Governor Newsom blasts the Senate deal: Pathetic. This isn't a deal. It's a surrender. Don't bend the knee! (Updated)

[Celerity]

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Update

Here are the 8 Dem caucus members who voted to cave:

Catherine Cortez Masto
Jacky Rosen
Maggie Hassen
Jeanne Shaheen (retiring)
Angus King
John Fetterman
Tim Kaine
Dick Durbin (retiring)

[Arazi]

1. Traitor loves it. A sure sign it's a load of shit

If you need confirmation Senate Democrats are fucking this whole thing up here you go. Excellent way to destroy the enthusiasm with huge Dem wins throughout the country up and down the ballot that were not even one week ago.

— Adam Parkhomenko (@adamparkhomenko.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T23:41:13.400Z

[demmiblue]

2. ...

So Democrats get:

1. A CR that will prevent the GOP from facing the wrath of Americans for a shutdown over the holidays

2. A coupon for one (1) meaningless ACA vote that will fail

3. An end to the illegal RIF/SNAP moves that are already before the courts

Those all seem like wins for the GOP.

— Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T00:08:43.716Z

Not sure what happened to the original but here's a different reporter's summary

bsky.app/profile/burg...

— Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T00:14:11.282Z

[democratsruletheday]

3. BULLSHIT Gavin....easy to criticize from your ivory tower....

It's the only way forward at this TIME. Those evil fuckers weren't budging and didn't care who got hurt and/or starved in the meantime. Such drama and BS from him. Disappointing...Pritzker looks better by the minute.

[Celerity]

5. De rec.

[newdeal2]

7. I don't see an ivory tower

He did the work with Prop 50 in a short amount of time and with lots of opposition.

He also is one of the biggest vocal opponents against Trump.

I'm not saying he is my candidate for '28, but one of the biggest criteria I have is that the next candidate be a fighter and challenge conventional wisdom. There's no other way out of this mess.

[B.See]

65. Precisely. Brings guns to a fkng GUNFIGHT

Not plastic FORKS.

[tonekat]

109. Even if they are recyclable forks. N/T

[EdmondDantes_]

38. Name calling and criticism aren't the same thing

Also really, using the right wing insult is a weird thing to do.

[choie]

30. Newsome is exactly right.

Schumer and his colleagues look like fucking colleagues - because they are.

[Bobstandard]

36. I think he meant cowards. nt

[Skittles]

39. *NEWSOM

his name is spelled N E W S O M

[FHRRK]

45. But...

He is still one of those crazies from CA.

JFC critiquing one of the fighters is a sure way to play into the narrative that Dems are weak and cave.

[Trueblue1968]

42. I agree with you and the OP. The dems need to stop caving. Just my opinion.

[Bobstandard]

35. He's right. You're pro caving.

To each his own. But I’m with Gavin.

[valleyrogue]

81. Gavin is a governor and doesn't know squat about Congress.

He is all about trying to run for president, something he doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.

[Bobstandard]

82. Troll.

[C Moon]

101. So not true. Newsom has been a terrific governor. He put together prop 50 to save our frigging country...

NOT to run for President.
Don't really understand the hate for Newsom. Like I said, he's been a terrific governor, and he'd make a terrific President.
I mean, some people on this platform were putting Newsom down FOR HIS HAIR! I mean, WTF?

[Cirsium]

102. Pretty funny

Attacking the Democratic governor of California, home to 9 million Democratic voters, in part to defend the surrender to the Republicans by a Senator from New Hampshire, home to 308,000 Democratic voters.

[azureblue]

37. So you blame

Democrats for shutting down the government? WTF. Let the Republicans fix the mes they themselves made, first. Democrats are not obligated to clean up after a GOP fiasco.

[tinrobot]

44. The GOP is holding the American people hostage...

...so they can take away healthcare from millions.

You don't negotiate with hostage takers.

[tinrobot]

46. Pritzker is also against it

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220788646

[TheBadWolf]

50. Sounds like you're happy with surrender too.

We already have an excess of Vichy dems.

[yaesu]

54. .Pritzker posted pretty much the same thing LOL. nt

[R0ckyRac00n]

55. J.B? that you?

n/t

[Envirogal]

60. We knew the rethigs were ruthless.

So what is the point of the dumbs caving after 41 days? They should’ve just be the knee and let this BS go forward then said putting us through all this. Gavin was the only one really fighting with any real strategy. I’m so sick of the feckless moderates that have gotten us into this position by having no fight or balls. Republican lite is why Dems poll low and are so easy to slam.

They have killed our enthusiasm so once again, ripping from the jaws of victory to defeat once again.

[FHRRK]

63. Pathetic is not a strong enough word n/t

[Jbraybarten]

79. Gavin is absolutely right. I'm not in a fucking tower. This was bullshit.

[Gore1FL]

83. Let me criticize from the ground floor, then.

Gavin is correct.

[BannonsLiver]

4. I agree with Gavin.

[BWdem4life]

12. Great, now I've recced a reply from both FiendishThingy and BannonsLiver

within the course of a week. WTH is happening... lol

[BannonsLiver]

14. lol

A much needed laugh.

[OneGrassRoot]

27. 😂😂😂 n/t

[questionseverything]

107. Ikr, it scares me when everything is upside down

[demmiblue]

8. Talarico:

This isn’t very hard, folks.

— Adam Parkhomenko (@adamparkhomenko.bsky.social) 2025-11-10T00:09:18.202Z

[Celerity]

9. thank you for posting this

[Seinan Sensei]

84. Talarico is one to watch

He’s grounded
He’s focused
And he will go toe-to-toe with Christian Nationalist Magotry

[LonePirate]

10. I agree with Gov. Newsom

[usonian]

11. Ahem.

[TBF]

13. I agree with Newsom - have had it with the corporate dems

nt

[OMGWTF]

16. Time for the Old Guard Dems to Sit the Fk Down. You SUCK!!!

[LW1977]

20. Amen!!

Amen!

[TurboDem]

51. Amen X a million

[Celerity]

25. per MSNBC: Schumer will not vote for the shutdown deal

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220788397

[choie]

32. Um that's because he's sure he has 10 other cowardly Democrats in the senate

who will vote against this fucking bullshit.

[Celerity]

33. You mean 10 who will vote FOR the bullshit deal, correct? (you said vote against it)

And yes, you are probably right, as IF he runs again in 2028, AOC and others would use a Yes vote to roast him.

[fujiyamasan]

70. He has nothing to run on

I’m usually not in support of primarying sitting democrats for ideological reasons (big tent and all), but in this case I make an exception.

This whole fiasco was the height of incompetence. It showed him to be weak and feckless. He’s not just unworthy of a leadership position, he needs to simply resign form the senate tomorrow. The same goes with Durbin.This isn’t even senate material. They’re destroying their own legacies

[TheProle]

29. DU jury system should not be a retaliatory tool

Also you should tread lightly with this repeated ‘cuck’ shit. It stinks of incel Reddit slop and is a RW talking point.

[Paladin]

21. Newsom speaks for me. As usual.

Jesus, the political milage that trump will get out of this latest Democratic cratering.

[Paladin]

73. Suits me.

Count on Newsom to put Schumer to work, doing something constructive.

[hamsterjill]

22. It's not all that hard to see that Newsom is right.

It's truly pitiful that we have the leadership in the Democratic party that we do.

I'm old, but these old idiots need to get the fuck out of the way and let some new, younger ones with some FIRE IN THEM be in charge for a while.

I am tired of losing to bullies.

[ColoringFool]

28. Old Guard Dems Are Spinning! LBJ, Tip, ....

Mayor Daley.

Not saying they were always right, but they were always tough SOBs!

[hamsterjill]

34. Yes, they were.

But we sure don't have the likes of those any more, do we?

[Whyisthisstillclose]

23. My enthusiasm and hope are waning again. Crap!

[orangecrush]

26. Surrendering at the dawn of victory, fuckng nice

[popsdenver]

104. Amen to that OC

In so many many ways, this is, in fact, THE LAST NAIL IN THE COFFIN, forever more.....This "IS" the turning point......at least it "WAS"......

Tens of millions, thrown off ACA in the future, and the cost of private health insurance skyrocketing off the charts.

Once again, the decades old Republican adage: If you get sick, die.............

and....Once again, "they" are walking down the Jungle Path swatting at mosquitoes, and oblivious to the Herd of Charging Elephants. Pun Intended.
just as they have been for over 45+ years..............

We Are So Fucked, let me count the ways.........

[Bayard]

40. Newsom is right

Dems caving now will make all of us pay. I put my rant in another thread.

We have TACO for trump. What do you think they will call DEMS?

[Ol Janx Spirit]

89. Maybe....

The Blue Carpet

The Foldocrats

The Blue

[Onama Biden Man]

43. Chuck and these 10 senate "Democrats" just handed all leverage to Trump on a silver platter with a bent knee

Gavin is 100% right. This is an utter betrayal and unacceptable. When voters don’t show up for democrats in the midterms next year, it can be traced back to this. Democrats literally had republicans on the ropes and they pull this bullshit????? The shutdown was for nothing. I’m so disgusted right now

[bagimin]

47. Gavin Newsom is right!

(esoteric reference to "Blazing Saddles" quote.

[lame54]

105. Reverend

[flashman13]

48. Right on Governor Newsom.

[TBF]

49. AOC also agrees with Newsom - text from her account on Bluesky

‪Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‬
‪@aoc.bsky.social‬
· 14m
The average SNAP benefit per month is $177 a person.

The average ACA benefit per month is up to $550 a person.

People want us to hold the line for a reason. This is not a matter of appealing to a base. It’s about people’s lives.

And working people want leaders whose word means something to them.

[Maru Kitteh]

93. I feel like AOC speaks for the greatest number of Dems, progressives and citizens who

do not want to live under facsism.

No leader is perfect, but I hold the most confidence in her right now, as a leader.

[TBF]

95. I love her - but I'm also willing to work with Newsom & Pritzker -

both of them came out for the people yesterday afternoon & they were against caving. Both governors have been the recipients of Trump's bullying and know exactly what they are dealing with. They are willing to fight him.

We just need to get rid of the corporate sell-outs.

[Maru Kitteh]

98. amen.

[pat_k]

52. Until we know what "wins" they got into that "minibus" it's hard to judge how much of a "surrender" this is.

Yes, Thune may get to "win" on his "no negotiation on subsidies until the shutdown is ended" but there may be some very meaningful concessions in the minibus the Republicans had to yield on to get a few Democrats on board.

Do I think they should hold out and kept hammering on how unreasonable the Republicans are being and keep pushing Shumer's one year extension as an incredibly reasonable compromise.

Absolutely YES. I think there was (and may still be) a good chance of prevailing. Republicans certainly wouldn't relish families getting together and getting REALLY pissed at them as they talk over the holidays.

The "imminent deal" could still fall apart.

Herding Democrats isn't easy. It's actually kind of amazing that Shumer has held them together this long. The last cloture vote on 11/4 was 54-44 so a couple people were out. The vote 9/30 was 55/45, so it would only take 5 defections.

One thing that strikes me as sort of interesting is that Thune's "deal" reportedly calls for at least 8 Democrats to agree to vote for cloture on the CR, so either he is expecting defections of his own, or he really, really, wants Democrats to look complicit in the bad things in the minibus (the vote wasn't even that close in the end, we only needed 60 to end debate and got 63).

It's also not clear to me if the defecting Dems are agreeing to Vote Yea only on cloture, or are they agreeing to vote Yea on the bills too?

[questionseverything]

108. The repubs don't need their votes on the actual bill, just on cloture

[yaesu]

53. Newsom speaks for me I just wish Dem Senators did too. nt

[spudspud]

56. Senate Dems are a bunch of idiots.

WTH was the point of shutting down the government for a record amount of time, to get what essentially is a coupon for a junior sized Frosty at Wendy's? They just NUKED all the good will with our base and NPA voters, look like absolute cowards, and AGAIN prove right those who say Dems are led by monied interests and are fundamentally cowards. People will be furious about the increase in their ACA premiums, people will DIE and go bankrupt because of the increases, and all the crap the American people just went through with the shutdown now reverts to anger against the Dems.

[durablend]

77. LOL the Frosty coupon was expired

[spudspud]

86. It's even worse than I thought then!

LOL.

[James48]

57. Vote is 56-40.

And time long ago expired.

Who are the four who have not voted?

All four have to vote yes for it to pass.

Who is it?

[Celerity]

64. Cornyn is the only one left, he is making his way to the Senate floor and will vote Yea

[CaptainTruth]

58. I'm not going to say what I'm thinking...

[Thrill]

59. This Party is weak. And has always been. Never going to change until there is a complete cleansing

Of these weaklings

[Paul-EM]

61. only one party

At this juncture, I think that there is only one political party in Washington, D.C., the Insider Trading Party.

[AntiFascist]

62. Republicans now have a chance to make the Democrats look bad before the midterms...

These 8 Democrats believe they have a "chance" to pass the ACA extensions, but if it doesn't pass then the GOP can make them look dumb and gullible.

[FHRRK]

71. And the Repukes will point to this vote

And say it was bipartisan and only the crazy liberals were trying to destroy ‘merica due to Trump Derangement syndrome.

[SunImp]

113. We need to be on top of messaging & make sure this is all Republicans fault

Show the people how they're willing to take away food & money from everyday people

[flying-skeleton]

66. NO BALLS AGAIN ‼️‼️

Every Democrat Senator who's capitulated needs to be primaries ‼️‼️‼️‼️

[ProBlue24]

67. Way to go!

Unbelievable! So let me get this straight over 7 million people marched in October, and a week ago we won in a landslide. Republicans don’t want to govern, these splineless jacka$$es don’t know how play hardball!

I’m disgusted!!!

[Blasphemer]

69. Newsom is the big winner here. Only a governor will win a Dem primary. nt

[0rganism]

72. Yet again, Democrats snatch our precious darling defeat from the merciless jaws of victory just in time!

Is there some kind of cosmic equilibrium that can only be maintained by the Democrats continuing to take "L"s? If so, good job Chuck.

[Hotler]

74. +1 kicking

[Celerity]

90. Thank you.

[PurgedVoter]

75. Seriously these people work with Republicans, they know what they are.

All it takes for me is five minutes of listening to Republicans in Congress. Doesn't matter the subject, they make it clear exactly who they are pretty quickly. Imagine that you had to listen to them all the time. How would you not know exactly how horrid they are?

[Bettie]

76. I'm there now

ready to vote for Newsom if we have another election.

He seems to be one of a very few who still feel the need to fight.

[flying-skeleton]

78. Traitors had better......

These traitorous senators better have gotten rich from surrendering because they just ended their political careers and will have to live their lives in shame ‼️

We should all donate to every one who primaries these traitors ‼️

[valleyrogue]

80. Gee, I don't see Schumer's name on there.

He gets trashed around here like Harry Reid did, like Tom Daschle did, like Dick Gephardt did. Anything but to focus on the REAL culprits.

Besides, where is the House? Are THEY going to return to work and vote on a final bill?

Cart before horse, people.

[Ping Tung]

85. A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be.

A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine

[spanone]

87. K&R

[Celerity]

91. Thank you.

[spanone]

92. 👍🏼

[dalton99a]

94. Unilateral disarmament and preemptive surrender is how you motivate the base.

[JCMach1]

96. Thank you Gov. for fighting the good fight

At this moment I am 100% for a ticket of people who will actually fight this regime

Newsom
PRITZGER
OCASIO-Cortez.

I honestly dont care who is 1 or 2. Just give me two people sworn to fight fascism and fight for the people and social and economic justice.

[republianmushroom]

97. Yup, some have not learned lesson about surrendering easily.

They didn't bend a knee, they got down on their elbows and knee, and asked please.

[crimycarny]

99. Where was the Dem messaging on this? Why didn't they point out the 40 B to Argentina would have paid for the subsidies?

I don't get it, I truly don't. Why weren't the Democratic leaders on every channel, in front of every microphone, making the point that the cost of extending the ACA tax subsidies for another year was less than the $40 billion to bail out Argentina?

It seems this would have been a no-brainer. And they could have included the almost 300 million for the stupid ballroom, shown pictures of Trump's marble and gold toilet...why didn't they do this?

Instead, they argued about how devastating losing healthcare coverage would be (duh), then caved!!!!!!!!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

103. You apparently don't understand the meaning.

Look up "genuflect" and what the point of that is.

There's nothing "odd". The term means something similar in a different context and in the case of BLM, it was done in lieu of the idol worship of the flag that people were supposed to "pledge to" (versus pledging loyalty to the country and its Constitution). Note that the gesture was usually done during the "Pledge of Allegiance" and it wasn't just a "bend" of the knee to the ground, but an actual "kneel" with one knee on ground for a prolonged period.

[Hassler]

110. The only victory in this surrender: they waited until after

Last week's elections to spring this surrender. These Dems and their allies like Angus King are like a manila folder--dull and only do one thing over and over.

[sellitman]

111. And we wonder why more Democrats don't come out and vote.

Here is a prime example why.

[mr715]

112. I wish the phrase "bend the knee" would disappear

I'm tired of hackneyed game of thrones references.