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Hotler

(13,747 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:27 AM Nov 2025

From The Telegraph. Wealthy foreigners 'paid 80k for weekend safaris to kill civilians' in Sarajevo

Wealthy foreigners paid tens of thousands of pounds to become “weekend snipers” and shoot civilians during the siege of Sarajevo, according to allegations being investigated by Italian authorities.

An investigation has been launched into claims that gun enthusiasts and far-Right extremists travelled to the war-torn city in the 1990s with sniper rifles to pick off terrified Bosnians “for fun”.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wealthy-foreigners-paid-80k-for-weekend-safaris-to-kill-civilians-in-sarajevo/ar-AA1QeDJ3?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=691475784cfc47759b9af52e8cfdcf4d&ei=112

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From The Telegraph. Wealthy foreigners 'paid 80k for weekend safaris to kill civilians' in Sarajevo (Original Post) Hotler Nov 2025 OP
now-a-days if people want to do this they just join ICE Takket Nov 2025 #1
People suck. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #2
Uber Wealthy People suck Dem_in_Nebr. Nov 2025 #14
They've sucked what seems forever. Omnipresent Nov 2025 #16
Not a story - the truth - the Zong massacre malaise Nov 2025 #29
That was depicted in a brutal scene Wednesdays Nov 2025 #32
PBS also covered it malaise Nov 2025 #42
That's probably it then. Omnipresent Nov 2025 #48
Agree malaise Nov 2025 #49
That's why... 2naSalit Nov 2025 #23
I decided a long time ago that cats are better people than people. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #24
Same here... 2naSalit Nov 2025 #25
Wealthy people suck in so many ways. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2025 #52
Some humans are capable of horrifying acts. yardwork Nov 2025 #3
That's sickening, these are seriously twisted people. Dave Bowman Nov 2025 #4
Foreigners all? WmChris Nov 2025 #5
Like... 2naSalit Nov 2025 #27
Yeah Jilly_in_VA Nov 2025 #34
"Foreigner" here means "non-Serbian" muriel_volestrangler Nov 2025 #35
Someone made money. Like a money launderer. Captain Zero Nov 2025 #50
Thought this only happened in the movies. a kennedy Nov 2025 #6
I was going to say, "Hush! Don't give Kristi Noem any ideas!" GopherGal Nov 2025 #7
How do you know they are not already doing it. Wanna blast a boat in the ocean to smithereens KPN Nov 2025 #43
Canned Hunt no_hypocrisy Nov 2025 #8
How many Trumps paid to do this? Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #9
The only surprise .. justsomeguy01 Nov 2025 #26
How do you know... 2naSalit Nov 2025 #30
It wouldn't surprise me. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2025 #10
Wait until they have canned hunts to kill Liberals in American cities DBoon Nov 2025 #11
Coming soon! KPN Nov 2025 #44
Is this really true? MIButterfly Nov 2025 #12
The allegations are a bit dubious and the Serbians vehemently deny it Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #18
Sounds like something Musk would do nuxvomica Nov 2025 #13
The Trump sons (eric and jr) like hunting big game... bsiebs Nov 2025 #39
Well, he did kill thousands of people in Africa with his criminal Justice matters. Nov 2025 #40
Waiting for ICE to offer "opportunities" to wealthy assholes to shoot immigrants for sport. Ocelot II Nov 2025 #15
Well, ICE is already paying a bonus if you just want to beat them up William Seger Nov 2025 #22
ICE is hiring bounty hunters DBoon Nov 2025 #47
There are no depths... 70sEraVet Nov 2025 #17
I wonder if its JustAnotherGen Nov 2025 #19
Like the Quentin Terrantino movie "hostel". ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #20
The director of HOSTEL is Eli Roth, not Quentin Taratino. cer7711 Nov 2025 #21
Ahem..., next, was this done in Gaza too?? txwhitedove Nov 2025 #28
I have no words for these psychopaths. 58Sunliner Nov 2025 #31
The Most Dangerous Game Deminpenn Nov 2025 #33
Exactly what came to mind. Lars39 Nov 2025 #36
"" AllaN01Bear Nov 2025 #37
Russians, Italians, and Americans? maxsolomon Nov 2025 #38
Oh dear God. redwitch Nov 2025 #41
It isn't rare in our species misanthrope Nov 2025 #45
Fun or Sport? MagickMuffin Nov 2025 #46
Bets on Traildogbob Nov 2025 #51

Takket

(23,714 posts)
1. now-a-days if people want to do this they just join ICE
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:30 AM
Nov 2025

but seriously, this is a horrific story, worthy of front page news. hunting for sport? I hope anyone involved is locked up forever.

Omnipresent

(7,450 posts)
16. They've sucked what seems forever.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:14 PM
Nov 2025

I heard a story about a slave ship in the 18th century, where most of the slaves died of all sorts of illnesses on board. So the owner in mid shipment, decided he wanted to declare a 100% loss on his cargo of people he was transporting. He ended up throwing the few living with all the dead, out into the middle of the sea. One crewman reported that women and children were flailing in the waves before drowning.

So people have sucked for a very long time!



malaise

(296,078 posts)
29. Not a story - the truth - the Zong massacre
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:46 PM
Nov 2025

The Zong massacre was a mass killing of more than 130 enslaved African people by the crew of the British slave ship Zong over several days from 29 November 1781.[a] The William Gregson slave-trading syndicate, based in Liverpool, owned the ship as part of the Atlantic slave trade. As was common business practice, they had taken out insurance on the lives of the enslaved Africans as cargo. According to the crew, when the ship ran low on drinking water after a series of navigational errors, the crew threw enslaved Africans overboard.

After the slaver ship reached port at Black River, Jamaica, Zong's owners made a claim to their insurers for the loss of the enslaved Africans. When the insurers refused to pay, the resulting court cases (Gregson v Gilbert (1783) 3 Doug. KB 232) held that in some circumstances, the murder of enslaved Africans was legal and that insurers could be required to pay for those who had died. The jury found for the slavers but at a subsequent appeal hearing the judges, led by Lord Chief Justice, the Earl of Mansfield, ruled against the slave-trading syndicate owners, on the grounds that new evidence suggested that the captain and crew were at fault.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zong_massacre

By the way, Hurricane Melissa just destroyed the town of Blackriver which was so wealthy back then that the town was the first place in Jamaica to have electricity.
Have to wonder if the insurance money made that possible.


Omnipresent

(7,450 posts)
48. That's probably it then.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:03 PM
Nov 2025

Who knows how many other slave ship owners resorted to this, while transporting slaves?
We may never know.

2naSalit

(102,778 posts)
25. Same here...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:45 PM
Nov 2025

Though I've catless for several years. Until I moved I had ready access to several cats to enjoy but now I have none, yet. There are two longhaired torties at the other end of the building who leave tracks on my car, I feel accepted. But I'm moving on to a new place in a few weeks so I will have to figure something out.

WmChris

(740 posts)
5. Foreigners all?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:38 AM
Nov 2025

I don't doubt there were wealthy gun nuts from the U.S. who participated as well.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,361 posts)
34. Yeah
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:11 PM
Nov 2025

They were called Blackwater or whatever Eric Prince renamed them (they've gone through several iterations since), Now they're just ICE

muriel_volestrangler

(106,199 posts)
35. "Foreigner" here means "non-Serbian"
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:12 PM
Nov 2025

ie not someone who might have said "I am joining Bosnian Serbs in trying to murder Sarajevans, because I'm on the Serb side".

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
50. Someone made money. Like a money launderer.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:08 PM
Nov 2025
Trump and Epstein both had money laundering operations in the 1990s.

GopherGal

(2,905 posts)
7. I was going to say, "Hush! Don't give Kristi Noem any ideas!"
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 11:55 AM
Nov 2025

But it's just as likely she was one of their customers (perhaps as a guest of a political donor.)

Still, who is Hell for, if not these people?

I guess War Crimes tribunals are the closest to justice we'll get on Earth.

KPN

(17,376 posts)
43. How do you know they are not already doing it. Wanna blast a boat in the ocean to smithereens
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:23 PM
Nov 2025

Only $1,000,000 — must be paid in advance.

justsomeguy01

(48 posts)
26. The only surprise ..
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:46 PM
Nov 2025

.. is that Don Jr wasn't involved. Too busy grifting & taking drugs. A few years ago he for sure would have been there.

2naSalit

(102,778 posts)
30. How do you know...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:48 PM
Nov 2025

He wasn't? Just asking because I would almost be willing to bet that went there.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
10. It wouldn't surprise me.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 12:02 PM
Nov 2025

I know a Chicago cop who has talked about retired coworkers/friends working in some African country (I forget which one) shooting poachers. And they ain’t exactly environmentalists.

Prairie Gates

(8,151 posts)
18. The allegations are a bit dubious and the Serbians vehemently deny it
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:16 PM
Nov 2025

Italian prosecutors will essentially investigate anything if it gets their names in the Corriere della Sera.

So, I'm leaning towards "It's probably bullshit."

nuxvomica

(14,091 posts)
13. Sounds like something Musk would do
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:08 PM
Nov 2025

Except no one was actually shot by him because his aim is so wicked bad.

Justice matters.

(9,786 posts)
40. Well, he did kill thousands of people in Africa with his criminal
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:20 PM
Nov 2025

DOGE illegal cuts of Congress's approved USAID funds.

Starved to death is even worst than shot dead instantly.

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
15. Waiting for ICE to offer "opportunities" to wealthy assholes to shoot immigrants for sport.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:12 PM
Nov 2025

Don Jr. would be right up front - I doubt wild animals are doing it for him any more. How much more entertaining it would be to shoot a roofer right off the roof he's working on, or take out a nanny walking a kid to kindergarten!

William Seger

(12,442 posts)
22. Well, ICE is already paying a bonus if you just want to beat them up
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:32 PM
Nov 2025

... but if someone does get shot, that's no biggie.

maxsolomon

(38,711 posts)
38. Russians, Italians, and Americans?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:15 PM
Nov 2025
The foreigners, from Italy, the US, Russia and elsewhere, are accused of paying Serbian forces to take part in the shooting spree during the Bosnian War.


A lot of this sounds speculative, so don't expect names anytime soon. Other than:

There is one well-known, documented case of a foreigner shooting at civilians from the hills surrounding Sarajevo. Eduard Limonov, a Russian nationalist, was filmed in 1992 firing a machine gun down on the besieged city. He was accompanied by Karadzic, who was later found guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity during the Bosnian war. Limonov died in Moscow in 2020 at the age of 77.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
45. It isn't rare in our species
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:35 PM
Nov 2025

Read up on the things that occur during genocides and wartime.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
46. Fun or Sport?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:48 PM
Nov 2025


When you’ve accumulated as much wealth as these a*holes, we must they are easily bored and don’t know what to do with all that moolah!

Us poorer people only have football and hockey to channel our mean streaks.

Question is: Who received payment, What is going to be done about it?

Actually no one will do jacksh!t about it just like child sex trafficking.




Traildogbob

(13,017 posts)
51. Bets on
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 03:14 PM
Nov 2025

How many were also Epstein clients?????
And many own America right now. And media, courts, Congress and senate, and are untouchable.
How Jesus taught us to accept. (:sarcasm

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