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Norbert

(7,528 posts)
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 03:27 AM Oct 31

Saw on an SUV last night

My wife and I was at a function Thursday evening. There was a man that I would say is an older Vietnam veteran that went in before us using one of those rolling walkers that doubles as a seat. As we were leaving he was right in front of us. We told him to have a good evening.

I couldn't help but notice on the back window of his SUV, there was a large circular sticker saying "Proud United States Marine Veteran" surrounding the Marine Logo. To the left was a smaller circular sticker that said, "When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty."

I was very proud to know that trump, Voight and Miller is probably not fooling some of these veterans.

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mucholderthandirt

(1,745 posts)
1. They aren't fooling me, and never did. Now that my ex has TBI and can't vote...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 04:10 AM
Oct 31

my vote can go towards cancelling out another MAGA idiot. LOL

I think I was just born a liberal. I've strived all my life to not hate anyone and especially not an entire group of people, but I have to say I've failed. I hate all MAGA, no matter who they are, where they are. Just hate them, and wish them all bad things. I've tried to work on this, but I can't change. Hate them now, will hate them forever. But pretty sure that even if there's a hell I won't go there, Satan loves me. Ha ha.

Irish_Dem

(79,450 posts)
2. Hating evil is much better than being indifferent to it or loving it.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 04:25 AM
Oct 31

If people don't hate evil there is something wrong with them.

Jesus hated evil too. He had a royal temper tantrum and threw
the damn money changers out of the temple on their asses.
He didn't turn the other check, he kicked ass.

I am proud to be that kind of Christian.
Fighting for what is right. Using good to fight evil.

ananda

(34,315 posts)
3. Yes. Render to Carsar the things that are Caesar's...
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 04:41 AM
Oct 31

and to God the things that are God's.

AZJonnie

(2,713 posts)
7. I absolutely think we there are born liberals and born conservatives. I think evolution 'created' a balance
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 05:14 AM
Oct 31

in the population between 'cooperators' (us) and 'competitors' (them). That's why there's liberals and conservatives in every culture, probably in roughly similar %'s. It's beneficial for the species survival to have that balance of temperaments. If the population is too conservative you kill each other, and if too liberal, you get killed by others, that kind of thing.

I bet if you studied chimps (and knew how to study for it) you'd find the same going on. Bonobo's too. Although Chimps are way more like conservatives, and Bonobos way more like liberals overall.

Hope22

(4,433 posts)
11. There is research about humans. They study the brains of humans.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 06:09 AM
Oct 31

There is a difference between the brains of conservatives and liberal. Something about the need to follow blindly. I’m sorry I don’t remember the name of the research. That being said when Conservatives die from hunger or war their thinkers begin to understand more about things. If it doesn’t affect them or their chances to get into heaven they simply can’t embrace it. If I can find a link I will post it here….

Roy Rolling

(7,402 posts)
4. Trust Me
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 04:47 AM
Oct 31

Veterans are talking amongst themselves. Especially veterans of Vietnam. Of course we respect anyone who wants to risk their lives for their country, whatever the conflict or readiness.

But 58,000 U.S. souls of all races, religions, and creeds were lost to eternity in Vietnam—dwarfing any operation (no declaration of war) since. Vietnam was a hell on earth for the brave soldiers dragged into a phony war for commercial purposes.

They didn’t experience that for nothing. And since then, they know and live the benefits of being a U.S. military veteran for 50 years.

You can’t recruit someone to follow a coward and his gang after they’ve been hardened by combat and death around them for years on end. 58,000 dead, countless maimed and disabled.

Veterans will fight for liberty, but not to keep a leader seated on a gold toilet, flushing his crypto and other people’s money down the crapper.

BeerBarrelPolka

(2,173 posts)
8. You should hang at the American Legion and VFW
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 05:22 AM
Oct 31

by me. They literally worship Trump and the republican party. They will never change. And the overwhelming majority of members are Vietnam vets.

Roy Rolling

(7,402 posts)
9. You're right
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 05:41 AM
Oct 31

Maybe I’m in a silo, but the old veterans who surround me said they’re organized and prepared for attempts to co-op them into a political battle.

I hope it’s just a loud minority who don’t want to appear weak in the eyes of others…who need to belong to a cult to project a macho image.

I have a brother-in-law Vietnam veteran who leans like you say, but we have an open conversation about the military and Trump.

Mtnmama

(128 posts)
12. Yes, this "macho" thing that appeals
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 06:31 AM
Oct 31

to so many trump supporters, especially male. It's much more like a "bully" thing to me, though. Trump's supporters embrace toxic masculinity, and bullying to the hilt.

Mtnmama

(128 posts)
14. As a side note, I
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 06:34 AM
Oct 31

Just watched Charlie Chaplin's The Great Dictator. So many similarities to what's going on with trump. A wonderful film, if you watch, make sure to see to the end. Very, very moving.

Skittles

(169,291 posts)
6. it boggles my mind that any military person could support Cadet Bonespurs
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 05:03 AM
Oct 31

the man is a criminal and a coward

democrank

(12,079 posts)
13. I can't tell you how many times I've thought the same thing.
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 06:33 AM
Oct 31

Trump with his 3-foot necktie, his American flag he likes to grab and kiss, his constant lies whenever he addresses the troops, his hideous statements about our POWs….his FIVE deferments. I could go on all day.

Skittles

(169,291 posts)
16. I just don't get it
Fri Oct 31, 2025, 04:11 PM
Oct 31

not that I understand ANYONE supporting that fascist POS but - but active duty military folk and veterans? It's just a fucking DISGRACE. WTF.

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