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no_hypocrisy

(54,910 posts)
Sun Dec 21, 2025, 08:59 PM Dec 2025

Analyzing Trump: ROSEBUD!

I've read how what created Donald Trump was first deposing his older brother, Fred Jr., and then his father, Fred Sr. IOW, his MO was to destroy and take over.

And yes, that's part of it.

But my thesis is that Trump could never break into "Old Money". And the more that he was denied entree, the more he became desperate. This status was the one thing that Roy Cohn couldn't threaten to break through the high privet hedges. He couldn't sue to be accepted into country clubs like the Maidstone in Easthampton or Tuxedo Park.

He lacked the patience. He lacked the social mores. He lacked knowledge of the traditions of "Old Money". He was ostentatious. He lacked decorum. He lacked loyalty. He came from Queens.

Oh, he tried. He sent his children to the choicest prep schools where Old Money send their children. He amassed a fortune, but money isn't the way to be accepted.

Trump is suffering from a sense of inferiority, knowing there is a class of people who will always feel superior to him.

I watched this video and it came to me:



In this video, we uncover the uncomfortable truth about old money families, high society, and why wealth alone is never enough to belong. From unspoken rules to silent social filters, you’ll learn how elite circles decide who gets access — and who never will, no matter how rich they become.

This isn’t about flashy luxury or new money success. It’s about lineage, discretion, emotional restraint, and the invisible expectations that govern elite culture.

If you’re fascinated by old money habits, high-society etiquette, quiet luxury, and the psychology of wealth — this video reveals what no one explains openly.
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Analyzing Trump: ROSEBUD! (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Dec 2025 OP
No thanks. Girard442 Dec 2025 #1
100% agree. Inferiority complex. Leading to pathological narcissism. AZJonnie Dec 2025 #2
I think it's chicken-and-egg ... Straw Man Dec 2025 #3
Most generational wealth collapses by the third. Xolodno Dec 2025 #4
For many years I treated a nuclear family which was PCIntern Dec 2025 #5

AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
2. 100% agree. Inferiority complex. Leading to pathological narcissism.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 02:19 AM
Dec 2025

The way to high society is not about having your name garishly sold and stamped across buildings in tacky gold letters. Esp. not ones that you don't even own, or are not a headquarters of your business. It's not through making your fortune as a fucking racist slumlord like Daddy Fred. It's not about running with assholes like Cohn (or Epstein). It's not about going on Stern and joking about what a piece of ass your daughter is. You don't pictures of you in your home with tacky fake gold shit everywhere. That's not how it works.

Basically, Fred/Don entirely lack CLASS, and that family are regarded as PARASITES, and MOBSTERS. No amount of money would ever get him "accepted" by High Society. He's tacky, classless, vulgar, vainglorious, racist & misogynist (in a way that's looked down upon, even if many of the "elites" share them, he goes about it all wrong), and they simply don't have to let people into the 'circle' if they don't want to, so they won't. Not with that asshole!

OTOH, Jared and Ivanka still have some chance to be if they avoid his stain.

Straw Man

(6,947 posts)
3. I think it's chicken-and-egg ...
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 03:47 AM
Dec 2025

... whether the inferiority complex or the pathological narcissism came first. I'm not sufficiently conversant with abnormal psychology to say that with certainty, though.

OTOH, Jared and Ivanka still have some chance to be if they avoid his stain.

I think that ship has already sailed. With stains.

Xolodno

(7,350 posts)
4. Most generational wealth collapses by the third.
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 05:14 AM
Dec 2025

If you exceed that, you might be considered into the "club".

Trick is, not to flaunt how wealthy you are. You can look wealthy but still have to be modest about it. Trump can't help himself but to flaunt it and talk about his questionable activities like a conquest. Those in the "club" do fundraisers and donate to causes...and sad to say, often donate to politicians that benefit themselves. As a famous comedian once said, "its a club, and you are not in it". Trump thinks these charities are for suckers and his hyjinx makes him smarter than them.

PCIntern

(28,370 posts)
5. For many years I treated a nuclear family which was
Mon Dec 22, 2025, 09:35 AM
Dec 2025

The direct linear descendants of one of the most famous “old money” Philadelphia families. I treated the mother, father, and their two children.

Please allow me to preface this by stating that they could not have been more pleasant to deal with in every respect. They showed genuine interest in anything we discussed which ranged from their dental health to my family. Yes, the parents were politically conservative but in that “noblesse oblige” fashion which likely no longer exists and were generally accepting of the new mores of society, inasmuch as they understood that society tends to evolve in that direction.

But lemme tell ya: they were not like “us”. Howzzat, you might ask. I will relate an incident and you shall know….

One day the parents were in the waiting room and so was a lovely lady whom I’d known for years and years. She had great depth and was very humanistic and interestingly professorial, as she was very learned. When she was brought back to see me, she quietly said, “Doctor, who was that couple I met in the waiting room? They are beyond remarkable in so many ways.” I told her exactly who they were and her response was, “Oh my God, I just KNEW that for the first time in my life, I had met royalty.”

I knew EXACTLY to what aspects of their personas she was referring.

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