroying education, science, etc.
Grifting and out right theft on such a huge scale.
Etc etc.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)But I felt a deep dread, knowing it would be some ungodly series of events.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)How much worse will it get?
Will it ever get better?
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)Worse than we think.
Which means we resist.
We do everything we can to resist.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)Same as what my gut is telling me.
And the data is there to support it.
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
yellow dahlia
(4,350 posts)haele
(15,044 posts)A lot depends of if enough states can hold together, because otherwise, it's the fall of the Soviet Union in the early 90's .
The Oligarchs are already jostling for position.
Primary difference is that the majority of the US population is still not quite yet a collection of discouraged, fatalistic drunken serfs.
Too many middle class folks that remember decent wages, freedom to move about, and a comfortable life, and they're not going to handle losing those things very well.
yellow dahlia
(4,350 posts)I knew it would be bad, but OY! So much evil! So much corruption! So much crime against the Republic and the people!
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)I swear that sometimes I think I'm dreaming this.
yellow dahlia
(4,350 posts)Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)He is waging war with the world and his own country and people.
Aristus
(71,587 posts)they never would have made Trump their entire miserable, pathetic existence in the first place.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)and their live changed irreversibly.
It could smack them right in the face, and they will still deny it.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)So they are willing to do anything to avoid facing reality.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)I wish I were smarter. I don't know the answer.
If someone's focused intent is to kill you, they will run through a brick wall to do it, and worry about their injuries later.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)greed, and egos.
All of this goddamn nonsense going on for a decade.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)Yes the GOP has been tormenting, punishing, and torturing us for over a decade.
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)Mike Johnson is going to keep from killing himself.
I think the Gov't is shut down for good.
And there is fear in his voice.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)Though if painted into a corner they might consider it.
What do you think little Mike is afraid of?
LuckyCharms
(21,519 posts)with no intention of ever reopening the Government.
Trump is taking this opportunity to go balls to the wall. It's perfect for him.
And I think Mike Johnson was given a decision to make.
He's weak, and now he's stuck.
He's in over his head. He doesn't have the strength to take on Trump.
Irish_Dem
(79,459 posts)And the destruction will be permanent he stated.
So yes Trump is thrilled.
Well I don't know about Mike.
We can assume he is being bribed well, lots of money and favors behind the scenes.
Perhaps he is fine with a long term shut down.
He gets paid no matter what.
Bribe money pours in.
What does he care?
Like the Supreme Court Justices.
yellow dahlia
(4,350 posts)2naSalit
(99,806 posts)Of the preppers, they intend to raid other peoples' caches at gunpoint for food and shelter if that's all they have left. And you know the guns are what they value most because it can be used to force others to do your bidding.
Captain Zero
(8,723 posts)I'll take at least two of them to hell with me.
vapor2
(3,657 posts)spanone
(140,927 posts)Bayard
(28,416 posts)I think it will be bloodthirsty ICE agents mowing down a bunch of protestors. Think Kent State x 10. A whole bunch of the populace is going to wake up, and wonder how we got here.
usonian
(23,373 posts)And nobody has a worry.
He's setting it up. Some governors have figured it out.
Only frogs are holding back real trouble.
Love those frogs. The REAL peacemakers.