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global1

(26,507 posts)
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:41 AM Dec 2025

Could The 4%+ Rise In Consumer Xmas Spending This Year Over Last Have Anything To Do.....

with tariff's and the resultant higher prices for goods & products of this year's consumer goods over last year's prices.

Maybe the same amount or a lesser amount of goods sold were purchased by consumers this year - but total dollars spent were higher because the prices were higher this year over last because of the cost of tariff's was built into the prices.

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Could The 4%+ Rise In Consumer Xmas Spending This Year Over Last Have Anything To Do..... (Original Post) global1 Dec 2025 OP
That is exactly it. OldBaldy1701E Dec 2025 #1
You don't need 37 dolls PXR-5 Dec 2025 #2
Its hard to believe the economy grew and no one is hiring Johonny Dec 2025 #3
Of course, and the data shows it. Happy Hoosier Dec 2025 #4
Big part of it. We should also ask: Who is doing the spending? Wounded Bear Dec 2025 #5
I heard that the top 10% earners crud Dec 2025 #6
There's probably some truth in that. yardwork Dec 2025 #7
Of course it's due to tariffs Fiendish Thingy Dec 2025 #8
The median amount spent per household on xmas shopping would be more illustrative than the mean AZJonnie Dec 2025 #9
It's not Fourth Quarter Christmas shopping. It's for the Third Quarter: July-September. hedda_foil Dec 2025 #10

OldBaldy1701E

(11,154 posts)
1. That is exactly it.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:47 AM
Dec 2025

They did that so they can then say that things were great because of that misleading number and they will not explain how they got it.

Because that would show just how bad things are compared to last year.

PXR-5

(578 posts)
2. You don't need 37 dolls
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 10:50 AM
Dec 2025

when 5 higher priced ones will do 😆
And stop it with all those pencils, just sketch in B&W 😆

Johonny

(26,195 posts)
3. Its hard to believe the economy grew and no one is hiring
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:06 AM
Dec 2025

Wall Street this morning doesn't appear to be buying what they're selling.

Happy Hoosier

(9,535 posts)
4. Of course, and the data shows it.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:13 AM
Dec 2025

The vaunted rise in Black Friday spending was accompanied by FEWER actual purchases.

Wounded Bear

(64,331 posts)
5. Big part of it. We should also ask: Who is doing the spending?
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:17 AM
Dec 2025

If the bulk of the spending is done by the top quintile, it means something different than if it was at the bottom.

crud

(1,257 posts)
6. I heard that the top 10% earners
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:18 AM
Dec 2025

are the ones doing all the buying this year, not so much the rest of us.

yardwork

(69,365 posts)
7. There's probably some truth in that.
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:24 AM
Dec 2025

The very wealthy are buying luxury goods like mad. Conspicuous consumption is all the rage.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,246 posts)
8. Of course it's due to tariffs
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:24 AM
Dec 2025

Let’s see the stats on the actual revenue generated by retailers, let’s the see the earnings reports on profits made over expenses.

AZJonnie

(3,707 posts)
9. The median amount spent per household on xmas shopping would be more illustrative than the mean
Tue Dec 23, 2025, 11:44 AM
Dec 2025

And so would looking at how much was actually received by the consumer, not just how much they spent.

I went to buy a bottle of nice, brand-name fragrance for my partner, something I've done many an xmas. I'm used to seeing prices for the nice stuff for $90-$120. This year the nice stuff was in the $180-200 range. As we waited for our gifts to be wrapped by staff, I chatted with another customer, who was equally chagrined and ready to blame tariffs as I suggested to them.

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