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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEvery time we get a Republican president who messes up the economy (and that's 4 out of the last 4), they attack someone
They launch some useless invasion to distract from their economic ineptitude.
Reagan invaded the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada. It did not save our economy.
Bush I invaded Panama. It did not save our economy (or his re-election campaign)
Bush II invaded Iraq. It did not save our economy. If it hadn't been for Kenneth Blackwell and Diebold, it wouldn't have saved his re-election campaign, either, and we do not own Iraq's oil.
Now, Trump invades Venezuela. It will not save our economy, and nor will Maracaibo's heavy sulfur oil. Chávez and Maduro moved most (if not all) of Venezuela's considerable gold holdings to Cuba for storage many years ago.
If U.S. troops go inland, they will eventually meet some of the many armed militias, cartel-affiliated or not, that hang out there. Vietnam will seem like a board game by comparison if they try to occupy the whole country. They will have to rephrase Rumsfeld's erroneous Iraq prediction of "maybe six days, maybe six weeks, certainly not six months" to a Venezuela prediction of "maybe six years, certainly not six decades." Even "six years" will be inaccurate, because on January 20, 2029, at the absolute latest, our withdrawal, coupled with apologies and the promise of billions in restitution and restoration, will commence.
Kennah
(14,578 posts)RVN VET71
(3,192 posts)As I recall, there were restrictions put on the level of security there -- on orders from St. Reagan's WH -- and 100+ were slaughtered by a truck bomb.
(I am truly hoping the driver remains in a hot, metal vaporizing hell -- along with the 9/11 19. But often wonder what the GOP would have done to a Democrat, had one been President at the time.)
malaise
(296,163 posts)That is all
DFW
(60,192 posts)Don't expect people like Mark Kelly or Tammy Duckworth, or any other Democratic Senator with a military background to remain silent on this. Frankly, I expect to hear equally vehement condemnation from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. Remaining silent is assent. There is no middle ground. You agree with the attack or you disagree with it. "Let me think about it and get back to you" is NOT an acceptable response.
Rec
raccoon
(32,392 posts)modrepub
(4,112 posts)Actually establishing some sort of stability in a country is the hard part. I doubt Trump has any long term plan or focus on how to run a country. He also lacks any ability to pick capable people or the ability to sit back and let capable people do their job.
Maduro aint someone to defend on any level. But this administration aint capable of fighting its way out of a wet paper bag with two pairs of scissors. The real end game for Trump will be revealed with time. I chose to keep my peace to see what develops in the next month or so (and expect the worst from this administration).
pfitz59
(12,708 posts)I'm sure it will be over soon and there will be a massive victory parade through the brand new 'Arc d' Trump'.
DFW
(60,192 posts)Rubio has stated that since Maduro was arrested, it's now mission accomplished (I guess someone forgot to tell us beforehand that there was a mission), and Venezuela can now return to starvation and unemployment, and we can all go home. OK, so we won't be sending clean-up crews to repair the damage our bombs did, but we arrested Maduro, and that's what counts.
Montauk6
(9,339 posts)I'm still grossed out that footage of Paul Wolfowitz wetting his comb with spit and styling his pompadour.
Sancho
(9,206 posts)...some of us remember Korea and Vietnam, too. The US was put on a war footing in the 20th century, and it has never returned to a real domestic agenda.