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hamsterjill

(17,072 posts)
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:06 PM 21 hrs ago

Forgive me (for I am human) but I take a small bit of satisfaction that Johnathon Ross was moved from his home.

Right now, I feel helpless. I feel afraid and I feel trepidation about what's to come. So, please forgive me this. Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't take satisfaction out of some of this. But I'm human and I'm reacting to what I see from this situation.

I DO take a tiny bit of satisfaction out of the fact that Ross was moved out of his home. And I'm well aware that he's probably somewhere better. But having to move, and having to move abruptly like that, did not come without its consequences. He's probably not as impacted as the rest of his family. His wife (if she has a job, which reports say she did) probably hasn't been able to go to work. His children probably haven't been able to go to school, and are probably missing their friends, their routine, etc. This is a moment in time that will be etched in their minds for the rest of their lives.

I can feel empathy for the children. But all I hear from THEIR side (i.e., those who approve of ICE's tactics), when they separate families and leave children crying in driveways and hallways as their parents are dragged away, is that the PARENTS should have thought about what they were doing before subjecting their children to that scenario. And the same is true for Ross in my opinion. He should have thought before he agreed to take the job he performed - and certainly before he murdered Renee Good - and subjected his family to HIS actions.

No worries. I'm not becoming "like them". I'm just pointing out that sometimes karma has a way.



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Forgive me (for I am human) but I take a small bit of satisfaction that Johnathon Ross was moved from his home. (Original Post) hamsterjill 21 hrs ago OP
Actions have consequences canetoad 21 hrs ago #1
Thank you for your kind words. hamsterjill 21 hrs ago #2
Yep. We sure do! calimary 9 hrs ago #66
Unfortunately, he's not the one facing them so far Warpy 20 hrs ago #26
And that must be driving him mad crimycarny 19 hrs ago #39
I am unable to care about the impact a murderer's infamy has on his family... Moostache 20 hrs ago #3
I totally understand. hamsterjill 20 hrs ago #5
Your comments are spot on Moostache MuirHero 10 hrs ago #64
There are worse punishments Roc2020 20 hrs ago #4
We'll, to be fair, they said the same about Kyle Rittenhouse. Wednesdays 17 hrs ago #49
Anybody find it ironic that an ICE agent has an immigrant wife? Ritabert 20 hrs ago #6
I find it hypocritical. hamsterjill 20 hrs ago #7
Does that mean JD Vance is in trouble too? Ol Janx Spirit 18 hrs ago #43
Why do you think they are putting him and Erikkka Kirk together? hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #44
Ha! Great point.... NT Ol Janx Spirit 18 hrs ago #46
Hey, try to keep up, will ya???!!! hamsterjill 18 hrs ago #47
Vance may be one of the most disgusting and dangerous politicians this country has produced fujiyamasan 7 hrs ago #69
These fascists are fine with "others" who are sufficiently subservient unblock 20 hrs ago #11
Men get "mail order brides" Freddie 19 hrs ago #34
Yep. Ritabert 18 hrs ago #40
I'd be willing to bet some money that Ross got a "Mail Order Bride" DBoon 16 hrs ago #51
That was my thought. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 16 hrs ago #52
Probably was a passport bro. Lucky Luciano 20 hrs ago #16
Derek Chauvin too KSNY 20 hrs ago #23
Yes stillspkg 19 hrs ago #32
Not really. haele 18 hrs ago #45
American women not good enough for him??? COL Mustard 12 hrs ago #58
Sympathy for kids but not him or the wife JT45242 20 hrs ago #8
He probably abuses her. drmeow 20 hrs ago #24
i suspect there was as much hiding/destroying evidence... ret5hd 20 hrs ago #9
I suspect that was the PRIMARY purpose of the moving. RockRaven 20 hrs ago #13
The MAGA scumfucks have setup Go Fund Me and other sources to pay the murderous psychopath. Initech 20 hrs ago #10
Yes. I saw that this morning. But it seems to me that ICE/our government will be paying riversedge 20 hrs ago #17
He is probably set up some place nicer than his own house, and he almost certainly RockRaven 20 hrs ago #12
Paid for by US, including the family of his victim (at least the only niyad 20 hrs ago #22
Thw fact of it means he feels hunted. Which is good. I'm with you. Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #14
;-{) ICE COLD KILLERS...... Goonch 20 hrs ago #15
Trump and his goons have littered the country with destroyed families. Karma can be a real mother. flashman13 20 hrs ago #18
They will send him somewhere Figarosmom 20 hrs ago #19
May all involved receive everything they deserve. niyad 20 hrs ago #20
they are the people with no empathy Nigrum Cattus 20 hrs ago #21
I saw boxes being moved MurrayDelph 20 hrs ago #25
Self Deport OC375 20 hrs ago #27
We are not like them if we don't actually MadameButterfly 20 hrs ago #28
Moved out or hiding evidence from Minnesota? sinkingfeeling 20 hrs ago #29
It's summer in Argentina. usonian 20 hrs ago #30
Karma or bad decisionmaking aside, the Rosses will still HAVE the rest of their lives. Renee Good & children won't. ancianita 20 hrs ago #31
He already has a GoFundMe OGBuzz 19 hrs ago #33
Renee's family outdid him Lulu KC 19 hrs ago #37
Yes, the Good Family Closed it at $1.5 Million Cha 18 hrs ago #41
Everyone needs to report it SunImp 16 hrs ago #54
And had he shown even a sliver of remorse or concern... I'm not certain any of us would be here. mikelewis 19 hrs ago #35
Well, he'll always have the memory of the moment... BurnDoubt 19 hrs ago #36
I take huge satisfaction from any pain he experiences. Coventina 19 hrs ago #38
And speaking of hypocrisy, the defenders of Ashley Babbitt had no problem with her disobeying... 3catwoman3 18 hrs ago #42
Consequences NoSheep 17 hrs ago #48
The guy is sitting in a comfortable hotel room Demobrat 17 hrs ago #50
Is it possible for Minneapolis police to arrest him based on the clear video that he deliberately shot her? Lonestarblue 16 hrs ago #53
Sometimes, justice doesn't happen in the courts synni 16 hrs ago #55
Are you familiar with the movie "The Star Chamber"? hamsterjill 14 hrs ago #57
Vigilante justice? MichMan 11 hrs ago #60
Whatever punishment he may or may not receive, BigDemVoter 15 hrs ago #56
ICE CLEARLY moved him into hiding to void the possibility of local law enforcement Jack Valentino 12 hrs ago #59
Thank You for Using the word murder Akakoji 11 hrs ago #61
Jonathan Ross can burn in Hell so far as I'm concerned! MuirHero 10 hrs ago #62
Rumor has it that the vigilante Keepthesoulalive 10 hrs ago #63
His father and brother have been saying what a magnificent person he is... BigmanPigman 9 hrs ago #65
Please send a link with information. . .. h2ebits 9 hrs ago #67
I saw multiple reports. hamsterjill 2 hrs ago #70
He (they) won't be back to that home. Krasnov will move the murderer and GoodRaisin 9 hrs ago #68
No satisfaction, but also as much sympathy as he and his ilk had GoCubsGo 1 hr ago #71

hamsterjill

(17,072 posts)
2. Thank you for your kind words.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:12 PM
21 hrs ago

I don't typically like to wish bad things on others because I think that's asking for trouble. But in these cases, I do think we need to point out that THEIR actions have consequences, too.

calimary

(89,080 posts)
66. Yep. We sure do!
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 12:33 AM
9 hrs ago

Because it sure seems like they don't bother to think about what impact their actions might have. So, seems to me WE should.

Warpy

(114,403 posts)
26. Unfortunately, he's not the one facing them so far
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:04 PM
20 hrs ago

He's likely loafing in a hotel room with ESPN 24 hours a day.

His family are facing the consequences, the side eyes from friends and neighbors, the hostility from strangers. Their lives have been totally upended along with the lives of Good's family.

Right now, he's inconvenienced, nothing worse. I'll believe he's facing some consequences when MPD books him into jail.

crimycarny

(2,013 posts)
39. And that must be driving him mad
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:01 PM
19 hrs ago

Because of his ego. How dare he be inconvenienced! How dare he be forced to flee? "They" are now exerting control over his circumstances, and that must be making him absolutely nuts with rage.

I picture a caged rat walking around that hotel room with every increasing anger and rage. At least there is a tiny bit of satisfaction in that.

Moostache

(10,986 posts)
3. I am unable to care about the impact a murderer's infamy has on his family...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:14 PM
20 hrs ago

I'm terrible sorry that they are related to a murdering piece of shit, but disavowing such a person - even if they were my own parents - would NOT be a difficult decision for me. Painful? certainly... but difficult? Not at all.

ICE is a stain on the nation. It is right up there with Trump. Neither will EVER wash off of the nation and should not... but BOTH must end and if more shootings and murders happen, a time will come when it will become necessary to meet threats with violent defense and a time where ICE agents are fired upon and killed for attempting to murder more civilians. There will be a time when protesting and marching and screams will not suffice. We are closer to that point because of murderers like Ross and enablers/defenders like Trump, Vance, Rubio, Noem and the entire ICE membership.

Their shame does not have a statute of limitation or expiry. Being in the Gestapo was seen a lot differently in 1935 than it was in 1945, and being EVER associated with ICE will look exponentially different in 2027 or 2029 than it does today. We need to have someone in authority recognize that pulling back, turning down the temperature from source of the heat is the ONLY thing that can stop a roiling simmer from reaching a boiling over point. You cannot stop the reaction without first eliminating the source of heat.

hamsterjill

(17,072 posts)
5. I totally understand.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:17 PM
20 hrs ago

I'm trying to hang on to my humanity, but there comes a time when IF it is them or me living to see another day...it's going to be me.

MuirHero

(87 posts)
64. Your comments are spot on Moostache
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:43 PM
10 hrs ago

As American law abiding citizens we have a right to defend our property and our persons. I am a gun owner and if ICE ever decides to kick down my door it will be the sorriest decision they ever made. I will fight them to the death.

Roc2020

(1,743 posts)
4. There are worse punishments
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:16 PM
20 hrs ago

than prison. Prison is for public accountability. That man can never show his face anywhere in the WORLD without fear someone will come for him. And he probably won't travel with his family or friends. His life as he knew it before he murdered that mother is over.

hamsterjill

(17,072 posts)
7. I find it hypocritical.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:24 PM
20 hrs ago

Very hypocritical!

I also believe (I'm a Texan) that THIS will limit the amount of support he gets from Christian White Nationalists. It's okay with them to mess around with someone who is a different color (wink! wink!!), but to marry and have children of mixed blood is NOT something they will condone.

hamsterjill

(17,072 posts)
44. Why do you think they are putting him and Erikkka Kirk together?
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:05 PM
18 hrs ago

Ole JD is being reconditioned in my opinion.

fujiyamasan

(1,241 posts)
69. Vance may be one of the most disgusting and dangerous politicians this country has produced
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 02:22 AM
7 hrs ago

He’s so craven and desperate for political power, he would easily throw his wife and kids in camps if it helped him get closer to the presidency.

Trump does guide a cult. That’s true, but Vance’s abrupt shift from being a Trump skeptic to what he is today shows he doesn’t care about anything else. His wife would be smart to leave, but either she’s scared or delusional in the same way Vivek Scammy and crazy eyes Kash are. They think their syncophantic loyalty and wealth will give them cover for their skin color. Vance’s wife is quiet, but her clerking for scum bags like Kavanaugh shed some clues.

unblock

(55,946 posts)
11. These fascists are fine with "others" who are sufficiently subservient
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:29 PM
20 hrs ago

It's the slaver's mentality.

Some immigrant wives, especially if undocumented, can be very dependent and subservient.

Fascists love that.

Freddie

(10,063 posts)
34. Men get "mail order brides"
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:35 PM
19 hrs ago

Because American women aren’t subservient enough for them.

Lucky Luciano

(11,826 posts)
16. Probably was a passport bro.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:38 PM
20 hrs ago

Someone probably told him that as a wealthy American he can have any girl he wanted in the Philippines so he went.

KSNY

(320 posts)
23. Derek Chauvin too
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:55 PM
20 hrs ago

George Floyd's murderer, Derek Chauvin, was married to a woman born in Laos. She dumped his ass soon after the murder. Perhaps Jon Ross's wife will do the same...?

haele

(15,097 posts)
45. Not really.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:07 PM
18 hrs ago

The controlling type of guy who can't handle a strong woman or the idea of having a mere female as a partner often talks about having an immigrant wife because she won't talk back.
Likewise, baby princes who don't think they need to deal with the minor BS in life like paying bills, cleaning house, cooking meals, ect., want a Mommy with benefits to pick up after them and schedule their lives while they play grown-up. And they'll look for a woman who isn't a "feminist" or might have desires of her own outside of taking care of a home in exchange for being taken care of.
Both these types of men are also attracted to organizations where they are able to swagger around playing warrior and busting heads without much repercussion or possible hazard to their personal safety.

Immigrant wives are perfect to these types. They keep your house comfy, any kids out of your way, and don't talk back - even if they're "She who must be obeyed" types, their demands generally won't require any change, personal growth or much consideration other than an ability to budget or work extra shifts

COL Mustard

(7,999 posts)
58. American women not good enough for him???
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:23 PM
12 hrs ago

More than likely no American woman would put up with him, so he had to order one from a catalog.

I imagine he has a small penis and is compensating for it.

JT45242

(3,840 posts)
8. Sympathy for kids but not him or the wife
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:25 PM
20 hrs ago

She ABSOLUTELY 100% KNEW he was a bullying piece of crap human being long before ICE gave him a gun. Normal people are not gleeful at killing someone like that. (The entire arc of breaking bad switches from what would you do to financially protect your family if you had cancer, to how killing a person changes you in fundamental ways).

The kids are innocent, theoretically, but have potentially already been TAUGHT to hate all "others" ...i.e. non whites, non straight, non conservatives.

drmeow

(5,934 posts)
24. He probably abuses her.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:59 PM
20 hrs ago

Virtually guaranteed emotionally, almost certainly physically. She might be/feel trapped. For all we know, he's taken away her passport.

You are right that the kids are learning the wrong lessons.

Initech

(107,509 posts)
10. The MAGA scumfucks have setup Go Fund Me and other sources to pay the murderous psychopath.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:29 PM
20 hrs ago

And they have both reached 6 figures. Fucking disgusting. He'll need it for his legal fees.

riversedge

(79,540 posts)
17. Yes. I saw that this morning. But it seems to me that ICE/our government will be paying
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:39 PM
20 hrs ago

his legal fees???

RockRaven

(18,749 posts)
12. He is probably set up some place nicer than his own house, and he almost certainly
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:29 PM
20 hrs ago

isn't paying for it.

He is on a paid, and paid for, vacation.

niyad

(129,714 posts)
22. Paid for by US, including the family of his victim (at least the only
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:51 PM
20 hrs ago

victim we know about. I suspect there are more) .

flashman13

(2,056 posts)
18. Trump and his goons have littered the country with destroyed families. Karma can be a real mother.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:39 PM
20 hrs ago

Figarosmom

(9,831 posts)
19. They will send him somewhere
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:44 PM
20 hrs ago

Without extradition to show the others that if they get violent and kill, they will be protected.

MadameButterfly

(3,751 posts)
28. We are not like them if we don't actually
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:08 PM
20 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:24 PM - Edit history (1)

respond to him with violence, or send death threats. It's just as important here, as when we demostrate, that we make our case peacefully.

The consequences he is experiencing are the only deterrent ICE agents will face. It needs to be horrible, or we are in trouble. In fact, it's not even good for him if he doesn't learn anything from this and keeps acting out that way.

We have to get what satisfaction we can from him experiencing a little of what they put others through.


usonian

(23,644 posts)
30. It's summer in Argentina.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:13 PM
20 hrs ago

He’ll have a lot of company when all the Epstein dirt is unpacked.

I already picked out a gold resort for Dumpster to buy.

ancianita

(42,932 posts)
31. Karma or bad decisionmaking aside, the Rosses will still HAVE the rest of their lives. Renee Good & children won't.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:14 PM
20 hrs ago

OGBuzz

(1 post)
33. He already has a GoFundMe
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:21 PM
19 hrs ago

and has already raised $455 K out of $550 K goal.

This might be a carrot for a lot of the thugs.

Lulu KC

(8,520 posts)
37. Renee's family outdid him
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:44 PM
19 hrs ago

I can't remember their goal but they turned off the stream of donations at $1.5M. NOT that this is in any way a financial competition, but I take it as an indicator that there are more GOOD people than not good. And he's not good.

Cha

(316,974 posts)
41. Yes, the Good Family Closed it at $1.5 Million
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:38 PM
18 hrs ago

and asked that others who needed it be cmsidered.

Justice For Renee Good

mikelewis

(4,586 posts)
35. And had he shown even a sliver of remorse or concern... I'm not certain any of us would be here.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:38 PM
19 hrs ago

They're claiming he acted out of instinct and fear for his life...

I've done that myself a time or two. I even made a mistake while in that situation...

Men own it. That dude is just a cruel child.

He didn't act out of fear but rage and hate... and he had and has no remorse... fuck that guy. I hope his everyday is a fucking never ending nightmare... at least until 2028 when the next President can have him tried for mansluaghter. (It's not technically murder, it's Man 1... pretty sure)

BurnDoubt

(1,496 posts)
36. Well, he'll always have the memory of the moment...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 02:39 PM
19 hrs ago

and the Chubby he got pulling the trigger on an unarmed American Citizen and calling her a “Bitch”.
Pr!!!!!iceless

3catwoman3

(28,632 posts)
42. And speaking of hypocrisy, the defenders of Ashley Babbitt had no problem with her disobeying...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 03:40 PM
18 hrs ago

...a lawful order from a Capitol law enforcement officer as she attempting to break thru a door, but are yapping away that Renee Good was being aggressive and threatening when she tried to drive away.

Demobrat

(10,264 posts)
50. The guy is sitting in a comfortable hotel room
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:13 PM
17 hrs ago

with daily maid service, ordering food and watching himself on TV while the total on his GoFundMe ticks up. All paid for.
He’s never had it so good.

Lonestarblue

(13,241 posts)
53. Is it possible for Minneapolis police to arrest him based on the clear video that he deliberately shot her?
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:52 PM
16 hrs ago

He needs to be prosecuted and face a jury trial. ICE is already ramping up their violence.

synni

(676 posts)
55. Sometimes, justice doesn't happen in the courts
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 06:05 PM
16 hrs ago

This murderer is going to be looking over his shoulder for the rest of his life. Living in what amounts to a witness protection plan is no fun. Even if he avoids a prison sentence, he's going to end up with (even more) mental health issues, because he's never going to be a truly free man again.

And i, for one, am delighted.

hamsterjill

(17,072 posts)
57. Are you familiar with the movie "The Star Chamber"?
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 07:18 PM
14 hrs ago

If you're not, you should look it up and watch it. You'd like it I think.

BigDemVoter

(4,677 posts)
56. Whatever punishment he may or may not receive,
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 06:25 PM
15 hrs ago

he will be forever known as a murderer, and he truly deserves it.

Jack Valentino

(4,404 posts)
59. ICE CLEARLY moved him into hiding to void the possibility of local law enforcement
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 09:24 PM
12 hrs ago

being able to arrest him!

Akakoji

(481 posts)
61. Thank You for Using the word murder
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 10:46 PM
11 hrs ago

Because that is what it was. Today, the shite head suggested that she deserved to be murdered. She apparently was disrespecting law enforcement. Nothing justices murdering anyone, especially a mother of 3, by unloading a gun full of bullets in her face. All Republicans must be held to account.

Keepthesoulalive

(2,131 posts)
63. Rumor has it that the vigilante
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 11:22 PM
10 hrs ago

That killed Trayvon Martin is broke and homeless. I wish that for Ms. Goods murderer. Sometimes justice happens in unexpected ways. In jail you get the bare minimum care, in the streets you get nothing.

h2ebits

(976 posts)
67. Please send a link with information. . ..
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:07 AM
9 hrs ago

How do you know that he has been removed from his home. And, what does that mean anyway?? Is he in jail? Where was he removed to?

It appears others making comments also have information. I looked but didn't see anything. Would you please help?

Thanks

GoodRaisin

(10,741 posts)
68. He (they) won't be back to that home. Krasnov will move the murderer and
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:09 AM
9 hrs ago

his family to some new life somewhere, probably Russia, where we can’t extradite him. If he tries to come back to the U.S. he will eventually be tried and convicted for murder by the state of Minnesota, so I doubt they ever return. Yeah, that’s a pretty big disruption in their lives, but they get to keep breathing, unlike his victim.

GoCubsGo

(34,678 posts)
71. No satisfaction, but also as much sympathy as he and his ilk had
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 08:27 AM
1 hr ago

for Ruby Freeman and her daughter, who were forced out of their home by the MAGAt mob. Or, for the judge whose husband and son were murdered in their home by Trump goons. Or, for the thousands of others that they constantly harassing, just because they spoke up against their pedophile Dear Leader. Which is none.

Release the Epstein files. Unredacted (except for the victims.)

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