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Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump spent Thanksgiving together in 2017. While Trump was in office. (Original Post) Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2025 OP
I know what he was thankful for that year newdeal2 Nov 2025 #1
Drip, drip, drip.... sop Nov 2025 #2
Doctors giving him IV thorazine as we speak. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #7
That made me laugh loudly BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #9
Actually it would probably kill him administered this way. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #13
Too bad they don't do that anymore, BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #14
Right, one of the old school docs accidentally forgets the new safer meds. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #16
Paging Ronny Jackson. You're wanted in the White House bathroom BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #17
I was thinking of that sorry ass effer as a matter of fact. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #20
I think Michael Jackson's doctor is out of prison now. He is amenable to off-label medicines. Norrrm Nov 2025 #34
He's not. maxsolomon Nov 2025 #24
More malaise Nov 2025 #3
Thanks for this! n/t Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2025 #4
YW malaise Nov 2025 #5
Yes, thanks. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #8
We are old - needed more malaise Nov 2025 #10
Just insane Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #6
He barely knew him, so how could he remember? leftstreet Nov 2025 #11
;-{) Goonch Nov 2025 #12
Records say Trump celebrated Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago - Glenn Dubin's house is 5-6 miles away Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #15
Splattered that everywhere on Twitter underpants Nov 2025 #18
If this is true, Republicans should insist that Trump resign Buckeyeblue Nov 2025 #19
Epstein says he is going to Glenn and Eva Dubin's home for Thanksgiving Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #22
Wouldn't it have been easier if the Dubin's went to Mar-a-Lago? Buckeyeblue Nov 2025 #37
Certainly...a poster downthread makes a good point: Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #38
That makes sense Buckeyeblue Nov 2025 #41
This should be the #1 story. Trump said he hadn't talked to Epstein in 20 years Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #21
"down there" RockCreek Nov 2025 #23
"where are you having thanksgiving?" "eva" "that means glenn check out his red hair" Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #25
Yes, unfortunately RockCreek Nov 2025 #29
Agreed Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #33
Yes but why mention Trump at all in this context? Bluesaph Nov 2025 #36
I agree with RockCreek that this is a just a manner of speaking Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #39
So Trump lied about when he cut off contact with Epstein? Pachamama Nov 2025 #26
2017 during Trump's family separation policy where the children flvegan Nov 2025 #27
One turkey to another...n/t the nelm Nov 2025 #28
With Epstein? And not with his loving family? In prayer giving thanks...? Grins Nov 2025 #30
And who is Faith Kates, another modeling agency! MagickMuffin Nov 2025 #31
trump is scum Figarosmom Nov 2025 #32
Maybe Thanksgiving will be our Christmas Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #40

sop

(18,614 posts)
2. Drip, drip, drip....
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:41 AM
Nov 2025

Every ten minutes a new incriminating email is leaked. Trump must be losing what little is left of his mind. I imagine ketchup bottles are flying all over the Gilded Office.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
13. Actually it would probably kill him administered this way.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:06 PM
Nov 2025

They used to give Thorazine IM (injection) back in the day for unruly patients.
But it is too dangerous and they don't do that any longer.

IV thorazine would knock him out for good.
So sad.

Irish_Dem

(81,259 posts)
16. Right, one of the old school docs accidentally forgets the new safer meds.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:21 PM
Nov 2025

Has a brain glitch and goes back to the old days.

I will say it worked like a charm.

A patient taken to in patient psych (hospital) tearing up the place, causing mayhem,
and posing a threat. Then after the Thorazine shot, calm as a baby
Everyone safe.

Norrrm

(5,048 posts)
34. I think Michael Jackson's doctor is out of prison now. He is amenable to off-label medicines.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:37 PM
Nov 2025

maxsolomon

(38,715 posts)
24. He's not.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:33 PM
Nov 2025

As a Narcissist and Sociopath, he's impervious to feelings of guilt.

The most he's doing is blaming various enemies for these leaks, which are very unfair and vicious hoaxes.

hamsterjill

(17,577 posts)
8. Yes, thanks.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:02 PM
Nov 2025

I couldn't follow from the exchange in the OP. (I'm old!!) So this helped a lot.

Prairie Gates

(8,152 posts)
15. Records say Trump celebrated Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago - Glenn Dubin's house is 5-6 miles away
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:18 PM
Nov 2025

Did he go to Glenn Dubin's house instead? Surely there are Secret Service records on whether a Trump motorcade traveled the five or so short miles between Mar-a-Lago and Glenn Dubin's house, no? (You don't even have to go back to the mainland...)



Seems like a question for Karoline Leavitt...

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
19. If this is true, Republicans should insist that Trump resign
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 12:55 PM
Nov 2025

But just because Epstein wrote it in an email doesn't make it true. It could've also been an inside joke or something.

Prairie Gates

(8,152 posts)
22. Epstein says he is going to Glenn and Eva Dubin's home for Thanksgiving
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:18 PM
Nov 2025

Their home is on the "lake" side of Palm Beach, about five or six miles north of Mar-a-Lago.

Trump's schedule puts him at Mar-a-Lago for Thanksgiving, 2017.

Surely, none of this proves anything, but it does seem relevant whether Trump visited the home of Glenn and Eva Dubin during Thanksgiving 2017. Presumably, the Secret Service would have a record of this, since they would have to have transported Trump and family to Dubin's and cleared the property in advance of depositing the President there.

Also, one might think to ask Glenn and Eva Dubin if the President of the United States attended Thanksgiving at their home in 2017. I feel like I would remember something like that. Ditto for David Fiszel and whoever Hanson may be. It seems like a thing somebody might want to ask under oath, though.

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
37. Wouldn't it have been easier if the Dubin's went to Mar-a-Lago?
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:40 PM
Nov 2025

It just seems like it would have taken a few days for the SS to be able to review the property and develop a plan for security.

Prairie Gates

(8,152 posts)
38. Certainly...a poster downthread makes a good point:
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:43 PM
Nov 2025

"who else is going to be down there" probably refers to Palm Beach in general, not the Dubins in particular. It's also unlikely that Trump would go to actual Thanksgiving at somebody else's house: he does have the whole damn clan to feed, etc.

Wiz Imp

(9,993 posts)
21. This should be the #1 story. Trump said he hadn't talked to Epstein in 20 years
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:16 PM
Nov 2025

This proves that was a lie.

RockCreek

(1,471 posts)
23. "down there"
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:32 PM
Nov 2025

could just refer to Palm Beach.
I'd like it to refer to the Dubin's place but...

Prairie Gates

(8,152 posts)
25. "where are you having thanksgiving?" "eva" "that means glenn check out his red hair"
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 01:57 PM
Nov 2025

"eva" is Eva Andersson Dubin, Glenn Dubin's wife and former girlfriend of Epstein.

"glenn" is Glenn Dubin, who is married to Eva and has red hair.

There's really no other way to interpret the exchange than that Epstein is expecting to have Thanksgiving at Eva Dubin's house and Glenn will be present. She even used two n's for Glenn, the correct spelling.

ON EDIT: Oh, I see what you mean: he might just be saying that Trump is "down there" at Mar-a-Lago. Good point!

Would be interesting to see if David Fiszel and "Hanson" were actually at Thanksgiving dinner at the Dubin's and not just "down there."

RockCreek

(1,471 posts)
29. Yes, unfortunately
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:09 PM
Nov 2025

I don't know where you are from, but I've lived in the NE US for most of my life. "Down there" could mean Palm Beach Island to someone referring to it from NY. And Epstein seems to have been grandiose and tried to pump up his importance any chance he got. The wording "down there" may have given him that chance.

Bluesaph

(1,026 posts)
36. Yes but why mention Trump at all in this context?
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:50 PM
Nov 2025

Hey where you doing TG?

Rubin’s

Who else is down there?

Trump.

Why mention Trump at all?

Prairie Gates

(8,152 posts)
39. I agree with RockCreek that this is a just a manner of speaking
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:47 PM
Nov 2025

If I were going to the Hamptons for 4th of July, I could totally see an exchange like:

What are you doing for the Fourth?

Oh, I'm going to Jay's house in the Hamptons

Who else will be out there?

Jen, Ray Ray, Scouse, the usual. (Where this refers to who else will be out in the Hamptons, not at Jay's house. I do think this may be regional NY thing or a way of speaking among people who have vacation homes in the same place)

flvegan

(66,278 posts)
27. 2017 during Trump's family separation policy where the children
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:08 PM
Nov 2025

were taken from their parents/families and went...where again? They certainly accounted for all of them, right?

RIGHT???

Grins

(9,459 posts)
30. With Epstein? And not with his loving family? In prayer giving thanks...?
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:12 PM
Nov 2025

I’m shocked!!!!

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
31. And who is Faith Kates, another modeling agency!
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:17 PM
Nov 2025



Another modeling agency to procure young girls.

In 1989, partners Faith Kates and Joel Wilkenfeld started Next modelling agency which they have subsequently grown aggressively. Kates started at Wilhemina models in the 1980s and supervised the women’s division before leaving to launch her own agency.

The agency quickly expanded into key markets, including London, Paris, Milan, Los Angeles and Miami. Next is known within the industry for working with top new faces as well as established fashion models with global recognition. Credited with spotting top models such as Arizona Muse , Abbey Lee Kershaw, Zuzanna Bijoch and Suvi Koponen, Next oversees the careers of some of the most internationally recognisable faces on runways and in editorials. In October 2017, it was announced that Next would open a men's division in New York.



Figarosmom

(11,979 posts)
32. trump is scum
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:23 PM
Nov 2025

So hannitys bullshit about trump kicking him out of his golf club means nothing. He still hung with him , he just didn't want epstein stealing " his" girls.

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