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moniss

(8,651 posts)
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:23 PM 7 hrs ago

So I was at the grocer's today and

although a week ago some beef prices had moderated they were back up to nearly the high of the year. Maybe price gouging for the holidays. I still saw few people around the meat case and the few that were just stared and weren't picking anything into their carts. When the public moves to belt tightening it is not something that changes back with a snap of the fingers and a "sale" or two.

I think people are well aware of the other costs in their lives going up. No amount of "creative" GDP or other numbers or proclamations from the fascists of price reductions that in the end are more aspirational than immediate are going to turn the herd back to spending as freely as before. Those of us who have lived through the general American public going into a belt tightening several times before know how this goes.

The bottom line is that people know what the ink on the paycheck says and elusive claims of "lower costs" down the road don't do squat to change that ink or the ink on the bills to be paid. Another one of the old tried and true signals of general belt tightening is when you see more and more vehicles sitting on front lawns and other areas with "For Sale" signs on them. I've seen that ramping up for the last few months. People are selling that 2nd or 3rd car. Getting rid of them not only brings in some cash but it also lowers costs for the household going forward.

We need to keep an eye on the foreclosure numbers, repo numbers, late credit card payment numbers, bankruptcies etc. The idea that the fascists are pushing the idea of a 50 year mortgage tells you how screwed up real estate valuations are compared to incomes. Good grief I remember when I first bought a house and most mortgages were 20 and 25 year and a healthy amount were 15 year. We have the same issues with vehicles. Pricing so out of whack to incomes that people are talking about pushing 10 year loans and more.

All of that is just digging the hole deeper. As most of us can attest there are many things that can happen to earning capacity, job availability, family health etc. and household income over a 10 year period let alone 50 years.

The hole is bad enough. Let's stop digging.

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So I was at the grocer's today and (Original Post) moniss 7 hrs ago OP
Isn't that it. mercuryblues 7 hrs ago #1
Inflation caused also by tRump tariffs FoxNewsSucks 6 hrs ago #3
Trump & Co. Making America 'Great' B.See 7 hrs ago #2
When Trump tells us the economy is great and prices are coming down Diamond_Dog 6 hrs ago #4
You write well cachukis 6 hrs ago #5
Thank you for the nice compliment. nt moniss 5 hrs ago #8
I went shopping just before Christmas (in Canada) and got beef sirloin tip Bev54 6 hrs ago #6
Shopped today at a popular grocery dweller 5 hrs ago #7
Yes indeed and I have noticed some quality issues moniss 5 hrs ago #9
Interesting. PoindexterOglethorpe 4 hrs ago #10
Plain old chuck roast is moniss 3 hrs ago #11
Trump can take credit for all the cheap beef he got from Argentina rather than American farmers and ranchers. Norrrm 3 hrs ago #12

mercuryblues

(16,165 posts)
1. Isn't that it.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:31 PM
7 hrs ago

Paychecks only go so far. Then ya dead ass broke until the next one. trump and his minions can't spin that.

That is what Dems need to run on...inflation directly caused by trumpconomics, supported by Vance. Not calling it affordability. Hammer the shit out of republicans for rubber stamping everything trump does. Tether him and Vance around their necks.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,493 posts)
3. Inflation caused also by tRump tariffs
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:46 PM
6 hrs ago

and caving to whatever greedy corporations & billionaires want.

Diamond_Dog

(39,722 posts)
4. When Trump tells us the economy is great and prices are coming down
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:49 PM
6 hrs ago

Yet we see exactly the opposite at the grocery store or any other store or on our insurance bills or utility bills

You’d think even the dumbest among us would know they’re being lied to. How long can he get away with blaming Biden??

Dems should shout from the rooftops on economic issues first and foremost.

Bev54

(13,176 posts)
6. I went shopping just before Christmas (in Canada) and got beef sirloin tip
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 09:25 PM
6 hrs ago

roast (grade AAA) at sale prices that we had in the spring $6.99 per lb. It was excellent but just checking this weeks sales, back up again.

dweller

(27,806 posts)
7. Shopped today at a popular grocery
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 09:41 PM
5 hrs ago

Produce shelves going empty , on a Wednesday

😐




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moniss

(8,651 posts)
9. Yes indeed and I have noticed some quality issues
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 09:46 PM
5 hrs ago

on more and more of the produce as well.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,449 posts)
10. Interesting.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:05 PM
4 hrs ago

I'm 77, live in a senior facility, and have literally not cooked in over a year. Which means I'm currently vague on grocery prices.

I am very fortunate.

moniss

(8,651 posts)
11. Plain old chuck roast is
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 11:41 PM
3 hrs ago

$12.99 a pound in many stores. Plain old hamburger is routinely $6.99 a pound and more. A couple of years ago chuck roast was always about $6.99 a pound by me and would go on sale at $4.99 a pound. Ground chuck was usually around that $4.99 a pound level and sometimes on sale for $3.49 a pound. Plain old hamburger was usually around $3.69 a pound and would go on sale for around $2.99 a pound in 5 pound packs.

Norrrm

(3,941 posts)
12. Trump can take credit for all the cheap beef he got from Argentina rather than American farmers and ranchers.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 12:10 AM
3 hrs ago

$40 billion for Argentine ranchers and $12 billion for American farmers and ranchers.

Probably easier to skim from money going out of country.

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