Erica Kirk and JD Vance...

[Swede]

[Irish_Dem]

1. Mrs. Vance must be humiliated.

[thomski64]

2. .just wow

..knew he was a he whore

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. She is over-sexed.

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Her hands on his head pulled him in, but sure looks willingly.

At another mourning/honouring event she has worn a sheer blouse.

Edited to add that I was fooled by an AI image and I've withdrawn one specific point about a kiss.

[Irish_Dem]

5. Vance loved it. He didn't look shocked but loved every minute of it.

[Swede]

6. And once again, it is the hypocrisy of these phonies that leads us to mock them.

Christian my ass.

[Irish_Dem]

7. I think there is even a commandment about this very issue.

[lastlib]

95. Laws are for Democrats......

(Didn't you know that? )

[enid602]

67. Roll

I heard his lashes rolled up and his tongue rolled out.

[CrispyQ]

89. If you pause the video when she's got her hands in his hair & his face is in her hair, he's smiling. It's very obvious.

There are ways to deflect overly intimate come-on's & he didn't do anything. He walked right into it & enjoyed it.

[Irish_Dem]

90. He wasn't in the least bit surprised or taken off guard, was he?

I wonder if it was planned in advance.

[CrispyQ]

94. I definitely think Kirk planned it. And he definitely enjoyed it. Was his wife in the audience?

There's a pic going around of their wedding, a Hindu wedding & he's got a red dot on his forehead & I wonder if he wasn't anything like this back when they married & she's horrified at the man he's become? "Her children." I will never forget when he called their kids that. WTF? She doesn't deserve to be treated like this.

[Maru Kitteh]

96. We might find out if she deserves him or not. I'd love to assume she's an actual human

with feelings and a conscience, but actions vs. words (or total lack of words).

[Attilatheblond]

102. Usha Vance knows how to pick 'em. Clerked for Kavanaugh pre his SCOTUS stint & also John Roberts

Newsweek July 16 and July 18, 2024
https://www.newsweek.com/usha-vance-supreme-court-jd-vance-donald-trump-republican-party-1925645]

It did not take long for attention to turn to Usha Vance, who was most recently a corporate litigator at a firm which represents clients in the entertainment, technology, energy and health care industries, according to her LinkedIn profile.

She resigned from that position shortly after JD Vance was announced as Trump's running mate, according to multiple reports.

However, some of her previous roles quickly started gaining some scrutiny, notably her clerkships for Brett Kavanaugh before he was a appointed to the Supreme Court and the current Chief Justice John Roberts. Both men make up part of the highest court's 6-3 conservative majority.

Not excusing JD's behavior and recalling how HAPPY Trump looked when Erica leaned into him, full body contact, at that memorial for Charlie. Both men have questionable response to the very friendly widow, but Usha seems to lack some judgement about who she picks to be around.

[CrispyQ]

108. Thanks. I didn't know this about her.

She's either a lot like them, or she's about to learn a hard lesson, or both.

[Irish_Dem]

98. Exactly, it looked all planned in advance to me too.

1. The photographer got too good of a shot for it to be random.
2. Vance doesn't look in the least surprised or taken aback.
3. The two have a comfort level and seem to be used to intimacy with each other.

Was this planned to force Vance's wife to file for divorce?
To humiliate her?

[CrispyQ]

107. He's certainly cowardly enough to do that.

Someone on social media suggested Kirk may want the VP spot but I don't think so. I think she's pegged Vance as the spineless worm he is, & she can run the presidency or at least have more say as First Lady than as VP. Just my opinion based on the little I've read about her.

[Irish_Dem]

110. I agree totally. She appears to be manipulative and quite ambitious.

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When I saw how she comported herself disgracefully at her husband's funeral service
I knew she was the brains behind the Kirk scam.

And then more confirmation by all of her posts requesting money, etc.

She has identified Vance as her next target, and yes she will be the one running the US
and world once Vance is in office. And scamming the US taxpayer and US Treasury.

I think this latest stunt is designed to get Vance's wife to file for divorce.
Vance is going to regret this day for the rest of his life.

I wonder if Vance understands the extent to which he is being played.

ETA I give her credit, she rapidly parlayed her sudden rise to power very well.
She lacks subtlety of course, but for the MAGAs, the more ham fisted the better.

[CrispyQ]

123. A Kirk/Vance marriage would solidify Trump's base behind Vance.

Right now, I'm not sure he can count on enough maga to win a primary. The sad thing is, the nastier he is to Usha, the more they will like him.

[Irish_Dem]

125. Yes she grasped this fact soon after Kirk was killed, the Kirk brand was valuable.

She realized Kirk was worth more to her dead than alive.
In terms of power and money.

Yes right now the public is being manipulated to hate Vance's current wife.
And to welcome his divorce and remarriage to the second wife.
The new MAGA Dragon Lady.

[Smilo]

141. Nah, he's always been a scumbag

she knows it, she has stayed with him all the way. And you just look at her work history - she's a scumbag too.

[PufPuf23]

113. Planned in advance and practiced in private? nt

[Irish_Dem]

115. Bingo. This is very obviously not their first intimate contact.

I think it was staged to make Vance's wife file for divorce.

[snowybirdie]

8. Do folks still

Use the phrase, "over sexed"? Kind of sexist. I'd say ," hot for eachother".

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. It's not sexist. Brits said US GIs (men) were over-sexed in WW2. Different from "hot for each other"

When she wears a sheer sexy black blouse to memorial events, she is not "hot for" someone specific. She is over-sexed, needy, unsatiated.

Sure, it's an old expression and I have no idea about its currency. The WW2 phrase went "The GIs are over-sexed and over here." That usage also was not "hot for" someone specific.

I used it because I think it is applicable.

[snowybirdie]

34. So what shall

We call HIM? Horney Dude? Adulterer?

[BeerBarrelPolka]

40. Satyr

That's the male equivalent of nympho

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. The first applies and the second is looking increasingly likely.

Hypocrite? Philanderer? Player? Blue balls? "Couch fucker" could apply too, though the source of that meme is apocryphal and not strictly true as I remember the analysis.

The couch is suing for divorce over alienation.

[58Sunliner]

120. Probably call him gay. I think kirk was a closet case. Vance has a new beard.

[swong19104]

52. GIs in WW2

was 80 years ago. Modern vernacular probably doesn't describe either a man or a woman as "over-sexed". However, I think a common term today is "player," and "cougar" specifically for (older) women.

As for Erica wearing pleather pants, sheer blouses and the like, well, people have their own taste for what is proper for themselves. I'm not to judge.

On the other hand, since TPUSA and the right so frequently judge others (especially those of us on the left, as well as people from other nations/cultures), I think it's fair to judge her based on their own set of criteria of what is acceptable for women to wear.

[regnaD kciN]

91. The pleather pants...

…were obviously to entice Vance by reminding him of his favorite sofa.

[COL Mustard]

60. The full phrase about American GIs in Great Britain was

Overpaid, oversexed, and over here.

[LastDemocratInSC]

97. The Yanks are over paid, over sexed and over here.

[ShazzieB]

24. I haven't heard that phrase in years.

I don't love it, especially applied to a woman. The overtones of slut shaming are distasteful.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

27. Slut shaming?

Now that's an example of misandry.

[ShazzieB]

53. More like misogyny.

Slut shaming is something that is usually aimed at women and girls:

What is slut-shaming?

Slut-shaming is accusing someone — usually girls and women — of being “too sexual,” and using that as an excuse to humiliate, bully, or harass them. The reason slut-shamers target people is to make themselves feel more powerful by putting other people down.

Examples of slut-shaming include:
○ calling someone a “slut,”
○ demeaning someone for wearing revealing clothes (regardless of what they’re actually wearing),
○ spreading rumors about someone’s sex life,
○ trash-talking someone for having sex (regardless of what’s true),
○ victim-blaming someone for a sexual assault, and
○ yelling at someone for going to a sexual health care center.

Slut-shaming can happen online or IRL; directly or behind someone’s back; from people you know or don’t know. Slut-shaming comes from the myth that sex is wrong, dirty, or immoral, especially if you’re female. That’s why slut-shaming also is a cruel form of sexism. The main message is: It’s not okay to enjoy sex or be sexual if you’re female or feminine.

Source: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/what-is-slut-shaming

Sure sounds like misogyny to me, and I'm not comfortable seeing any woman slut shamed, including the widow of a RWNJ asshole?

[BeerBarrelPolka]

63. I'm VERY comfortable using the word

if it fits. I was married to a christian woman who had no problem sleeping with several different men at the same time. It's misandry to try to defend her.

[ShazzieB]

126. Hmmm.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, objecting to slut shaming on general principle has nothing to do with defending something a particular person has done. If a person has cheated on someone they are in a relationship with, they may well deserve to be criticized for their actions of lying, cheating, and not honoring their commitments.

Exqmple: an aunt of mine was married to a man who cheated on her openly and blatantly for many years. (Yes, she should have left him a lot sooner than she eventually did, and I don't really understand why she didn't. But that's a whole different conversation). Did he do that because he was "oversexed" (whatever that even means)? I don't think so. I think he did it because he was a lying, cheating scumbag who had no respect for the vows he made at the altar. He did it because he felt like it and because he could.

Slut shaming is a different thing from holding someone responsible for specific behavior like cheating on a partner. It involves holding women to a different and stricter standard than men are held to and policing women's behavior in a much more judgmental way, and it includes things like blaming women for any undesired attentions they receive from me. If the distinction is still not clear to you, I recommend reading the article I linked to in my last post. It lays the whole thing out pretty clearly, I think. I guarantee you every woman reading this knows exactly what I'm talking about and most of us have personally experienced slut shaming.

I could go further and explain why objecting to the misogynistic act of slut shaming has nothing whatever to do with misandry, but I am simply too tired to go on any longer. Peace out.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

135. I don't need to read anything

Some women are indeed sluts and it's not misogyny to call them that. If you can't understand that, then you are defending, hence that is misandry.

Men are called ALL sorts of names when they cheat so save me the lecture. And men are insulted even on here on a daily basis. It's very common to read about their small "size" to explain their behavior. That is misandry plain and simple. But we are supposed to accept that.

So I call a spade a spade. Yes, there are sluts out there. I have no idea whatsoever if Kirk's widow is one. But they are most definitely out there. And the term slut shaming is just one way to defend and empower them and that behavior.

[ShazzieB]

142. Wow.

You've obviously got your mind made up, and I'm officially noping out of pursuing this issue any further here and now. Sorry I spent so much time trying to clarify what slut shaming is, because it was obviously a waste of effort and energy. But maybe someone else will read this conversation and learn something. Who knows?

By the way, I don't care for those "size" jokes, either, and I don't participate in them, because I think they're silly. But from what I've seen, men post comments like that at least as often as women do here at DU, so your beef is not with me. (I don't use any other social media these days, so all my comments here are about DU culture, not the internet at large.)

I'm also not a fan of comments that equate qualities like courage with the ownership of testicles. I'm pretty sure there are people of just about every gender here at DU, and I feel those comments are disrespectful to cis women, trans people, intersex people...basically anyone without "standard issue" male genitalia, WHETHER THEY ARE MEANT THAT WAY OR NOT. In the 21st century, i don't think we should be equating character traits with genitalia of any kind. Not because it has anything to do with either misandry or misogyny, but because genitalia have nothing to do with the kind of person someone is.

I imagine a lot of us have a list of pet peeves regarding certain types of comments that bug us. But it's not possible to control other people's behavior and trying to do so is exhausting, so I mostly just roll my eyes at those things, keep scrolling, and take comfort in the fact that I know most people of every gender here at DU really do have a respectful attutude towards everyone else. It's one of my favorite things about this place.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. Andrew Tate, Sean Puff Daddy Combs, Harvey Weinstein over-sexed, as was Jeffrey Epstein. . . . nt

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[Norrrm]

59. And Donald Trump

[BeerBarrelPolka]

25. It's definitely not sexist

Men and women are referred to as over-sexed.

[IronLionZion]

39. Where is that photo?

Nothing came up when I googled

[Bernardo de La Paz]

48. At the White House with tRump

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https://mississippitoday.org/2025/10/15/vice-president-jd-vance-and-erika-kirk-to-speak-at-ole-miss-for-turning-point-event/

Erika Kirk listens as a military aide reads the citation before President Donald Trump posthumously awards the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk in the Rose Garden of the White House, Tuesday, Oct. 14, 2025, in Washington. Credit: AP Photo/Alex Brandon

[IronLionZion]

50. No photo of them kissing

sounds like you made it up

[Melon]

64. I believe it's an AI. I saw it a week ago. It was added into the same video. It was being dismissed in comments.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

69. Thank you for confirming image existed. I have come to the same conclusion. I apologize for being fooled. . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

66. I apologize. I definitely saw a pic but on reviewing a video, I conclude that the pic I saw was AI crap.

I looked at CBS and PBS videos of the event and the embrace did not include a kiss on the lips. I also was unable to find a still picture despite multiple search terms.

[IronLionZion]

80. I accept your apology

[Bernardo de La Paz]

101. Awaiting your apology for accusing me of making it up. . . . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

71. I apologized. Perhaps you should apologize to me for your personal attack. I was not only person to see the image. . nt

[electric_blue68]

117. I have No Regard for him, and probably little regard for her; but "over-sexed"? Would you call a man "over-sexed"?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

118. I did. In this thread. The Brits did too (but not in this thread though I and others mentioned them). . . . nt

[electric_blue68]

119. Ah, ok, then.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

124. No worries. Looks like I blew through 60,000 posts today. . . nt

[electric_blue68]

136. Ok👍 And Congrats! 🎉

[erronis]

19. Well, he ho'd up good for Thiel and then for trump. Breaking up with the couch and his poor wife.

[Grim Chieftain]

51. OMG "he whore"

Thanks so much for that. I really needed a good laugh - and spot on!

[NoRethugFriends]

74. Seriously? If she's not embarrassed just being married to him

Then I don't think anything could bother her

[Irish_Dem]

88. Add it to the list of public humiliations.

If she has any pride and self respect, it must be humiliating.

[barbtries]

82. his very existence i would think

humiliated her years ago. when he decided to let his racism fly and go full fascist and anti-immigrant.

[Irish_Dem]

129. If she has a moral compass that is.

[barbtries]

130. true.

big if.

[IbogaProject]

127. I don't care

She is a right winger too, just like Modi in India itself.

[hlthe2b]

4. Anyone who tries to claim that is innocent and platonic doesn't know body language...

Stroking his hair in a "platonic hug?" Umm, okay
Clasping her so tightly with both hands, including one pressing her waist to your... umm, whatever?

Betcha working on one's own career, rather than giving it up for a chubby-faced "el-Macho-wannabe," might seem a reasonable alternative--especially given the fight you would have to retain any control over your children, eh, Usha? Hey, put me on the jury, and I'd give you full custody, but the political forces are going to be devastating to fight against.

[LuvLoogie]

11. JD dumping Usha and hooking up with Kirk would solidify his MAGA support 100%.

She should just leave now with her children for their own safety.

[Blue Full Moon]

12. He wants her to become a Christian and

then still take off with the b*@^h.

[Hekate]

57. His brand of Christianity does not permit divorce -- one reason I think she's wise to not convert

When JD converted to Roman Catholicism, it was to a very conservative type, and I think under the influence of Opus Dei.

I hope Usha packs up the kids and gets far away from this snake.

[Blue Full Moon]

75. Annulment is though

But when have they ever followed their own rules? It applies to others and not them.

[rurallib]

76. I had a Catholic friend that was married 10 years with two kids

He wanted out to marry his girlfriend. So for a price the church gave him an annulment.

So many things are for sale for the right price.

[GopherGal]

132. I would think he could get a discount on an annulment

given her Hinduism. That should make it easier to declare the marriage null and void.

The decision by any woman to remain in a marriage after public disrespect is something the woman (be she Usha, Hillary, Ivana, Marla, or Melania) doesn't really owe the public an explanation for, I suppose.

[hlthe2b]

13. Do you honestly believe she'd be allowed to leave with her children? Where? India? Modi would back HER?

I don't think so.

Vance could not afford to have his children stripped from him if he is to keep up the pretense of a "good Catholic/good father"...

[BeerBarrelPolka]

28. He's too fresh

to be considered a good Catholic, and the evangelicals LOATHE the Catholics so he isn't making any MAGA friends there.

[hlthe2b]

38. He's been Catholic about as long as I've been 20 pounds underweight (never)...

It is all a calculated move.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

43. Yep.

It's all show biz

[GoCubsGo]

70. Erika Kirk was Catholic longer than he was.

She was raised Catholic, after all, and "converted" when she got into college, or thereafter. She is an opportunist, just like JD, who I always assumed was linked to Peter Theil, with his marriage to Usha being a cover.

[TheBlackAdder]

44. I'm Not Your Stepping Stone... Or Is He?

She got the mils from the first, now it's time to Level-Up!

[BannonsLiver]

10. They're totally boning.

JD knows he can’t compete in a GOP primary with Usha. This is all part of the process of evolving for 2028. They’ll announce a trial separation in the new year and he’ll be fully involved with Erikkka by the one year anniversary of Chuck’s dirt nap.

The joke will be on him when Dump cancels the 2028 GOP primaries and anoints Don Jr as the nominee. There’s no scenario where the Trump family voluntarily hands over the keys (power) to an outsider.

[rubbersole]

15. The couch weeps.

[BannonsLiver]

17. And seeps, in JDs case.

[niyad]

32. I nearly spit out my coffee!

[BannonsLiver]

46. That's great. We all have to leave room to laugh in this mess we're in!

[niyad]

47. True!

[miyazaki]

116. They'll be the new Turning Point power couple.

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The country will reach new heights of mass psychosis.

[Irish_Dem]

131. She will kick Vance to the curb as soon as possible. And grab all the power she can.

I wonder if Vance realizes what he is walking into?

[Pisces]

14. This is the new power couple. He will leave his wife tearfully because they are on different spiritual paths.

They will say they connected on loss and religion and have a whirlwind romance/wedding just in time for the Presidential election. That is if Trump moves aside.

Must be terrifying for Usha to see the change in her husband due to power and ambition.

[rubbersole]

18. Usha probably hates his guts.

[Pisces]

21. The way he's been treating her in public, I can't imaging she has warm and fuzzies for him.

[Roxi]

134. She's not the only one

He is easy to hate.

[-misanthroptimist]

20. Anyone think that Vance may have put out a hit on Kirk?

Stranger things have happened.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

23. Not anyone with sense and a grasp of the facts in the case. . . . nt

[-misanthroptimist]

29. And how did you determine the facts in the case?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

33. From credible news sources referencing public facts and court documents. . . . nt

[-misanthroptimist]

56. Oh, I had no idea there were any credible news sources left

Good for you!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

68. Well then, you have learned something. Glad to help. . . nt

[-misanthroptimist]

73. Not really much help, was it?

All I've really learned is that there are news sources that you still trust. That's really of very little use to me, right?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

77. Perhaps you have learned to temper your cynicism. Or not. Don't buy into tRump-Project2025 playbook

Yes, there are many non-credible sources. No, not all sources are non-credible. There are credible sources.

Throughout this sub thread you have not provided even a hint of evidence for your baseless conjecture. I doubt you ever will because not only is there no credible evidence for your conspiracy theory but this is the first I've heard/read/seen anyone promote it.

The fascist playbook, as explained by Hannah Arendt, is to spread lots and lots of lies, ... not to get you to believe them, but to get you to believe nothing. Don't play their game.

[-misanthroptimist]

85. Well...perhaps I can help you even more.

The "?" denotes a request for information, not a statement of fact or even a belief. Go forth with this new found knowledge and act accordingly.

You're welcome.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

87. The question mark is why I said "conjecture". Your cynicism is why I explained that there are facts. . . . nt

[-misanthroptimist]

93. Pity to be unable to accept that you made a mistake.

conjecture /kən-jĕk′chər/
noun

Opinion or judgment based on inconclusive or incomplete evidence; guesswork. An opinion or conclusion based on guesswork.
"The commentators made various conjectures about the outcome of the next election."
An opinion, or judgment, formed on defective or presumptive evidence; probable inference; surmise; guess; suspicion.

I made no conjecture. I asked a question.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

100. Your mistake. Premise of your "question" is a cynical conjecture with NO evidence. Still no evidence.

"Just asking questions" is a very underhanded ploy to inject bogus ideas and then avoid taking responsibility for them.

You threw some nonsense into the thread in the form of a "question" and all you have left is nitpicking about the meaning of "conjecture". You have not provided any basis for your cynical "question", which you followed up with cynical surmises about credible media. It's your mistake.

[-misanthroptimist]

104. Words have meanings

You, not I, used the word "conjecture", and you used it wrongly.

Further you are ascribing motives to me with zero evidence. The intelligent way to find out my motives is to ask me. You've jumped to wrong conclusions based on Zorb knows what.

Calm down and reevaluate your position.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

105. You injected cynical nonsense into this thread with not a shred of evidence. I stand by my posts. . . . nt

[-misanthroptimist]

106. Ah, you're one of those.

Best of luck to you!

[fujiyamasan]

137. Stranger things have indeed happened

And in all honesty, there’s no honor among any of these criminals. Vance is clearly ready to throw his brown wife and mixed race kids under the bus for the MAGA crowd.

But unless there’s a shred of proof, it’s a ridiculous (albeit very amusing), conspiracy theory!

[littlemissmartypants]

22. I read somewhere...

That Charlie didn't even live with her and had his own apartment "close by."

Former beauty queens don't stay single for long. Especially when they still have their looks to fall back on.

[ashredux]

26. When you're digging for gold, you keep on digging

[moniss]

30. He's thinking to himself

"If only she were covered in Naugahyde."

[sop]

65. Her leather pants remind him of naugahyde.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

78. DUzy! . . . nt

[Vinca]

35. Bet the old couch got a workout after that.

[Hope22]

36. In keeping with R family values...

Shouldn’t he be phoning his kid to keep his purity.

[IronLionZion]

37. Church hug is supposed to leave room for the Lord in between.

Erika's got a hot pocket for JD. A blonde Christian widow needs to be comforted.

Usha can't even make him sleep on the couch because he'll ....

[Jilly_in_VA]

81. Isn't it supposed to be

a "side hug"? Oh wait, that's for Duggars.

[niyad]

42. Thank goodness there will be alcohol at our event later. Sorely needed,

after that. Glad I had not yet eaten!

[pfitz59]

45. Consoling the grieving widow

easiest pickup in the game of love

[WarGamer]

49. She might even become the next Mrs. Musk

[lame54]

54. Are you suggesting...

Vance had motive?

[Timeflyer]

55. She's still wearing her mourning stretchy pants.

[nycbos]

58. I feel awful for the kids stuck in this situation

They’re completely innocent, and probably are gonna need therapy for the rest of their lives

[Rastapopoulos]

62. Mary Todd Lincoln wore black the rest of her life

Besides that, Mrs. Kirk, how did you enjoy the rally?

[Norrrm]

72. And the search continues for a proper white wife as befits his republican high status?

[rurallib]

79. I think it was Stephanie Miller who said the other dy

that Erika Kirk is wearing tight black leather pants so she can look more like a couch

Totally broke me up.

[Joinfortmill]

83. They deseve each other.

[ArnoldLayne]

84. Disgusting, I kind of feel bad for his Wife.

[diane in sf]

86. A Poem From Marcus Bales

Marcus Bales
2h
“Mrs. Kirk
When Mrs. Kirk entwined with JD Vance
And ran her jeweled fingers through his hair
While showing off those skin-tight leather pants
That grieving widows are so well-known to wear,
Her womanhood presaging its debouch
If JD wants to take her for a couch.
And Usha in the wings can only watch
Him put his hands upon her tiny waist
And pull her yet more tightly to his crotch,
A spectacle that's everything but chaste.
And sleeping on the sofa, you'll recall,
For JD's not a punishment at all.
You do not have to watch the video twice
To see how Mrs. Kirk embraces vice.”

[Efilroft Sul]

92. Erika says the comparisons between Charlie and JD are running neck and neck.

[Tetrachloride]

99. No monogamy no cry

[CincyDem]

103. She's been dressing more like a couch over the past 4-5 weeks. Hmmm...lol. n/t

[RedWhiteBlueIsRacist]

109. Vance's boss is also an unfaithful spouse. Probably why the GOP has lowered the 'family values' banter

with these two philandering cheats.

[C_U_L8R]

111. If she pressed her boobs into him any harder

Either he or they might burst.

[mr715]

112. They'd merge and form Donald Trump. nt

[2na fisherman]

114. "Normalize Indian Hate"

Usha should have divorced him when he so spinelessly defended the DOGE employee who said this. So he really doesn't give a shit if his wife and kids were the target of racism. How can she remain married to him when he has no moral compass? His own kids must hate him too.

[MerryBlooms]

121. This whole thing has been weird to me from the beginning

When my husband died, I could barely get my shit together enough to leave the house. Yet, she's performing on stages, and shit? Her kids are littles, mine were high school... Mine died of aggressive quick cancer at home. Her, horrible violence. How is she able to go out is leather or plether pants, on stages, leave her kids and just be out there!?! I don't relate to any of this bs. I get we grieve differently, but this is bizarre to me.

[MerryBlooms]

122. My husband died in 2002, I still dream of us.

We were so young. I don't get this at all.

[Farmer-Rick]

138. Yeah, there was no love between the widow Kirk and Charlie

You could tell how they acted towards each other. It was strange that she was older than Charlie. She was 30 and he was 25 when they met. A little grooming going on there?

Despite all the crap that came out of Charlie's mouth, Erika was the boss in that family. They may have pretended Trad wife and master husband. But behind the scenes, Erica got what she wanted.

But out with the old and in with the new. Charlie's dead, and she seems almost gleeful. Of course a Trad wife has to have her next meal ticket lined up. But damn, she slipped into those leather pants quickly. When my spouse died, it took years before I could even think about someone else.

But she better be careful. She's playing with fire. Nazis liked their Trad wives to wear leather too. The only person who ended up dead at Charlottesville Nazi rally was a white woman. Nazis don't protect their own women. They hate them all.

[Ocelot II]

128. Poor Usha might end up a political liability for her very ambitious and opportunistic husband,

where a very white, very blond, very Christian woman like the Widow Kirk might be more favorably received by the MAGA base than a brown Hindu wife and her brown-ish children might be.

[Sogo]

133. The photo where they're kissing is actually a lot hotter.

It has the feeling of a really intimate moment....

[NH Ethylene]

139. I'm wondering if they had an existing affair.

This looks like familiarity.

I'm also wondering if the super ambitious, yet unpopular Vance will divorce his wife and marry Kirk to boost his popularity for a presidential run.

[twodogsbarking]

140. Hugging is ok but the rubbing up and down is questionable.