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Celerity

(53,955 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:22 AM Jan 1

Nick Shirley's daycare fraud claims debunked by local news station, with timestamped security video disproving

the accusations. The viral video has caused nonstop harassment of Somalian daycare owners.

Irresponsible journalism is not journalism.



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Nick Shirley's daycare fraud claims debunked by local news station, with timestamped security video disproving (Original Post) Celerity Jan 1 OP
Heh heh. Just as I suspected. DinahMoeHum Jan 1 #1
My thoughts exactly. Mr. Evil Jan 1 #15
Same MO Clouds Passing Jan 1 #36
He's totally going to go full Kony 2012 in the near future. Initech Jan 1 #48
Post removed Post removed Jan 2 #54
Sounds serious Torchlight Jan 2 #55
Dammit, missed it again. MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2 #60
I'm curious too MustLoveBeagles Jan 2 #61
I haven't been following this story to closely, mwmisses4289 Jan 1 #2
Worse, he had an entoruage who were wearing masks JHB Jan 1 #13
+1. Most day cares don't let random people open the door or watch the children through the window dalton99a Jan 1 #14
A the day care my grandkids went to, if you didn't have the door code, you didn't get in. rsdsharp Jan 1 #39
You are correct. NHvet Jan 1 #19
And you cannot take a picture of a child Seinan Sensei Jan 1 #23
Umm, that is 100% incorrect, if they're in public one can take a picture of a child, no written consent needed, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 1 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Jan 1 #40
You should probably delete this false information, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 1 #46
So, after given ample opportunity to delete this false information, you chose not to do so MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2 #62
The video I watched appeared to show Nick Shirley wanting to go inside a day-care center with a camera Seinan Sensei Jan 2 #63
Due to school shooting Johonny Jan 1 #34
Nick Shirley, the next Chalkie Birk. The clock is ticking down on your 15 minute time clock, Rick. marble falls Jan 1 #3
Perhaps he'll visit a college in Utah. Orrex Jan 1 #4
Irrelevance alone works for me. I'd like hear he's reduced to a part time service grind for a career. marble falls Jan 1 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2 #57
NEEDS HIS BACKGROUND INVESTIGATED orangecrush Jan 1 #31
He's is getting a serious looking at as we write about this feckless (he doesn't give a feck about anyone) bastard. marble falls Jan 1 #32
Just read in Hindustan Times he did a mission orangecrush Jan 1 #33
And they take "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" very seriously. marble falls Jan 1 #35
Just a heads up.... Hindustan Times is a really shit source, often pushes fake news Celerity Jan 1 #43
Thanks orangecrush Jan 2 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2 #56
The MSM has been acting like the Dump administration has a basis for all this harrassment. mdbl Jan 1 #5
This is their new 'They're eating the dogs' meme ToxMarz Jan 1 #7
Debunked, deshmunked, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 1 #8
This orangecrush Jan 1 #30
It isn't "irresponsible journalism." It's gaslighting. It's clickbaiting. It's race-baiting. Doodley Jan 1 #9
Beat me to it. orangecrush Jan 1 #29
This sounds a lot like last year's eating cats and dogs IronLionZion Jan 1 #10
Oh my! malaise Jan 1 #11
Wow WCCO! ... OldBoss Jan 1 #12
Gives me hope that, at least for now, WCCO isn't bending to the will of its corporate overlords at CBS nt dflprincess Jan 1 #45
The only "proof" he had was they didn't let some random incel in JI7 Jan 1 #16
Is there a link that doesn't take me to that Musk cesspool? maxrandb Jan 1 #17
I just went to the news stations website...link below chowder66 Jan 1 #22
Thanks! I already took a shower today, if I went to "X"-crement, I'd need another maxrandb Jan 1 #28
I'm Not Surprized Mr.Bee Jan 1 #18
Also CBS on X surfered Jan 1 #20
The horses have left the barn. NCDem47 Jan 1 #21
Unfortunately so. mzmolly Jan 1 #24
They should sue him for defamation. Thomas Hurt Jan 1 #26
+1 dalton99a Jan 1 #37
It's not "irresponsible journalism" orangecrush Jan 1 #27
Abc evening news covered this story last night kimbutgar Jan 1 #38
Don't Call Me Shirley is a graduate Hassler Jan 1 #41
Nick Shirley is a total fucking idiot. Initech Jan 1 #42
The bad is working. Doodles Jan 1 #44
I wonder who's funding this Shirley guy. Liberal In Texas Jan 1 #47
They just need to get enough attention for racists to donate JI7 Jan 2 #58
This is why we assume Innocent until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law IbogaProject Jan 1 #49
The 2025 video is accompanied by no evidence. debsy Jan 2 #50
I wouldn't even call it journalism. Dyedinthewoolliberal Jan 2 #51
I'd Love To See Him & Adam Mockler Debate WiVoter Jan 2 #53
It would be very uneven. People like this trash shouldn't JI7 Jan 2 #59

DinahMoeHum

(23,423 posts)
1. Heh heh. Just as I suspected.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:29 AM
Jan 1

This whole thing had all the flavor of a James O'Keefe/Project Veritas operation.

Mr. Evil

(3,446 posts)
15. My thoughts exactly.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:27 AM
Jan 1

If republicans aren't lying, cheating and stealing, well... then I guess they aren't republicans.

Initech

(107,844 posts)
48. He's totally going to go full Kony 2012 in the near future.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:54 PM
Jan 1

Overnight celebrity who can't handle the pressure... we've seen how this ends.

Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #1)

mwmisses4289

(3,476 posts)
2. I haven't been following this story to closely,
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:55 AM
Jan 1

but I understand this idgit, who is a single man with no children, walked into a daycare and... what? expected to be able to film staff and children with no warning? Since the 1980s, most daycares that I know of require an appointment for something like that, so that parents can opt to keep their kids out the daycare on that day. Also, a member of the front office would tag along.
After some kidnappings from daycares (usually due to really nasty custody battles), daycares required a list to be kept on file of who is allowed to pick up the child/ren. Only those people were allowed to pick up the child, and were often required to show i.d.

JHB

(38,039 posts)
13. Worse, he had an entoruage who were wearing masks
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:23 AM
Jan 1

They looked like an ICE raid, so the front door stayed locked. They weren't even allowed inside.

dalton99a

(92,683 posts)
14. +1. Most day cares don't let random people open the door or watch the children through the window
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:25 AM
Jan 1

rsdsharp

(11,847 posts)
39. A the day care my grandkids went to, if you didn't have the door code, you didn't get in.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 02:20 PM
Jan 1

Period.

NHvet

(291 posts)
19. You are correct.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:06 AM
Jan 1

Even our local public schools require you show ID and wait outside locked doors before gaining access to the building. Our GKs after school car pick up line requires every one picking up a child to be a list prior to pickup and here again an ID may be asked for before they hand over the kid(s).

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,842 posts)
25. Umm, that is 100% incorrect, if they're in public one can take a picture of a child, no written consent needed,
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:32 AM
Jan 1

it's not right, it's suspicious, but not illegal and even if someone is in a building but can be seen from a public place, then it's perfectly legal to take pictures or video, the eyes can't be trespassed.

Response to Seinan Sensei (Reply #23)

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,842 posts)
46. You should probably delete this false information,
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:44 PM
Jan 1

there is no law anywhere in the US that forbids anyone filming children in public nor if they can be seen from a public area.
Jus' sayin'.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,842 posts)
62. So, after given ample opportunity to delete this false information, you chose not to do so
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 03:11 PM
Jan 2

thereby promoting this nonsense?

I challenge you to show DU where in the US that one has to obtain "express written consent of parent or guardian" to film children in public or anywhere one can be seen from a public space.

We'll wait.

Yes, it's weird, it's creepy, it'll probably get the cops called, but there is no law against it and even if the cops make contact with the photographer, they don't even have to ID nor explain themselves, it's called the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, something you might want to refresh yourself on.

Seinan Sensei

(1,422 posts)
63. The video I watched appeared to show Nick Shirley wanting to go inside a day-care center with a camera
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 04:19 PM
Jan 2

That’s a no-no
Locked doors, private space, restricted area
If, on the other hand, kids are playing in a public park, then, yes, one can take pictures.
“The eyes cannot be trespassed” (your words) is a good way to put it.
Take a deep breath MCE.
It’s all good.

Johonny

(25,704 posts)
34. Due to school shooting
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 12:01 PM
Jan 1

Most school around here of any kind have security. You don't walk in at all to most day cares.

marble falls

(71,361 posts)
3. Nick Shirley, the next Chalkie Birk. The clock is ticking down on your 15 minute time clock, Rick.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:13 AM
Jan 1

marble falls

(71,361 posts)
6. Irrelevance alone works for me. I'd like hear he's reduced to a part time service grind for a career.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:25 AM
Jan 1

Response to Orrex (Reply #4)

marble falls

(71,361 posts)
32. He's is getting a serious looking at as we write about this feckless (he doesn't give a feck about anyone) bastard.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:55 AM
Jan 1

orangecrush

(29,138 posts)
33. Just read in Hindustan Times he did a mission
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:59 AM
Jan 1


In Chile with the LDS.

I read that CIA has a history of recruiting Mormons who have done missions in such places as they have an interest in.

These people are naturals, as they already are familiar with the language and culture.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/how-old-is-nick-shirley-and-where-is-he-from-5-things-to-know-about-the-youtuber-who-exposed-minnesota-daycare-fraud-101767043681903.html

Response to marble falls (Reply #3)

mdbl

(8,215 posts)
5. The MSM has been acting like the Dump administration has a basis for all this harrassment.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:20 AM
Jan 1

At least the crap I've been seeing.

ToxMarz

(2,786 posts)
7. This is their new 'They're eating the dogs' meme
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:34 AM
Jan 1

As Vance said "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,624 posts)
8. Debunked, deshmunked, ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:35 AM
Jan 1

... he made his points on his podcast, and achieved a goal of stopping or slowing funding for facilities where non-white children may be cared for.
As long as he can cause hardship, he's winning.

Doodley

(11,754 posts)
9. It isn't "irresponsible journalism." It's gaslighting. It's clickbaiting. It's race-baiting.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:43 AM
Jan 1

Amplified by the likes of Elon Musk to promote a fascist agenda.

IronLionZion

(50,975 posts)
10. This sounds a lot like last year's eating cats and dogs
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:51 AM
Jan 1

and before that there was Qanon and Pizzagate and other complete BS conspiracies.



Of course MAGA will use any excuse to cut all funding to a blue state's childcare programs.

OldBoss

(71 posts)
12. Wow WCCO! ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 10:04 AM
Jan 1

So glad to see. Tho it won’t change maga minds. Maga is always innocent until proven guilty, and continues to proclaim innocence after they’ve been convicted, sometimes repeatedly. But anyone else - not so much.

I made the huge mistake of watching about four minutes of the Shirley video on the YouTube app on my iPad. I was not logged in. YouTube immediately flooded its suggestions with horribly awful racist rwnj videos of comedians I never heard of denigrating Somalis and immigrants, Erika Kirk and other Toilet Paper USA stuff, open carry and stand your ground bullshit, and gold and precious metals content. Fucking crazy! I had to wipe my search and watch history to restore normalcy but it’ll take time to get back to the dog, cat, and other warm and fun content we enjoy. But once again proves how social media poisons minds and floods folks with toxic garbage. Shame on me for not watching that on Brave or DuckDuckGo instead.

dflprincess

(29,243 posts)
45. Gives me hope that, at least for now, WCCO isn't bending to the will of its corporate overlords at CBS nt
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:35 PM
Jan 1

surfered

(12,186 posts)
20. Also CBS on X
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:09 AM
Jan 1

CBS News
@CBSNews
A recent video by conservative YouTuber Nick Shirley alleged nearly a dozen day care centers in Minnesota that are receiving public funds are not actually providing any service. After the video went viral, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem announced a "massive investigation on childcare and other rampant fraud" in the state.

CBS News conducted its own analysis of nearly a dozen day care centers mentioned by Shirley: all but two have active licenses, according to state records, and all active locations were visited by state regulators within the last six months. CBS News' review also found dozens of citations related to safety, cleanliness, equipment, and staff training, among other violations, but there was no recorded evidence of fraud.

10:31 AM · Dec 30, 2025
·
6.3M
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NCDem47

(3,351 posts)
21. The horses have left the barn.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:09 AM
Jan 1

It won't matter now. Somalis will be the 2026 GOP boogeyman. They also want to draaaaaaaag Minnesota down too and sully Waltz. It will be all RW media talks about. Outrage du jour. "WE HAVE PROOF!!"

orangecrush

(29,138 posts)
27. It's not "irresponsible journalism"
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:37 AM
Jan 1

Any more than ICE is "irresponsible policing".


It's sickening weaponized propaganda.

I'd love to see a deep background investigation of this character published.

Initech

(107,844 posts)
42. Nick Shirley is a total fucking idiot.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:50 PM
Jan 1

And this was just an exercise to rile up racist conspiracy theorists, that's all.

Doodles

(127 posts)
44. The bad is working.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:23 PM
Jan 1

“Friends” who know usually not to talk to us about this crap are all into this one. Fox and all must really be hitting this one hard.

Liberal In Texas

(16,066 posts)
47. I wonder who's funding this Shirley guy.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 09:53 PM
Jan 1

He's 23 and says he doesn't represent any organization, news or otherwise. He doesn't appear to actually have a job other than walking around trying to walk into daycare centers and harassing the people working there.

IbogaProject

(5,682 posts)
49. This is why we assume Innocent until Proven Guilty in a Court of Law
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:54 PM
Jan 1

Or if in a civil action the plaintiff provides more credible evidence than the defendants as that standard is the preponderance of evidence, which their crappy videos can't rise to.

debsy

(813 posts)
50. The 2025 video is accompanied by no evidence.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 07:44 AM
Jan 2

This is according to these sources:

https://highdesertnewsonline.com/minnesota-daycare-fraud-debunking-viral-claims-fox-9-investigation/]

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/nick-shirley-minnesota-daycare-fraud/]

There was a Fox News (I hate using the term “news” when applying it to that company) investigation done in 2018 that was backed up by evidence at the time and is reportedly being conflated into the 2025 Shirley video. Tim Walz didn’t take office until 2019. A republican was governor of Minnesota in 2018. The Shirley video that shoes no children in the facility at midday is totally expected because their function is for after school daycare from 2 to 10 PM.

Of course, we will never get MAGAts to believe anything other than what they are told by their cult propaganda team.

JI7

(93,331 posts)
59. It would be very uneven. People like this trash shouldn't
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 10:32 AM
Jan 2

even be given a platform like that.

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