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mcar

(46,061 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:09 PM Jan 3

For those here who are falsely claiming that Democrats are not speaking out*

More reaction to Maduro’s “arrest”

Joyce White Vance (@joycewhitevance.bsky.social) 2026-01-03T16:16:00.478Z


Moulton: "When we had briefings on Venezuela, we asked, 'Are you going to invade the country?' We were told no. 'Do you plan to put troops on the ground?' We were told no. 'Do you intend regime change in VZ?' We were told no. So in a sense, we have been briefed, we've just been completely lied to"

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2026-01-03T18:01:52.815Z


https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5670752-trump-venezuela-strike-democrats/

https://www.axios.com/2026/01/03/democrats-criticize-trump-maduro-venezuela

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/03/us-politicians-reaction-capture-venezuelan-president-maduro

The list goes on but you get the idea.

*Please spare me the "talk is cheap" response.
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For those here who are falsely claiming that Democrats are not speaking out* (Original Post) mcar Jan 3 OP
Thank you, mcar. sheshe2 Jan 3 #1
You're welcome, she mcar Jan 3 #2
Yup, I hear you mcar. SMDH! sheshe2 Jan 3 #4
Chipping away at support for Democrats, working hard in the Both Sides hate-mines every day. betsuni Jan 3 #18
It truly is very frustrating PatSeg Jan 4 #33
I tend to mute or block those who Bluesky that insist that Dems are doing nothing all the time Maeve Jan 3 #3
Since at least the Patriot Act LuvLoogie Jan 3 #5
Since the Supreme Court's 2000 Bush vs Gore ruling DemocracyForever Jan 3 #13
So what are they gonna do about it? leftstreet Jan 3 #6
Please don't start this again. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 3 #9
It's my first time leftstreet Jan 3 #10
Well.... MorbidButterflyTat Jan 3 #19
because jaymac Jan 4 #26
Nothing. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 3 #14
BINGO! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jan 4 #29
And there it is mcar Jan 3 #20
The reality is that Democrats are out of power. Wishing harder or being angrier doesn't change reality tritsofme Jan 4 #34
What stops canetoad Jan 3 #7
Besides the obvious fact that it's practically impossible militarily? BlueTsunami2018 Jan 3 #15
Thank you. 🥰 MorbidButterflyTat Jan 3 #8
Ding ding malaise Jan 3 #11
Andy Kim malaise Jan 3 #12
Thanks mcar Jan 3 #21
Dan Goldman lapucelle Jan 5 #62
Jayapal (sp) was on MSNOW senseandsensibility Jan 3 #16
Thanks mcar Jan 3 #22
But ... but ... a dozen Democrats voted the wrong way once. All is lost, abandon hope. Blame Democrats. betsuni Jan 3 #17
Funny how some Democrats can never be forgiven mcar Jan 3 #23
Angry muffins are STILL bringing up wine caves as evidence Democrats are corporate-corrupt. Big Wine. betsuni Jan 4 #24
I haven't been on DU since the attack because I've been too busy reading the news. Native Jan 4 #25
The baseless criticism of Dems started at about 7 am EST yesterday mcar Jan 4 #31
Reminds me of when some SocialDemocrat61 Jan 4 #32
As always mcar Jan 4 #35
Something happens Friday, alarums about "remaining silent," Democrats on Sunday shows betsuni Jan 4 #39
I didn't see anyone saying Democrats aren't speaking out. An OP did ask, "Will Democrats call this an illegal action?" Scrivener7 Jan 4 #27
It was click bait mcar Jan 4 #36
Your outrage against DUers about that thing that never happened is noted. Scrivener7 Jan 4 #40
Aww, bless your heart mcar Jan 4 #41
Uh oh MorbidButterflyTat Jan 4 #42
I know, right? mcar Jan 4 #43
Obviously that wasn't any kind of "warning" dear. Scrivener7 Jan 4 #47
"It's been noted in the building" mcar Jan 4 #48
Again, no it obviously wasn't a warning. But enjoy your fantasy. Scrivener7 Jan 4 #49
lol Cha Jan 5 #57
Thank you for posting this LetMyPeopleVote Jan 5 #50
You're welcome mcar Jan 5 #54
Maybe they need to make up a set of rules Bettie Jan 4 #38
... orangecrush Jan 4 #45
. Scrivener7 Jan 4 #46
They need to speak out FIERCELY!! ABC123Easy Jan 4 #28
Thanks for posting SocialDemocrat61 Jan 4 #30
"Numerous Democrats Praise Trump" "Democrats Bad" headlines turn out to be one or two betsuni Jan 4 #37
I get a kick out of the "Turd Way" freak outs mcar Jan 4 #44
Sorry I missed this on Saturday, mcar!... Cha Jan 5 #51
Thank you Cha! mcar Jan 5 #55
You're So Welcome, mcar! I love Dems Cha Jan 5 #59
It's what we're supposed to be working for, anyway mcar Jan 5 #60
I'm guessing the goalposts will be moved. Again Torchlight Jan 5 #52
"Too little too late" "Talk is cheap" mcar Jan 5 #56
Democrats have been and are speaking out LetMyPeopleVote Jan 5 #53
What really frustrates me Mad_Machine76 Jan 5 #58
Perhaps the question you should be asking orangecrush Jan 5 #61

mcar

(46,061 posts)
2. You're welcome, she
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:24 PM
Jan 3

After all my years on DU, I’m still angered and discouraged at how some will attack Democrats first, even going so far as making false claims against them.

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
18. Chipping away at support for Democrats, working hard in the Both Sides hate-mines every day.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 03:46 PM
Jan 3

PatSeg

(53,214 posts)
33. It truly is very frustrating
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:03 PM
Jan 4

No matter what republicans do or don't do, there will be some who will blame Democrats instead of holding republicans accountable.

Clearly some people aren't paying attention. Did they want those Democrats to come and knock on their doors and speak out in person? AND they need to stop blaming Democrats for everything republicans do. Being a Democrat in DC is truly a thankless job.

Maeve

(43,457 posts)
3. I tend to mute or block those who Bluesky that insist that Dems are doing nothing all the time
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:29 PM
Jan 3

Thank you for speaking out here!

LuvLoogie

(8,817 posts)
5. Since at least the Patriot Act
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:32 PM
Jan 3

Last edited Sat Jan 3, 2026, 04:28 PM - Edit history (1)

Democrats have been taking shortcuts to justice for political expediency. One of the latest examples is the Democrats who voted for the Laiken Riley Act, and votes to confirm trump cabinet members. The GOPs turned minority power into this regime by leveraging racism and greed and duped Democrats.

This country is doomed. Justice will come in the elimination of our species.

DemocracyForever

(80 posts)
13. Since the Supreme Court's 2000 Bush vs Gore ruling
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 03:03 PM
Jan 3

is where this go along to get along strategy started. Our country is now paying a terrible price for it. We the people must now save ourselves.

leftstreet

(40,709 posts)
6. So what are they gonna do about it?
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:36 PM
Jan 3

Are they holding emergency meetings? Is anyone proposing a plan to counteract Trump?

Or are they just going to go on record saying:

1. Maduro's a bad guy
2. Trump illegally invaded
3. Congress wasn't consulted

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,520 posts)
9. Please don't start this again.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 02:42 PM
Jan 3

If you have legitimate questions why not call or write your reps and ask them.

 

jaymac

(267 posts)
26. because
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 07:39 AM
Jan 4

they don't answer or talk polispeak, then they go along, the leaders we deserve aren't working

BlueTsunami2018

(4,992 posts)
14. Nothing.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 03:04 PM
Jan 3

Not now, not if they somehow get back into power. Nothing will be done. The corporate overlords want this and so they shall have it.

mcar

(46,061 posts)
20. And there it is
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 04:39 PM
Jan 3

Why don’t Democrats say something!!11

How dare they say something!!11

It’s all so sadly predictable.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
34. The reality is that Democrats are out of power. Wishing harder or being angrier doesn't change reality
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:14 PM
Jan 4

or give them super powers.

The facts are that Maduro is a brutal and illegitimate dictator, and that Trump acted illegally while not consulting Congress.

I’m not sure what else you can reasonably expect.

senseandsensibility

(24,989 posts)
16. Jayapal (sp) was on MSNOW
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 03:07 PM
Jan 3

tearing the administration apart and Moulton was very good on CNN. I liked the framing from Moulton. I hope all Dems echo it. He said trump was willing to spend a billion dollars on taking over a foreign country but not spend that on your healthcare. He emphasized that this does nothing to help Americans and is a direct contradiction of the so called "America first" policy. Hats off to both of them.

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
17. But ... but ... a dozen Democrats voted the wrong way once. All is lost, abandon hope. Blame Democrats.
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 03:09 PM
Jan 3

mcar

(46,061 posts)
23. Funny how some Democrats can never be forgiven
Sat Jan 3, 2026, 04:43 PM
Jan 3

for one vote or one mention of God in a tweet. Others are not held to the same exacting standard.

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
24. Angry muffins are STILL bringing up wine caves as evidence Democrats are corporate-corrupt. Big Wine.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:52 AM
Jan 4

Saw it here the other day. Oh right, the Democratic Party is corrupted by billionaires and oligarchs because Pete Buttigieg had an event at a Californian wine cave in 2019.

That's always the big proof, absolutely nothing. And when you can't go after policy because there's little to no difference between what any Democrat or Independent could get done, go after character and pummel Democrats with personal insults and dire predictions of the terrible things they'll do or that they'll do nothing because both sides, etc.

Native

(7,359 posts)
25. I haven't been on DU since the attack because I've been too busy reading the news.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 06:25 AM
Jan 4

And listening to the news. I have to say your post took me by complete surprise. If anyone had been paying real attention, they would have seen that there's been ample pushback. I seriously can't believe this actually happened on DU.

mcar

(46,061 posts)
31. The baseless criticism of Dems started at about 7 am EST yesterday
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:25 AM
Jan 4

Some never even bothered to check, they just attacked.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,653 posts)
32. Reminds me of when some
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:44 AM
Jan 4

slammed Schumer for not condemning Comey's indictment less than 24 hours later, despite that it was a Saturday, the jewish sabbath. Then when he was on one of the Sunday shows the next day, it was too little too late for some.

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
39. Something happens Friday, alarums about "remaining silent," Democrats on Sunday shows
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:47 PM
Jan 4

saying exactly what they're accused of remaining silence about and then it's "Democrats finally break their silence" but it's too late they should've stopped this before anyway.

Scrivener7

(59,528 posts)
27. I didn't see anyone saying Democrats aren't speaking out. An OP did ask, "Will Democrats call this an illegal action?"
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 08:38 AM
Jan 4
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20906412
There was much outrage in response to that simple and legitimate question, and it was called "bashing" and "attacking" by the small posse that insists, "You're attacking Democrats if you suggest Democrats are anything other than useless wimps who have no power and no role to play in anything."

But, as the day went on, the very simple and legitimate question of that OP was answered.

The answer is this: Many Democrats did call it an illegal action, and they spoke against it. But some Democrats came out in support of the illegal action, and many Democrats have so far said nothing.

mcar

(46,061 posts)
36. It was click bait
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:14 PM
Jan 4

Poster could have done their own research and perhaps given the Democrats bit of time.

Scrivener7

(59,528 posts)
47. Obviously that wasn't any kind of "warning" dear.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 06:55 PM
Jan 4

"Noted" is a way to say your words have been heard or read without attaching an opinion to those words.

So, once again, you're making up meanings that just aren't there.

You really should stop doing that.

mcar

(46,061 posts)
48. "It's been noted in the building"
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:06 PM
Jan 4

I well remember that threat to journalists during W Bush's maladministration. Of course it's a warning, but nice try, sweetheart. A warning of nothing because you have no power over me but nonetheless.

So, once again, you're making up meanings that just aren't there.

You really should stop doing that.


I believe calling another DUer a liar is a violation. You really should stop doing that.

Bettie

(19,706 posts)
38. Maybe they need to make up a set of rules
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:40 PM
Jan 4

as to what we're allowed to post....probably with a "Leave Fetterman alone! You're lucky he even performs for you!" section.

I mean, seems we're not even supposed to say anything except "that's good that you did that, real good....please don't wish me into the cornfield!".

Yep, I am still cranky as hell today. Watching our country burn, with no way to stop or even slow it will do that to a person.

ABC123Easy

(283 posts)
28. They need to speak out FIERCELY!!
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:38 AM
Jan 4

They can't just make a few social media posts, memes, and go on a few talk shows, write a few strongly worded letters.

I hate to say it but they need to RAISE HELL just like the GOP would do.

Now is the time to mimic the children of the GOP.

Throw a fit! Please elected dems, Throw a fit.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,653 posts)
30. Thanks for posting
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:02 AM
Jan 4

It is sad that on a site dedicated to supporting democrats that there are some who would rather self-righteously create purity tests for democrats than criticize republicans who control every branch of government.

betsuni

(29,080 posts)
37. "Numerous Democrats Praise Trump" "Democrats Bad" headlines turn out to be one or two
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 01:14 PM
Jan 4

people saying something, often taken out of context or outright lied about, inspiring long threads of outrage and insults. Big thanks to those posting actual information and facts disproving petty conspiracy theories.

The words "Third Way" really gets some worked up even though it's boring meetings nobody pays attention to. Like how the DNC is a diabolical powerful cabal instead of occasional meetings about financial things and planning the national convention.

mcar

(46,061 posts)
44. I get a kick out of the "Turd Way" freak outs
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 06:05 PM
Jan 4

It must take some serious digging to find anything they say since they have no relevance.

Cha

(319,115 posts)
51. Sorry I missed this on Saturday, mcar!...
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 04:15 PM
Jan 5

This is Priceless.. Thank you, so much!

I've seen reports on DU of our Dems Speaking OUT and have been Bookmarking!

Cha

(319,115 posts)
59. You're So Welcome, mcar! I love Dems
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 07:01 PM
Jan 5

who Support Our Dems.

Maybe some Dems in Swing Districts and Purple States are Working on Getting Re-Elected? That is What We're All Working For, right?

Torchlight

(6,831 posts)
52. I'm guessing the goalposts will be moved. Again
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 04:18 PM
Jan 5

From "no one speaking out" to 'sternly worded letter" to "not loud enough" to "just talk" then back to "needs to be softer!" And the gerbil wheel then returns to its original position to begin again...

mcar

(46,061 posts)
56. "Too little too late" "Talk is cheap"
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 06:46 PM
Jan 5

round and round we go - and have been for the more than 20 years I've been here.

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,906 posts)
53. Democrats have been and are speaking out
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 04:19 PM
Jan 5

The claims that the Democrats have been silent are simply false. As a minority party, there are limits to the legislative actions that can be taken.

Thank you for the OP

Mad_Machine76

(24,962 posts)
58. What really frustrates me
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 06:58 PM
Jan 5

is that when Democrats DO speak out, they’re still then accused of “just writing a strongly worded letter”. There are, unfortunately, too many people who:

A. Think both parties are the same, so what’s the point of voting for Dems?
B. Don’t understand how Congress works and think the minority party has “secret powers” that they’re just purposefully not using for reasons.

orangecrush

(30,305 posts)
61. Perhaps the question you should be asking
Mon Jan 5, 2026, 07:40 PM
Jan 5

Is why are enough people here claiming that Democrats aren't speaking out that you feel the need to post an OP to refute them?

In fact, why do you feel a need to refute them at all if their claims are obviously baseless to the great majority here?

Not attacking you, just curious.
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