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prodigitalson

(3,186 posts)
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:25 PM Oct 30

Im going to be looking for a Democrat in the next presidential primaries who will enthusiastically use all the new power

Trump has discovered. Bold sweeping holy shit stuff everyday...but for good this time.

Anything less is unsatisfying and ammounts to unilateral disarmament.

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Im going to be looking for a Democrat in the next presidential primaries who will enthusiastically use all the new power (Original Post) prodigitalson Oct 30 OP
i particularly like this power to demolish rampartd Oct 30 #1
Demolition of all the confederate monuments would be delightful. nt SunSeeker Oct 30 #18
I tend to agree with you. However, the person must have truly solid credentials as a liberal. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 30 #2
That what i meant by for good. prodigitalson Oct 30 #39
The courts will suddenly find their footing in that case... SamuelTheThird Oct 30 #3
Fuck the courts mercuryblues Oct 30 #4
Yep JustAnotherGen Oct 30 #36
Yep. Legislative and Judicial Branches will be lit! leftstreet Oct 30 #5
Yeah the shadow docket will immediately cease to exist, Volaris Oct 30 #7
"The SC will be hearing emergency arguments at 2am on a Saturday"... BadgerMom Oct 30 #12
Yes! Thirteen! calimary Oct 30 #17
If it were me... mwooldri Oct 30 #35
YES!!! Mandatory Retirement!!! calimary Oct 30 #43
THIS!!! calimary Oct 31 #47
The exact opposite of what I want EdmondDantes_ Oct 30 #6
Well, since we're fantasizing here... WestMichRad Oct 30 #11
After Democrats take power . . . AverageOldGuy Oct 30 #16
I'm ready to bring back the guillotine for a few of them FakeNoose Oct 30 #23
No No No! 3825-87867 Oct 30 #27
I'm afraid I disagree. We can not normalize extra constitutional behavior for any purpose. flashman13 Oct 30 #8
It will need to be done, just to bring back a semblance of normality. Crunchy Frog Oct 30 #9
That will just legitimize the next fascist. paulkienitz Oct 30 #10
Totally agree. BannonsLiver Oct 30 #13
I've been saying that we should do this... Lucky Luciano Oct 30 #14
Wasn't it less than a week ago we had No Kings rallies sarisataka Oct 30 #15
No kings.....period. BeneteauBum Oct 30 #20
Good luck with that Alpeduez21 Oct 30 #19
How much of that discovered "new power" is legal and how much of it isn't? Have you actually sorted that out? ancianita Oct 30 #21
The first order of business is increasing the SCOTUS seats to 13. SunSeeker Oct 30 #22
If they were to do JUST that... it would go a long way to fixing this mess Blasphemer Oct 30 #41
Yes, a SCOTUS liberal majority would unshittify America. SunSeeker Oct 30 #44
Top of my list too....exactly what im talking about prodigitalson Nov 1 #48
We go full tilt prosecution of every person who committed so much as a misdemeanor during the Trump nightmare... Escape Oct 30 #24
The Democratic primaries will be a tough choice we have two qualified candidates, Harris and Newsom. nt ShazamIam Oct 30 #25
We have many qualified candidates pinkstarburst Oct 30 #28
I'll agree and add Pritzker to my ,list. Who is on your list of qualified? ShazamIam Oct 30 #30
I hope Kelly throws his hat in the ring as well. nt Blasphemer Oct 30 #42
SCOTUS-R6 will close ranks fast if a Democrat is elected bucolic_frolic Oct 30 #26
This is what I've been saying, too... slightlv Oct 30 #29
Might have to hold our noses to the corrupt smell of someone willing to shake things up as radically as trump prodigitalson Oct 30 #40
Just getting rid of trump is going to be a single step... slightlv Oct 31 #45
I'll be looking for a Dem with charisma who isn't past retirement age. Full stop. maxsolomon Oct 30 #31
As old as *everyone* in politics seems to be... slightlv Oct 31 #46
Donnie's "new power" is largely from a compliant media and a loyal, violent mob unblock Oct 30 #32
I want some serious reforms of checks and balances IronLionZion Oct 30 #33
I'd prefer one who would fix the institutional weaknesses that trump is exploiting bhikkhu Oct 30 #34
I will want a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission". mwooldri Oct 30 #37
I'll be looking for anyone who will hold these nazis ACCOUNTABLE Skittles Oct 30 #38

rampartd

(3,629 posts)
1. i particularly like this power to demolish
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:29 PM
Oct 30

and will support any candidate that will implode the ball room on his inauguration day

Volaris

(11,356 posts)
7. Yeah the shadow docket will immediately cease to exist,
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:59 PM
Oct 30

The SC will be hearing emergency arguments at 2am on a Saturday, because separation of powers of democrats, congress will no longer be allowed to pass things like, yaknow, LAWS, and the article 2 powers will OBVIOUSLY belong to the courts (that they agree with).

What has to be totally destroyed by the next elected Government, in its totality, is the idea that Democratic everything is just totally un-American and therfore, legally illegitimate.

THATS the game the right wing and their echo chambers have been playing for half a century.

BadgerMom

(3,377 posts)
12. "The SC will be hearing emergency arguments at 2am on a Saturday"...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:39 PM
Oct 30

All 13 of them? I mean, when I say sweeping changes, I want sweeping changes. 😉

calimary

(88,895 posts)
17. Yes! Thirteen!
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:53 PM
Oct 30

There are 13 judicial districts in the U.S.

I still think we should expand the Supreme Court to 13, one justice per district. It’s not just a “sweeping” change. It’s a LONG OVERDUE change.

mwooldri

(10,784 posts)
35. If it were me...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:12 PM
Oct 30

... I'd appoint even more jurists, backup jurists if you will. And each case be decided by a panel of 9 judges. Judges chosen by random. Mandatory retirement ages, mandatory maximum service length. Judges chosen by a bi-partisan panel and the president picks from this shortlist.

Yeah, Supreme Court reform is long overdue IMO too.

calimary

(88,895 posts)
43. YES!!! Mandatory Retirement!!!
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:26 PM
Oct 30

Absolutely positively NO MORE jobs-for-life!!!

NO MORE!!!

calimary

(88,895 posts)
47. THIS!!!
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 08:00 PM
Oct 31

HOLY CANNOLI YES!!!!!!!

The first thing a Democratic president should do is expand the Supreme Court. There are 13 jurisdictions in the U.S. There should be one justice for each one.

EdmondDantes_

(1,317 posts)
6. The exact opposite of what I want
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 03:49 PM
Oct 30

We need to reverse the power of an executive because it is far to easy to abuse. And it just leads to an increasing cycle of just trying to go bigger. And doing everything via executive order makes things whipsaw between administrations rather than having stickiness of law.

WestMichRad

(2,890 posts)
11. Well, since we're fantasizing here...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:29 PM
Oct 30

I agree with you… but let’s make it harder to change things AFTER we undo the damage this Maladministration is doing.

Because you KNOW the Repukes will do everything in their power to gum up the works and slow walk every reform the Dems attempt.

AverageOldGuy

(3,285 posts)
16. After Democrats take power . . .
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:48 PM
Oct 30

. . . we need a two-step approach:

1. Use all the power we have and then some; put the entire Trump administration in jail for life; execute a couple of them.

2. Then reform the system so it won't happen again.


FakeNoose

(40,021 posts)
23. I'm ready to bring back the guillotine for a few of them
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:14 PM
Oct 30

... then we'll outlaw capital punishment once and for all.

3825-87867

(1,788 posts)
27. No No No!
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:26 PM
Oct 30

Not unless we use a very dull, thin, heavy blade!
A couple of times! Or until no longer needed.
Too harsh for some of you kiddies?
Try you and your family going without food for a month or so for no good reason other than to make the rich richer from your food money.

flashman13

(1,972 posts)
8. I'm afraid I disagree. We can not normalize extra constitutional behavior for any purpose.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:18 PM
Oct 30

The most important thing is to elect a Democratic Congress which will install guardrails around the presidency in order to prevent any further criminal administrations. We need a Congress that sends the President bills to sign that work for We the People.

I want a President that campaigns on bulldozing the TrumpEpstein Ballocks Room and rebuilding the East Wing. If there is an arch that goes too.

Crunchy Frog

(28,211 posts)
9. It will need to be done, just to bring back a semblance of normality.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:23 PM
Oct 30

I won't go for timidity or someone who fails to recognize the gravity of the current situation.

paulkienitz

(1,495 posts)
10. That will just legitimize the next fascist.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:24 PM
Oct 30

I say we preserve democracy, which means elections are NOT winner-take-all final solutions.

BannonsLiver

(20,201 posts)
13. Totally agree.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:43 PM
Oct 30

We can’t keep fighting by the rules of past wars. Key part here is “for the good.”

That means standing up to them and the ghouls on the Red Court when they try to take people’s right to vote away, their right to marry and their right to not starve, or die from sickness unnecessarily, in the wealthiest country in the world. Stand up and forcefully rebuke their shit.

Lucky Luciano

(11,811 posts)
14. I've been saying that we should do this...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:44 PM
Oct 30

…but this theoretical president should also say, that all such actions (other than undoing the previous president’s actions), will not be implemented if the following constitutional amendments (blah blah legalese) are passed which ban such dictatorial power grabs.

sarisataka

(22,203 posts)
15. Wasn't it less than a week ago we had No Kings rallies
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 04:48 PM
Oct 30

Was the foot note "Unless it's our king"

BeneteauBum

(300 posts)
20. No kings.....period.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:02 PM
Oct 30

If we adopt the same bludgeoning attitude as the MAGAts, we will have adopted their agenda. Let’s strengthen the checks and balances so this horror show will never happen again. Then get back to tending our planet for our kids and subsequent generations.
Peace ☮️

ancianita

(42,764 posts)
21. How much of that discovered "new power" is legal and how much of it isn't? Have you actually sorted that out?
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:06 PM
Oct 30

Have you actually looked at the abuses of power shown in over 400 federal lawsuits?

Can you name any Democratic candidates who've even hinted at "the good this time" they'd do?

SunSeeker

(57,456 posts)
22. The first order of business is increasing the SCOTUS seats to 13.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:08 PM
Oct 30

One for each of the 13 federal circuit courts. We had only 9 circuit courts when SCOTUS was increased to 9 in 1869. It used to be only 6 SCOTUS seats when we had 6 circuit courts, up until 1807.

This can all be done by a simple passage of legislation by Congress. Then fill the seats with liberals.

Then they can overturn Citizen's United, Heller, and Dodd, and all the opinions eviscerating the Voting Rights Act. Just like how major precedents were overturned by the Roberts Court, including Roe v. Wade (constitutional right to abortion), Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce and parts of McConnell v. FEC (campaign finance limits), Chevron U.S.A. v. Natural Resources Defense Council (Chevron deference), and Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (affirmative action in higher education). 

Time for what goes around to come around!

Blasphemer

(3,566 posts)
41. If they were to do JUST that... it would go a long way to fixing this mess
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 07:07 PM
Oct 30

Also bringing back the Fairness Doctrine (or something similar to account for social media as well).

SunSeeker

(57,456 posts)
44. Yes, a SCOTUS liberal majority would unshittify America.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 08:44 PM
Oct 30

The last liberal majority on the Supreme Court ended on May 14, 1969, when Justice Abe Fortas resigned, which was followed shortly by the retirement of Chief Justice Earl Warren. The court then became predominantly conservative due to subsequent appointments by Republican presidents. And McConnell made it a conservative supermajority by essentially stealing two seats for Trump to fill (refusing a vote on Garland because it was 9 months before the 2016 election, then ramming through Amy Coney Barrett 2 weeks before the 2020 election, even though Trump was down in the polls).

Escape

(369 posts)
24. We go full tilt prosecution of every person who committed so much as a misdemeanor during the Trump nightmare...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:14 PM
Oct 30

... while gradually turning back into the Democracy we, on the left, want..

There CAN NOT be a "forget the past, let's think about the future" attitude when we get back in power. THEY ALL HAVE TO BE PUNISHED TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT OF THE LAW". We have surely finally learned this lesson by now!

ShazamIam

(3,016 posts)
25. The Democratic primaries will be a tough choice we have two qualified candidates, Harris and Newsom. nt
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:17 PM
Oct 30

pinkstarburst

(1,870 posts)
28. We have many qualified candidates
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:36 PM
Oct 30

And as much as I like Harris, the country already weighed in on her in the general. It would be a HUGE mistake to nominate her again, and would guarantee us a loss. I will not be supporting her again in the primary.

bucolic_frolic

(53,834 posts)
26. SCOTUS-R6 will close ranks fast if a Democrat is elected
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:25 PM
Oct 30

and Republicans will start their carping again and stonewalling and obfuscation.

slightlv

(7,413 posts)
29. This is what I've been saying, too...
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:37 PM
Oct 30

I actually have things I'm looking FOR in a democratic nominee. And being willing to use all the power that SCOTUS gave to trump, in essence, to the OFFICE of the Prez, for all the good it can do.

One other thing I'm looking at very seriously, which is going to be harder to find is one not sullied by the new corporate democratic pose.

prodigitalson

(3,186 posts)
40. Might have to hold our noses to the corrupt smell of someone willing to shake things up as radically as trump
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:57 PM
Oct 30

but by doing stuff like coast guard ships sent to keep oil tankers in port until they've paid every environmental penalty they owe or whatever they are getting away with.

slightlv

(7,413 posts)
45. Just getting rid of trump is going to be a single step...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 02:57 PM
Oct 31

I'm afraid the country is in for many long, arduous missteps before it finally finds its true footing. I say that because, from the very start of our founding, the ideals were great, but discrimination was built in. It'll be up to these new generations now to undo the mistakes of their ancestors and push the ideal that is America into existence. Unfortunately, I doubt seriously I'll be around to see it... or, even if I am still breathing my brain will probably be mush by then. But it still doesn't stop me from hoping with all my might that discrimination against Mother Earth, the animals we share this earth with, and women and POC can be overcome by a more enlightened generation.

maxsolomon

(38,108 posts)
31. I'll be looking for a Dem with charisma who isn't past retirement age. Full stop.
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:49 PM
Oct 30

I want to win, and that's what it will take in a nation chock full of nuts.

slightlv

(7,413 posts)
46. As old as *everyone* in politics seems to be...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 02:58 PM
Oct 31

I have to wonder if the problems we encountered in the 60's and 70's worked against people moving into politics, instead of pushing people towards it to solve the problems. And, if so, how can we turn that around.

unblock

(55,862 posts)
32. Donnie's "new power" is largely from a compliant media and a loyal, violent mob
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:50 PM
Oct 30

With parts of that mob installed in key places, notably the courts.

The nominal "new powers" such as presidential "immunity" don't mean much without the courts and the media on your side.

Any democratic president who so much as jaywalks will quickly find the president isn't really immune.

The real power lies in his being able to commit crimes in broad daylight and have the media yawn.

IronLionZion

(50,744 posts)
33. I want some serious reforms of checks and balances
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 05:51 PM
Oct 30

to limit the powers of one douchebag to screw so many people

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
34. I'd prefer one who would fix the institutional weaknesses that trump is exploiting
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:11 PM
Oct 30

...rather than exploiting them himself (or herself). Though if he used those powers to fix things in a way that shut that door, that would be ok too. I'm afraid I've gotten to be a pessimist on that subject though; I don't expect to see anything fixed, but rather a long slow looting of the country (and my optimistic side only hopes that it is slow).

mwooldri

(10,784 posts)
37. I will want a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission".
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:16 PM
Oct 30

To lay out what went wrong and what we need to do to put things to rights.

Skittles

(169,291 posts)
38. I'll be looking for anyone who will hold these nazis ACCOUNTABLE
Thu Oct 30, 2025, 06:18 PM
Oct 30

none of this LET'S LOOK FORWARD bullshit

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