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turbinetree

(27,545 posts)
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:27 AM Nov 2025

'He's certainly not helping': Trump reportedly just threw wrench into shutdown negotiation

By Travis Gettys
Published November 7, 2025 8:22 AM ET

Support for a potential deal to reopen the government has fallen apart after Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) was unable to gain trust from Senate Democrats on a floor vote to extend Affordable Care Act subsidies.

Senate Democrats rejected an emerging proposal Thursday for a continuing resolution after they concluded over lunch that they couldn't trust President Donald Trump and House Republicans to extend the health insurance subsides or stop firing federal workers, and they don't trust Thune's commitment on bringing the subsidies onto the floor for a vote, reported The Hill and Politico.

“This is the old days of making sure you write it into black letter law," said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), the top Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, which has jurisdiction over the ACA tax credits. "That’s what we do when we write bills. We haven’t seen that yet."

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'He's certainly not helping': Trump reportedly just threw wrench into shutdown negotiation (Original Post) turbinetree Nov 2025 OP
As trustworthy as a trump promise... Wounded Bear Nov 2025 #1
I tried to copy the picture of him standing there it says everything about this psychopath turbinetree Nov 2025 #2
The mantle of sanity and governance is being passed to Democrats bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #3
Well, Trump attempting to get an emergency stay from a federal appeals court no_hypocrisy Nov 2025 #4
I am so fricken proud of our Democrats in the Senate and House, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #5
Fool me once, shame on you Deminpenn Nov 2025 #6
Unless Dems are trying to go for the optics of trying to negotiate, I see no value in an actual deal. Jbraybarten Nov 2025 #7

bucolic_frolic

(55,129 posts)
3. The mantle of sanity and governance is being passed to Democrats
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:39 AM
Nov 2025

though few realize it at this time. Republicans have lost control of the narrative they write on the fly every week. The issue of TRUST is foremost. If you don't have trust, and logic, and science, and compassion for your fellow humans - you haven't got much of a government.

no_hypocrisy

(54,899 posts)
4. Well, Trump attempting to get an emergency stay from a federal appeals court
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 11:59 AM
Nov 2025

to prevent 100% funding of SNAP allocations is not indicative of any fruitful negotiations to re-open the Government.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
5. I am so fricken proud of our Democrats in the Senate and House,
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 12:04 PM
Nov 2025

They've finally figured out that negotiating with the repigs is like trying to catch a greased pig, they're slippery as hell and will always run away.

Stick to your principles Dems and you will be rewarded in 2026 with taking back the House and Senate.

Deminpenn

(17,504 posts)
6. Fool me once, shame on you
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:22 PM
Nov 2025

Fool me twice, shame on me

Rs have repeatedly shown they cannot be trusted and thus have no credibility.

Jbraybarten

(265 posts)
7. Unless Dems are trying to go for the optics of trying to negotiate, I see no value in an actual deal.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 03:28 PM
Nov 2025
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