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B.See

(8,494 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:40 PM Nov 2025

'Could bring him down': Senator says Trump was 'clearly at center of child sex ring'

'Could bring him down': Senator says Trump was 'clearly at center of child sex ring' - Rawstory

With a vote on releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein just days away, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) said this weekend that it was clear... Donald Trump was “at the center of a child sex ring,” and that (Trump's) behavior over the past week made it clear that the files contained “something especially and specifically incriminating.”

“What we've already seen is immensely incriminating; clearly, Donald Trump was at the center of a child sex ring,” Murphy said, speaking over the weekend with The Bulwark Managing Editor Sam Stein during a panel.


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'Could bring him down': Senator says Trump was 'clearly at center of child sex ring' (Original Post) B.See Nov 2025 OP
That's throwing a punch BeyondGeography Nov 2025 #1
My Christmas wish stollen Nov 2025 #37
I second that Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #40
That's incredible... Mike Nelson Nov 2025 #2
Or Lingering in Epstein's Bedroom for Hours with Likely Drugged Underaged Women The Roux Comes First Nov 2025 #4
Or... Mike Nelson Nov 2025 #10
This radical noodle Nov 2025 #36
You thought that? BWdem4life Nov 2025 #17
I assume... Chemical Bill Nov 2025 #33
So is Lindsey Halligan going to a GJ to get Sen. Murphy indicted too? MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #3
She Seems to Have a Remarkable Knack for Bollixing Up Everything She Touches The Roux Comes First Nov 2025 #6
As A Sexual Predator OR As The Money Launderer?.....nt global1 Nov 2025 #5
Good question. Possibly B.See Nov 2025 #7
He is both of those and more, he is a rapist, a child sex trafficker, money launderer, murderer, Bev54 Nov 2025 #30
Why not both? evolves Nov 2025 #35
One thing I don't see discussed much misanthrope Nov 2025 #8
Senator Wyden has the goods on the financial stuff but has has a hard time getting it to go any where. He has put Amaryllis Nov 2025 #11
I feel like "Did miss something?" by missing some news? electric_blue68 Nov 2025 #9
So much is happening so fast, PatSeg Nov 2025 #14
Whoa! Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #12
Modeling agencies are a classic vehicle RockCreek Nov 2025 #13
I was asked if I wanted to be a model I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2025 #34
Child sex rings, money laundering, kompromat, blackmail, .... Escape Nov 2025 #15
Not to minimize what Senator Murphy is saying by any means, but until a real live, none-retiring Republican... the nelm Nov 2025 #16
... said Sen. R.U. New (D-CT) BaronChocula Nov 2025 #18
Well, he did say "could," so B.See Nov 2025 #20
I think Murphy's great BaronChocula Nov 2025 #22
He's toast now.. Permanut Nov 2025 #19
Isn't this like a one phone call thing? Blue Owl Nov 2025 #21
The survivors KNOW and when they reveal this vapor2 Nov 2025 #32
I don't see it happening KentuckyWoman Nov 2025 #23
Murphy is a good man: He doesn't sensationalize. No BS. I'd love to see him run for POTUS. lindysalsagal Nov 2025 #24
Donvict should resign malaise Nov 2025 #25
K&R spanone Nov 2025 #26
From 2012. twodogsbarking Nov 2025 #27
"Donvict should resign" J_William_Ryan Nov 2025 #28
Trump probably got off on watching. Martin68 Nov 2025 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author vapor2 Nov 2025 #31
He must be on suicide watch by now usonian Nov 2025 #38
The Epstein scandal is about sooo much more than "who's on the list." pat_k Nov 2025 #39

stollen

(1,143 posts)
37. My Christmas wish
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 03:07 PM
Nov 2025

Restore our competence and confidence in our govt. starting with the pedos of all political persuasions.

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
2. That's incredible...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:54 PM
Nov 2025

... I wonder if Sen. Murphy knows something we haven't seen, yet? The "center" means, to me, manager or co-manager status... something equal to Epstein and Maxwell. I thought Crooked Donald's involvement was more fringe... or onlooker.

The Roux Comes First

(2,278 posts)
4. Or Lingering in Epstein's Bedroom for Hours with Likely Drugged Underaged Women
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:00 PM
Nov 2025

And this was doubtless not a one-time occurrence.

radical noodle

(10,595 posts)
36. This
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 02:01 PM
Nov 2025

Nothing motivates trump like money. And we already know he loves to have info on others to use against them.

BWdem4life

(3,003 posts)
17. You thought that?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:19 PM
Nov 2025

That The Donald would stand by and watch his friend make all kinds of money and not want a major piece of the action?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
3. So is Lindsey Halligan going to a GJ to get Sen. Murphy indicted too?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:59 PM
Nov 2025

She ain't been having too much luck with the judges so far.

The Roux Comes First

(2,278 posts)
6. She Seems to Have a Remarkable Knack for Bollixing Up Everything She Touches
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:02 PM
Nov 2025

And pissing off the few judges not previously bought off by the orange felon and the "heritage" foundation.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
30. He is both of those and more, he is a rapist, a child sex trafficker, money launderer, murderer,
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:14 PM
Nov 2025

a fraudster and every other type of criminal. He is a true abomination.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
8. One thing I don't see discussed much
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:05 PM
Nov 2025

is Jeffrey Epstein's other passions beyond sheer sexual depravity. The biggest of those was shady financial dealing and it was a huge part of how he amassed the power he had.

Now while many of us have our suspicions that Trump was a "short eyed" sexual predator, we know for certain he is magnetically drawn to illegal financial hijinks. He can't help himself. I have to wonder if that isn't as much a part of his paranoia about the Epstein files as anything else.

Amaryllis

(11,285 posts)
11. Senator Wyden has the goods on the financial stuff but has has a hard time getting it to go any where. He has put
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:16 PM
Nov 2025

several years into investigating it.

electric_blue68

(26,856 posts)
9. I feel like "Did miss something?" by missing some news?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:08 PM
Nov 2025

I haven't followed it supper closely, but enough, I think. He is, Epstein was, Ghislaine is a monster. Years of hideous criminal actions.

You go, Sen Murphy!

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
14. So much is happening so fast,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:41 PM
Nov 2025

it is hard to keep up. Meanwhile, people are still examining what has been released and more of the whole picture seems to be coming together.

Chris Murphy doesn't tend to be hyperbolic, so I am assuming that what he says is based on solid evidence.

RockCreek

(1,470 posts)
13. Modeling agencies are a classic vehicle
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:35 PM
Nov 2025

And he had a modeling agency in the relevant time period.
Epstein is known to have had direct connections of the worst kind with a French modeling agency. The guy who ran it, who repeatedly raped Virginia Guifre, died of reported suicide while in jail for his illegal modelling related "activities" a few years ago.

I_UndergroundPanther

(13,369 posts)
34. I was asked if I wanted to be a model
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:59 PM
Nov 2025

He gave me a card. I called the number got wigged out and hung up before the manager got to the phone.

Maybe it was a good thing I wigged out.

Escape

(469 posts)
15. Child sex rings, money laundering, kompromat, blackmail, ....
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:46 PM
Nov 2025

Epstein and Trump were made for each other.

the nelm

(270 posts)
16. Not to minimize what Senator Murphy is saying by any means, but until a real live, none-retiring Republican...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:13 PM
Nov 2025

Senator says something like this, it unfortunately doesn't move the ball that much. They are still the majority and still aren't budging. When that majority starts to crack, then I'll start thinking there might be some real justice. In the meantime, Senator Murphy keep pounding them with facts and truth.

BaronChocula

(4,553 posts)
18. ... said Sen. R.U. New (D-CT)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:19 PM
Nov 2025

I love Murphy's optimism, but rubber and road don't always meet. After everything for which the molten orange blob has been given a pass, I'm not holding my breath. But I hope he's right.

BaronChocula

(4,553 posts)
22. I think Murphy's great
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 02:33 AM
Nov 2025

He's a solid dependable Democrat. He's just been on my reality alert the past couple days. On Sunday he criticized the Caving 8 (for lack of a better term) saying he thought there was "a real shot" at getting a continuing resolution passed to end the shutdown. My first question was when. My second question was who else thought that a deal was possible. Republicans knew their future political fortunes were cooked after this month's elections. They also knew the C8 weren't on board with the shutdown and thus would probably eventually give in.

But like most people with a big mouth (or typing fingers) I really don't know.

Permanut

(8,390 posts)
19. He's toast now..
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:33 PM
Nov 2025

Oh, wait, I thought he was toast when he called war casualties "suckers and losers", or when he vilified the Kahn family, or when he was convicted of 34 counts of fraud, or when he said of Charlottesville that there were "fine people on both sides", or when he pardoned 1500 thugs who attacked the capital.

Never mind.

Blue Owl

(59,094 posts)
21. Isn't this like a one phone call thing?
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 01:11 AM
Nov 2025

tRump is at the center of a child sex ring.

BOOM. Presidency OVER.

KentuckyWoman

(7,400 posts)
23. I don't see it happening
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 04:17 AM
Nov 2025

Oh I believe he's a ring leader of child sex trafficking. No doubt whatever in my mind. But I see no ending where Trump goes down for any crime regardless of how incredibly disgusting. He's the master at finding teeny weenie loopholes in the law and exploiting them for personal gain. The only bright spot in my lack of belief is that Jean Carroll took him down. So it CAN be done. We just need that repeated on a scale that removes him from office and into a jumpsuit that matches his face.

lindysalsagal

(22,905 posts)
24. Murphy is a good man: He doesn't sensationalize. No BS. I'd love to see him run for POTUS.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 10:21 AM
Nov 2025

J_William_Ryan

(3,496 posts)
28. "Donvict should resign"
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 11:13 AM
Nov 2025

That’s not going to happen.

And a Republican House will never impeach.

A Democratic House will impeach, but too few Senate Republicans will vote to convict.

Last, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment doesn't apply.

Trump’s not going anywhere.

Response to B.See (Original post)

pat_k

(13,371 posts)
39. The Epstein scandal is about sooo much more than "who's on the list."
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 05:34 PM
Nov 2025

As I listen to the press conference this morning, it became clear to me this is about a lot more than "the list."

The Epstein scandal could be the match that sparks unprecedented transformation

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