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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNYC council member [Chi Osse] prepares Democratic primary challenge against Hakeem Jeffries
NBC News:
Chi Ossé, a member of the New York City Council, has filed paperwork to launch a primary challenge against House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
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Ossé also publicly hinted at a run on Monday afternoon by writing in an X post, Seems like were in a dire situation, responding to another post noting Ossé had recently said he would not run for Congress and that it would take a "dire situation" for him to spend his twenties in the nation's capital.
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The top House Democrat has not faced a competitive primary fight in the recent past, and has run unopposed in primaries in five of his last seven elections, including last year, in the deep-blue district. Jeffries won a seventh term last year by 51 points, and former Vice President Kamala Harris won the district by 44 points, both winning more than 70% of the vote.
Ossé was first elected to the New York City council in 2021 at just 23 years old, and he reportedly joined the Democratic Socialists of America earlier this year. Ossé is an ally of New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani, although the New York Times reported that Mamdani discouraged Ossé from challenging Jeffries.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna244444
yankee87
(2,824 posts)I am going to be nice and just say this is great. The Democratic Party is wholly against the genocide in Palestine. Meanwhile, the current leadership is in the pocket of AIPAC.
anciano
(2,256 posts)IMO all members of the House and Senate ideally should have primary opponents each time they are up for re-election and also be subject to term limits. Congressional service should be a "public service", not a career.
Samael13
(134 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)the things that need to be done.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)tritsofme
(19,900 posts)RandySF
(84,260 posts)Lot of accounts I havent seen before going after Democratic figures (and not so much Republicans).
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)Response to RandySF (Reply #5)
PeaceWave This message was self-deleted by its author.
Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)That one left some long-lasting bitter memories. Thankfully, Obama/Biden went on to win going away.
DFW
(60,182 posts)Election season is upon us. Time to get moving. Republicans? What Republicans? Do you see any Republicans anywhere? I see lots of Democratic feet, including my own, and I have a loaded pistol pointed right at them. First things first!! Besides, Jeffries is 55. Thats thirty years older than any member of Congress ought to be, right? (Vermont exceptedthose endorsements will have to come from somewhere, wont they?).
2015-2016 indeed. It does seem like certain parties would love a repeat performance. After all, it turned out so well for us ten years ago
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QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)but that would make too much sense. That would help to weaken the GOP and to empower Democrats. But, for some odd reason, there are some individuals who think it's better to attack Democrats. Weird.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)weaken Democrats? That's not a loss. You do know any Democrat has the right to run for another Democrats seat? It's not a god given job or a lifetime seat.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)My point is that we should be spending our time and effort and money attacking REPUBLICANS and trying to weaken them and reduce their numbers instead of wasting time on shit like this.
Of course he has "every right" to do so... that's irrelevant. What matters is this: IT'S A STUPID MOVE.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)Actually, I never argued whether Democrats could do more than one thing at a time... again, that's yet another weak strawman argument. Trying to sabotage and bloody up Jeffries is just a stupid move. He will fail. Deservedly so.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)I don't know what you think when you see what's going on today, but I ask myself how did that work out for us? I think younger progressive politicians will get will get us what we need. The electorate is changing if we keep the same path we will stay right where we are.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)going on here. It's insane. Her style and tactics have never helped... only harmed. Why encourage and defend it?
Autumn
(48,962 posts)QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)As far as i know, you're not the one running against Jeffries. But be sure to let us know if that changes. 🤣😂🤪🤡😀
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Yeah gotcha
Things never change.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)... you're right... "things never change". Perfect!
Nixie
(17,984 posts)for the Bernie movement, as you know. So its a bit strange you would say youre being insulted over being compared to an idol.
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)The reasons we lost are right in front of us but everyone wants to believe it was because we weren't progressive ENOUGH
And no one wants to discuss the reasons some Democrats voted for trump.
leftstreet
(40,670 posts)The 6+ million RELIABLY Democratic voters who voted Biden, but not Harris
Is the reason for this right in front of us?
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)I've asked the few I know who admitted it.
And this is the first time I've heard an actual number. I didnt realize it was THAT many.
And as I've said in many other posts we're simply not allowed to have an open discussion HERE as to the reasons for their decision.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)LR3
(177 posts)The wide range of winners a couple of weeks ago show it isn't about degree of progressiveness, it is 100% about willingness to fight, no holds barred.
Schumer stands for nothing beyond staying in power, and Jeffries listens to the same milquetoast consultants that preach playing by outdated rules.
Jbraybarten
(265 posts)Whether or not one should run may be stupid in terms of attempting to defeat an incumbent, but we - thankfully - don't live in a system where it's prohibited from running.
JFC.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)(and other gestures of purity) is prohibited either. I'll keep calling-out the stupid wherever I see it. Our time and money is better spent trying to attack, defeat, divide and weaken the GOP. It just amazes me that anyone thinks it's a good idea to do this to Democrats instead. JFC. FFS.
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Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)So that new or different ideas or priorities can be compared and contrasted against those of the incumbents. Without those challenges, incumbents can be tempted to become lazy or stale, running with ideas that may no longer be relevant in the current time.
Now, that being said, I will never approve of dirty, smear primary campaigns. That's where the problems come in.
Jbraybarten
(265 posts)Samael13
(134 posts)We should challenge Republicans but I see nothing wrong with democrats challenging democrats. Being in public office is a privilege not a right. The voters will decide who they want in the end.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)I don't know how I can make it any clearer. Swapping a Democrat for a Democrat does absolutely nothing in getting us closer to regaining control of Congress. But flipping a single GOP-held seat gets us a TWO-SEAT advantage. Do the math. Do your own research. Why waste time with these purity tests? It's just a vanity indulgence at the point. When we think and plan strategically rather than react emotionally... we'll do much better.
Samael13
(134 posts)But I have no problem with a democrat running against a democrat in a primary in the end the voters will decide who they want on the ballot. Its how democracy works and I will always support that.
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)So whats the difference.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)we wouldn't be where we are.
Callie1979
(1,350 posts)VP Harris was put in a terrible position she didnt deserve to be put in.
A different candidate wouldn't have had that problem.
But we should LEARN to better prepare for '26 & '28
Me getting a post hidden for asking a question I'm sure a LOT of people had abut the NYC race is an indicator that some dont WANT to learn
MichMan
(17,150 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)I don't think that Osse has a chance. And I think the district, which is represented by the who most likely would be the next speaker of the house and all the influence that goes with that, would be insane to vote him out to get a newcomer in with no political influence.
District 8 spans Bed Stuy to Canarsie to Coney Island to parts of Bay Ridge. Osse is a city council member in good standing, and he's DSA aligned. (They have not given him any support yet.).
In the end Jeffries should WIPE THE FLOOR with him. But we will see.
My district has Lander thinking of Primarying Daniel Goldman, and I am VERY MUCH a Goldman appreciator. He's been an effective legislator and voice in the government. So that's another primary I'm not thrilled with.
Cha
(319,067 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:04 AM - Edit history (1)
the Mainland and the Ocean.. but I really like Rep Dan Goldman, for an long time now, and Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
TY for your Opinion of what's going on in Yours & Goldman's District!
And, Exactly this...
Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)It's interesting because Osse doesn't have the backing of AOC. Mamdani or the DSA (yet). So I'm curious how far this exploration of a run will go.
Lander is very popular in my neck of the woods, so he will do well in Brownstone Brooklyn. But not sure he'll do well in the other areas in our district: Wall Street, Borough Park, some Bay Ridge.
Cha
(319,067 posts)I read that Mayor Elect Mamdani isn't keen on Brad Lander.
I can't find it now but when I do I'm going to post it here for you to read.
Cha
(319,067 posts)Snip***
The two went weeks without talking, and though Lander would get defensive and blame overlapping post-election vacations, all his talk that hed be the one really running the city next year had gotten back to Mamdani and not gone over well.
By the weekend before the election, Landers wife was telling friends at a party that Mamdani had called to tell the comptroller he would not have a job in the administration since he wasnt getting the job he wanted.
By the day before the election, Lander was reaching out to major donors to solicit commitments for a congressional run against Rep. Dan Goldman, according to a person familiar with the matter.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/politics/how-zohran-mamdani-won
A couple of Tweets on it at the DU link..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20799513
Scrivener7
(59,520 posts)QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)and deplete their campaign funds. This opens the door for a well-funded Republican to come in and flip the seat to GOP control.
Replacing a Democrat with another Democrat does absolutely nothing to move us closer to having a majority in either house of congress. Only when we FLIP seats and REMOVE Republicans and REPLACE them with Democrats are we ever going to gain control again. The math is quite simple..
Too bad some don't understand THAT. Weird.
Jeffries won with 75% of the vote in 2024. The idea that a primary would weaken him and an R would swoop in and win is laughable.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)rather than putting towar much better use is equally laughable. (In this case, "better use" means using the money to DEFEAT GOP incumbents and FLIP SEATS in swing-districts and swing-states... OR... "better use" means to spend the money defending seats in areas that are historically swing-states or swing-districts where the Dem incumbent is threatened, or when the Dem nominee might not be able to pull off a win.
A one-for-one exchange (obviously for purity and vanity and virtue-signaling reasons) serves no good purpose, especially when it does absolutely NOTHING with regard to helping the Democrats regain control of Congress. But for every GOP seat that we flip, that gives us a TWO-SEAT advantage that we didn't have before.
Laugh-it-up! The math is easy. The hard part (for many) is being able to see the big picture and make strategic moves rather than emotional ones or being motivated by wanting revenge against Democrats.
LR3
(177 posts)"for purity and vanity and virtue-signaling reasons" "emotional ones or being motivated by wanting revenge against Democrats."
Sure, anyone that wants to thoroughly bury the Republicans for a good long time is obviously "virtue signaling", "emotional", and "wants revenge against Democrats"
Better to play it cautious, don't fight too strenuously, and continue to listen to the Third Way advice. It sure has worked wonders so far!
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)I'm always in favor of "strenuously" fighting Republicans (not Democrats.) The fact that so many are intent on denigrating Democrats goes with their treachery, sabotage and voter suppression (ahem... remember "leave it blank" anyone?)
It's an all-hands-on-deck moment... it's time to shit or get off the pot. It's a waste of time to continue taking cheap shots at Democratic leadership for vanity and purity reasons. In the end, it serves no useful purpose. It just amplifies the lies of the "both parties are the same" brigade. And this actually goes a very long way in explaining your "worked wonders so far" rhetorical observation. (So to speak.)
LR3
(177 posts)like for instance the vast majority of voters two weeks ago is:
"for purity and vanity and virtue-signaling reasons" "emotional ones or being motivated by wanting revenge against Democrats." as well as engaging in "treachery, sabotage and voter suppression".
JFC. What loser mentality.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)and that's why it's important to keep the momentum going. Parroting the "Democrats suck" message and amplifying the "both sides are the same" message, and defending or promoting the "leave it blank" and "uncommitted" efforts to punish the party do very little to sustain our current level of energy. The optimism needle is starting to move a little bit in our direction... I think everyone can agree that we do not need the purity tests and and attacks on our own party. Such attacks are better suited for those who actually DESERVE to be attacked and smeared: The Republicans.
LR3
(177 posts)You are REALLY REALLY REALLY good at ascribing motives, actions, and statements that never happened.
Claiming, baselessly, that I or anyone else is "parroting the "Democrats suck" message and amplifying the "both sides are the same" message, and defending or promoting the "leave it blank" and "uncommitted"". But, these go in the pile with all the other things you've wrongly claimed.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)I never said anything about you. The "Democrats suck" message has been clear and loud... it's truly a waste of my time to interact with anyone who is pretending like it doesn't exist, or that it doesn't happen. Leave-it-blank was real and so was "uncommitted" ... It would be more productive for me to be talking to a waffle iron rather than to anyone who denies these realities.
🥱
Scrivener7
(59,520 posts)This is a Democracy. If the majority of the party in his district agrees with you, Jeffries will survive. If not, he won't.
It's up to everyone. Everyone's opinion matters. Not just yours.
SunImp
(2,705 posts)to quickly change their tune when someone tries to primary certain reps in Michigan & Minnesota.
Scrivener7
(59,520 posts)having hissy fits over it.
I can't even.
I'm going to watch Ken Burns.
Maru Kitteh
(31,759 posts)In a DEMOCRACY, they must compete for those jobs. They should be competing more vigorously than they are currently. NONE of them should feel safe. Not one.
Jbraybarten
(265 posts)QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)But, if you want to defend that, be my guest... you'll find no arguments or objections from me. Relying on such strenuous efforts actually reveals a position of weakness and arguments that are lacking. Feel free to waste your own time, not mine. I'll leave you to talk amongst yourself. Bye.
aocommunalpunch
(4,581 posts)When is a primary okay with you?
Scrivener7
(59,520 posts)Some guy on the internet has a problem with the American system.
Okay. Whatever.
Jbraybarten
(265 posts)DFW
(60,182 posts)No one said otherwise, just like common sense cannot be enforced in a court of law.
Jbraybarten
(265 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 19, 2025, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)
..is an "attack" on Democrats isn't suggesting that people shouldn't run? What kind of disingenuous crap is that?
Cha
(319,067 posts)"New Blood" means Nothing when up against Knowledge and Qualified Experience
MichMan
(17,150 posts)After all, she had never held elected office before, while he was a ten term incumbent and a Democratic Caucus chair.
Cha
(319,067 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 18, 2025, 04:48 PM - Edit history (1)
about Leader Hakeem Jeffries.
Response to Cha (Reply #37)
MichMan This message was self-deleted by its author.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)or by raising an unrelated issue to change the subject. In my opinion, it reveals that the other person is making weak arguments, and they likely know it.
The primary goal is to shift focus away from the original difficult question to avoid accountability or to defend an idea or goal with questionable value or that has high-risk and very little (if any) gain.
So, instead of addressing the validity of the initial criticism, the person using whataboutism exaggerates a perceived flaw in their opponent or another party... or they'll often imply a moral equivalence between two different views, even if they are not truly comparable in context.
In the end, this weak tactic serves as a red herring, introducing an irrelevant topic to derail the conversation and "muddy the waters".
You handled this very well.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)It wasn't clear that it specifically applied only to Jeffries. The odd use of capitalization had me wondering if there was some hidden meaning.
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QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)in the whirlwind of a bustling forum, where words race like caffeinated squirrels, its all too easy to misinterpret a message or two. Clarity and precision often take a backseat, tossed aside like forgotten umbrellas in the rain, while the glittering jewels of spelling and proofreading are sacrificed on the altar of brevity and speed. Its a chaotic ballet where meanings pirouette away, leaving us to grasp at the fleeting glimpses of intent.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)Jbraybarten
(265 posts)QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)These types of purity games do absolutely NOTHING to help us to regain the majority. A one-for-one swap that involves the real risk of giving a well-funded GOP challenger an advantage is simply not worth it. The virtue-signaling and purity tests are a luxury that we simply cannot afford. In this all-hands-on-deck moment... we need to be spending our time, energy and money toward the important mission of fighting AND REPLACING Republicans. It's simple math, FFS.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)who are running on a Democratic ticket also saying the Democrats, then we get the Trumpies. Its not hard to remember how we got here.
Scrivener7
(59,520 posts)Jbraybarten
(265 posts)FFS.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)See ya later, alligator!
Cha
(319,067 posts)boring to try and debate Common Strategic Sense, Expert Knowledge, and Wanting to WIN VS only caring about "new blood" or whatever.
TY
Jbraybarten
(265 posts)Cha
(319,067 posts)either.
Exclusive: AOC says Chi Ossé primary challenge against Jeffries not a "good idea"
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220813193
Thank You for Explaining the intricacies of "muddying the waters" so well yourself. After 23 years here it's not the fist time to run across it. Never works.
to you, Queer Duck
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)has crossed-over to become "establishment" ... or insinuations that she views Jeffries as "royalty" ... or snide comments that she's a "neo-liberal." --- I swear, all the buzzwords and insults are flying at me fast and furious today... now that we know that AOC is in agreement, will she be swarmed too?
This will be interesting to watch.
Cha
(319,067 posts)more about what's going on in Congress than AOC and others who are Actually in there Every Day. Doing the Work
Maybe just Maybe they know Strategy Better?
Celerity
(54,405 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220796693
Mr. Mamdani also may want to avoid the optics of having Mr. Ossé challenge the House Democratic leader, who endorsed Mr. Mamdani in October after months of negotiation.
The disagreement caused Mr. Ossé to be disinvited from Mr. Mamdanis election night watch party, according to two people familiar with the matter, even though he has been a frequent presence at Mr. Mamdanis campaign events. Instead, Mr. Ossé said he spent the night with my constituents at D.S.A. events celebrating Zohrans incredible win.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Celerity
(54,405 posts)US House minority leader ends four-month standoff over backing for Democratic nominee
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/24/zohran-mamdani-hakeem-jeffries-endorsement
The House minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, endorsed Zohran Mamdani for New York City mayor on Friday, ending a four-month standoff that left the Democratic nominee without the backing of one of the partys most powerful figures until the day before early voting begins. The announcement arrives after months of pressure from progressives in Congress and after the top Democrat has been repeatedly grilled by reporters about his reluctance to support his partys candidate. Zohran Mamdani has relentlessly focused on addressing the affordability crisis and explicitly committed to being a mayor for all New Yorkers, including those who do not support his candidacy, Jeffries wrote in a statement. In that spirit, I support him and the entire citywide Democratic ticket in the general election.
The Brooklyn representatives delay has been particularly striking given that Mamdani, a democratic socialist, won the primary and Jeffriess district decisively in June to defeat former governor Andrew Cuomo in what was considered a seismic upset. Jeffriess endorsement makes the Senate minority leader, Chuck Schumer, also of New York, the sole major Democratic congressional leadership holdout. The lack of earlier endorsements has not stopped the citys magnetism for Mamdani, who maintains a commanding lead in polls for the 4 November general election, when he will face independent candidate Cuomo and Republican Curtis Sliwa.
Jeffriess extended hesitation stands in contrast with typical party unity timelines. The New York governor, Kathy Hochul, assembly speaker Carl Heastie and senate majority leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins all have endorsed Mamdani, as have the New York representatives Jerry Nadler, Adriano Espaillat and Yvette Clarke each of whom backed other candidates in the primary. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez endorsed Mamdani before the primary, and has campaigned with him since. The minority leader has spent months deflecting questions from reporters, repeatedly instructing the media to stay tuned while insisting he had not refused to endorse, just that he refused to articulate his position.
This hair-splitting did little to disguise what appeared to be profound discomfort with the 34-year-old democratic socialist whose upset primary victory upended the Democratic establishments expectations. When pressed by CNBC in August about the continued questioning on his Mamdani stance, a visibly frustrated Jeffries shot back: Im trying to understand why you would spend a significant amount of time asking me about the Democratic nominee whos not even the mayor. Jeffries, who raked in more than $1m from the pro-Israel lobby in 2023-2024, cited concerns about Mamdanis past rhetoric on Israel and antisemitism, particularly the assembly members initial refusal to denounce the phrase globalize the intifada. Mamdani has also made the highly unlikely campaign promise to arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he travels to New York.
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W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)Jeffries showed more support for Mamdani than he did the last Democrat running for NYC mayor, whom he NEVER endorsed.
Endorsements like his often wait till closer to the election to have more of an impact. I believe his came on the heels of early voting opening up.
Endorsing Mamdani in the summer would have accomplished nothing other than placating a certain segment of progressives about 12 hours before they found something else to hate on Jeffries for.
SocialDemocrat61
(7,645 posts)where people were so focused on endorsements. And those who are don't even live in NYC.
QueerDuck
(1,706 posts)to be fixated on such things. IMHO
SocialDemocrat61
(7,645 posts)to play the victim.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)to endorse Hochul even though she endorsed him.
mcar
(46,055 posts)We should be running against Republicans.
dem4decades
(14,057 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)Response to GJGCA (Original post)
PeaceWave This message was self-deleted by its author.
Cha
(319,067 posts)saying That.. a lot.
I say it too.... only the Come on!
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)Bet Republicans will finance this campaign.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)Halicarnassus
(27 posts)You think the people of NY-8 are going to get rid of the next likely Speaker of the House?
But its great all these progressives keep running against strong, unbeatable Democratic incumbents, its not a waste of time, money, and resources at all.🙄
Deminpenn
(17,504 posts)with me.
Halicarnassus
(27 posts)Pelosi dropped her pretty lefty politics when she became Speaker to shift to the role of leader. It was a lot less ideological and political. Much more behind the scenes, and interactive. Its a different beast, being a congressional leader. See: my dude, Lyndon Johnson.
Torchlight
(6,823 posts)Another name lost to fog after another primary ends.
MichMan
(17,150 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)don't know much about Chi Ossé, just that he's "new blood."
Sure, let's chuck the House minority leader for...a NYC council member just cuz he's new.
Couldn't Ossé get some experience before jumping in? It takes more than ideas and a "Democratic Socialist" label to be a successful politician.
DFW
(60,182 posts)
..that I have but one rec to give for your post.
(Apologies to Patrick Henry)
betsuni
(29,077 posts)from the fictional Democrat-monsters. That's the brand being advertised.
RandySF
(84,260 posts)I hope it doesnt get ugly.
Response to RandySF (Reply #101)
PeaceWave This message was self-deleted by its author.
Halicarnassus
(27 posts)in what will ultimately be a completely irrelevant primary.
Your Democratic member of Congress is so close to being the next Speaker. Third in line to the presidency, overseer of half the legislative branch.
Do you
(A) excitedly vote for them once more?
(B) vote for some no-name socialist who has no chance, and wont even be a footnote in history?
Thats what I thought.
Just_Vote_Dem
(3,644 posts)He should be running in a district that currently is represented by a Repub, that way we could pick up a seat.
Samael13
(134 posts)First off let me say I like Jeffries and hope to see him be our speaker. I'd also prefer Ossé try to flip a republican seat. But this idea that anyone is above being primaried is ludicrous. I truly wish it was mandatory that every elected official face a primary challenger each election. Its doubtful Jeffries will lose the primary but lets argue his district no longer wants him to represent them I'd rather see them get behind another democrat instead of just not voting or voting for a republican or splitting the vote.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)That is how our system works. No one in any party is owed a seat and winning a seat in Congress does not mean anyone is entitled to a lifetime career . If he gets the votes good for him, if not Jefferies remains