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riversedge

(80,062 posts)
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 03:14 AM Jan 4

🇻🇪🇺🇸 Marco Rubio told the NYTimes that he will wait to see if the current Venezuelan government hands over the OIL

I do not know what Rubio means. But Rubio is at the bottom of stinking swamp as much as Trump is!!


@Megatron_ron
BREAKING:

🇻🇪🇺🇸 Marco Rubio told the New York Times that he will wait to see if the current Venezuelan government hands over the oil.

If it refuses, new attacks on Venezuela will follow.


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🇻🇪🇺🇸 Marco Rubio told the NYTimes that he will wait to see if the current Venezuelan government hands over the OIL (Original Post) riversedge Jan 4 OP
I don't think so. BootinUp Jan 4 #1
In Venezuela? JustAnotherGen Jan 4 #2
I meant in the US. And I meant public opposition, as in BootinUp Jan 4 #3
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jan 4 #4
Wasn't it just 2 weeks ago Trump was losing BootinUp Jan 4 #8
The MAGA cult is eating this up with a spoon. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #6
Im talking about the question of further BootinUp Jan 4 #9
I don't see anyone stopping Trump. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #12
Not messy. Impossible. nt BootinUp Jan 4 #16
What is impossible. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #18
controlling Argentina militarily with the resources the maggot can BootinUp Jan 4 #19
Greenland, are you watching? C_U_L8R Jan 4 #5
I thought we went into Venezuela because their leader was a drug dealer? Takket Jan 4 #7
Republicans have turned our military into Chevron Freedom Fighters. Emile Jan 4 #10
Stealing oil. It was always about the oil. spanone Jan 4 #11
Will one news agency run a story on oil prices Johonny Jan 4 #13
I agree with you. karynnj Jan 4 #15
What would that even entail? karynnj Jan 4 #14
answers: BootinUp Jan 4 #17

JustAnotherGen

(37,774 posts)
2. In Venezuela?
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 03:50 AM
Jan 4

I think the Public Opposition will come in the form of guerilla warfare.

In the US? I think our Federal Representatives are in danger. If they can do this to a foreign leader - they can declare their opponents to be enemies and arrest them here.

Our military will follow illegal orders. It didn't hold the line.

BootinUp

(51,039 posts)
3. I meant in the US. And I meant public opposition, as in
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 04:07 AM
Jan 4

the kind that gets Congress to do something because it cannot be ignored. I am not sure what makes you think the executive branch will go after elected officials. They use other tactics to bend them to their will.

JustAnotherGen

(37,774 posts)
4. Thank you
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 04:15 AM
Jan 4

The Magapubs House and Senate are terrified of the thing's power.

Whay makes me believe that? History and the type of Regime. Look what his peer in Russia did to Alexei Navalny.

Look what he did to Bolton.

Question - what makes you think we have a functioning Democracy or that this Regime is an Administration?

They can and will because they don't want America as we have known it to exist.

BootinUp

(51,039 posts)
9. Im talking about the question of further
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:21 AM
Jan 4

Efforts to get the oil, efforts which will not go well because they will not be as easy or as well planned as getting Maduro was. And efforts which will clearly be getting us into another big muddy.

BootinUp

(51,039 posts)
19. controlling Argentina militarily with the resources the maggot can
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:46 AM
Jan 4

currently muster. That is, without an actual declaration of war.

C_U_L8R

(49,130 posts)
5. Greenland, are you watching?
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 04:42 AM
Jan 4

Mexico and Canada too. You’re next on the annexation list. They’re coming to steal everything you got.

karynnj

(60,832 posts)
15. I agree with you.
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:05 AM
Jan 4

Although the contamination risk was a reason to oppose the Keystone pipeline what may have really killed it was that it was non economic to build it to transport the very dirty tar sands oil and refined it. Obama and Kerry stopping it when Obama was President delayed it enough that it was less viable in the first Trump administration.

I would imagine the cost of Venezuela's oil might be higher given Trump's and Rubio's statements could make the possibility of sabotage pretty high as they are saying they will steal it.

karynnj

(60,832 posts)
14. What would that even entail?
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 09:57 AM
Jan 4

Trump yesterday spoke of big oil companies going in to "fix" the oil producing infrastructure. Are there any US oil companies that want to put their people into Venezuela with a mission to exploit their oil resources? Do they have any proposal as to how to divide the oil revenue? Do they have any agreement on the responsibilities of the oil company to Venezuela?

If it appears to Venezuelans that the companies are stealing their oil, how safe will the oil company people be? Will we surround the area with US troops? If so, will that cost mean that the cost of that oil is too high especially in the current market?

Not to mention, having the Secretary of State say this should make people who believed that it was about the drugs realize why we were involved in regime change.

BootinUp

(51,039 posts)
17. answers:
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 10:35 AM
Jan 4

Last edited Sun Jan 4, 2026, 12:00 PM - Edit history (1)

1. It would entail far far more than Americans will put up with.
2. No, reports are that companies have already made that clear to the tRump Admin.
3. It will never happen because we will not retake their oil.
4. not applicable.
5. See number 2.
6. No because see number 1.
7. Currently Venezuelan oil production is only a fraction of the amount of surplus oil being produced so the impact on oil prices from any disruptions is very minor.

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