DNC Chair Ken Martin opposes the shutdown deal

[Celerity]

[pat_k]

1. In the coming battle...

...there is an opportunity for the eight defectors to redeem themselves.

Until the cuts and harmful changes in the Murder Budget are implemented in an appropriations bill, they have no real effect.

The MAGA Murder Budget remains one of the most despised pieces of legislation in my memory -- and perhaps ever.

Democrats have a chance to fight like hell -- and to stick it out this time -- again in January.

Job One Right Now is pushing the Democrats in the House and Senate -- not just our own electeds, but the leadership too -- to define a set of demands to mitigate the most hated and harmful of the cuts and destructive changes to the rules in the MAGA Murder Budget "blueprint" that are scheduled for 2026. Along with declarations to fight as hard in 2027 against the cuts in Medicaid and SNAP.

Trumpublicans must be forced to defend the indefensible. And if they refuse to change course and step back on the worst things in that bill scheduled for 2026, we must bring all the pressure we can muster to convince the Senate Democratic caucus to shut down the government again.

Then it will be up to us to keep the pressure on to make sure the February shutdown ends in ONLY
one of two ways:

- Trumpublicans meet our demands.

- Trumpublicans invoke the nuclear option.

If they won't change course and deviate from the "blueprint," let them take 100% responsibility for it by passing it with only their own votes.

In this coming fight, it is time for DEMOCRATS to FINALLY demonstrate the strength it takes to draw firm lines in the sand (STFU about negotiating): The demands are met, or the Republicans can get rid of the filibuster.

We need them to declare their refusal to be accomplices in these evils (the list of terrible MAGA Murder Budget rules changes and cuts -- and the evils we KNOW the felon will commit if not stopped by Congress).

The message in this second shutdown: We are not obstructing. They can move forward right now. We just refuse to be accomplices in these evils. Period. End of story.

[gab13by13]

4. Hard to undo a law after it is passed.

There was a CR back in March when Democrats were prepared to take a stand before Schumer kneecapped them.

Back in March Democrats could have bargained to protect Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, etc. before voting for the CR. Voting for the CR gave Krasnov everything he wanted, especially getting his Big Ugly Death Bill made into law.

Cuts to Medicare are coming soon, cuts to Medicaid are coming, cuts to the VA have been made, cuts to Social Security have been made. Krasnov is now talking about raising the retirement age for Social security.

[pat_k]

8. We can force them to own these despised cuts. The blueprint is not a budget until implemented in an appropriations bill.

At the very least Democrats can challenge the "weak Dem" brand and force Trumpublicans to own every piece of their horror show.

And in these times, I say never say never. The felon's entire agenda is even more unpopular than than the felon himself. And he is forcing Republicans to run on that agenda. We may be surprised to find that we have a stronger hand than we thought, and that more Republicans than expected will ultimately balk when asked to step up and defend the indefensible.

Some relevant thoughts in today's discussion between Simon Rosenberg and Stuart Stevens.

[mr715]

2. Oh boy

Who cares? What difference does this make? Deal done. Got stink all over it.

[RockRaven]

3. Oh. What good does that do now?

[Celerity]

6. this Xeet was from yesterday, I posted it for the historical record

[yaesu]

5. Before this I was seeing comments about the DNC being onboard with the turncoats. Also other misinformation

Imma thinking russian bots have infiltrated so be very careful what is posted, always do your own checks. By the way, I believe the DNC Chair is smart enough to figure out that it was a very shitty deal as do the majority of Dems with a brain.

[FHRRK]

7. So is he going to withhold funding?

Talk is cheap.