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yaesu

(9,127 posts)
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:03 PM Jan 12

As a reminder here are the 7 Democrats who voted for nazi plastic face Noem as Homeland Security secretary

Sen. John Fetterman (Pa.)

Sen. Maggie Hassan (N.H.)

Sen. Tim Kaine

Sen. Andy Kim (N.J.)

Sen. Gary Peters (Mich.)

Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (N.H.)

Sen. Elissa Slotkin (Mich.)

lets hope all, not just a few, regret it

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As a reminder here are the 7 Democrats who voted for nazi plastic face Noem as Homeland Security secretary (Original Post) yaesu Jan 12 OP
Extremely disappointing Cirsium Jan 12 #1
That disappoints me to no end. llmart Jan 12 #23
Was just going to post the same ybbor Jan 12 #24
Thank goodness, not my two Senators, Maria Cantwell and Patty Murray. Aristus Jan 12 #2
No Democrat should legitimize a Trump appointee. dalton99a Jan 12 #3
Should have been an immediate agreement... lame54 Jan 12 #5
Absolutely. dalton99a Jan 12 #12
Except some of them continue choie Jan 12 #4
Again I see my Senator on the list. fucken Fetterman. debm55 Jan 12 #6
... SheltieLover Jan 12 #8
You know, SheltieLover. He lived about 5 miles from me in Braddock,PA. People around here loved him as mayor of debm55 Jan 12 #39
Pos SheltieLover Jan 12 #42
Fetterman! JoseBalow Jan 12 #22
Also my first thought: Fetterman!!!! FoggyLake Jan 12 #27
I had a feeling his name was going to be on that list and it was. debm55 Jan 12 #40
I hope they are all primaried SheltieLover Jan 12 #7
59 Yea's minus those seven votes means Noem is still Secretary of Homeland Security. W_HAMILTON Jan 12 #9
So they didn't have to? They just wanted to? Iggo Jan 12 #11
Their vote didn't ultimately matter, which is the point. W_HAMILTON Jan 12 #13
That's what I mean. If their vote didn't matter, then why didn't they vote against? Iggo Jan 12 #14
I don't know, but for those that care, I'm sure they can go back and read their reasons why. W_HAMILTON Jan 12 #16
We should ask them all rescind their votes !! Captain Zero Jan 12 #31
If they're living in a swing district, pnwmom Jan 12 #18
Both senators from New Hampshire and both senators from Michigan... Iggo Jan 12 #25
No Cirsium Jan 12 #29
Michigan is a swing state. I don't know the situation in New Hampshire. nt pnwmom Jan 12 #43
Why should they vote at all? Cirsium Jan 12 #28
Those enabling our real enemies are those that have prioritized meaningless purity tests like this over the past decade. W_HAMILTON Jan 13 #44
Never mind. Iggo Jan 12 #10
Every democrat should have voted against every nominee. Katinfl Jan 12 #15
Fucking Fetterman. Paladin Jan 12 #17
Someone should primary him just for the hell of it Captain Zero Jan 12 #32
It's like the M.I.C. appreciation society. Kid Berwyn Jan 12 #19
Lets rag on Fetterman & then ignore the others. Including one whom the vast majority of us voted for as Hillary's progressoid Jan 12 #20
They should use that for cover when criticizing her nuxvomica Jan 12 #21
Wow. Poor judgment brought to light. Thank you Evolve Dammit Jan 12 #26
Michigan and East Coast Senators duckworth969 Jan 12 #30
Tim Kaine ABC123Easy Jan 12 #33
Sen. Tim Kaine AverageOldGuy Jan 12 #34
Very disappointed rambler_american Jan 12 #35
I am struck by how ugly and evil Noem looks. mwb970 Jan 12 #36
Meh. QueerDuck Jan 12 #37
The party needs new leadership; lees1975 Jan 12 #38
Fetterman certainly doesn't. BlueTsunami2018 Jan 12 #41

Cirsium

(3,673 posts)
1. Extremely disappointing
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:05 PM
Jan 12

Both of our Michigan Senators are on the list. Hard to image their thinking. Bipartisanship? At this late stage?

debm55

(57,974 posts)
39. You know, SheltieLover. He lived about 5 miles from me in Braddock,PA. People around here loved him as mayor of
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:18 PM
Jan 12

Braddock and our commonwealth Vice Governor. He is a sellout. and a trust fund baby.

W_HAMILTON

(10,242 posts)
9. 59 Yea's minus those seven votes means Noem is still Secretary of Homeland Security.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:27 PM
Jan 12

Let's focus on our real enemies.

W_HAMILTON

(10,242 posts)
13. Their vote didn't ultimately matter, which is the point.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 04:33 PM
Jan 12

We can purify them out of the party and Noem would still be exactly where she is today.

Our fascist enemies are higher on my list of priorities than our imperfect allies.

W_HAMILTON

(10,242 posts)
16. I don't know, but for those that care, I'm sure they can go back and read their reasons why.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:13 PM
Jan 12

I personally do not care because there are FAR more pressing issues to deal with right now.

Captain Zero

(8,812 posts)
31. We should ask them all rescind their votes !!
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 06:32 PM
Jan 12

They could do a press conference and rescind their votes, ask Republicans to join in rescinding.

If they get a majority, someone could move to impeach or censure her.

pnwmom

(110,218 posts)
18. If they're living in a swing district,
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:16 PM
Jan 12

it can make sense to not alienate half the electorate with a negative vote that can't change the results.

Iggo

(49,765 posts)
25. Both senators from New Hampshire and both senators from Michigan...
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:53 PM
Jan 12

…needed to vote for Noem to what…placate Republican voters, no matter how much it pissed off Democratic voters? Are we that weak in those two states to where we need all four Senators to performatively vote against our interests?

Cirsium

(3,673 posts)
29. No
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 06:14 PM
Jan 12

We are not weak, but this weakens us. Pandering to Republicans does not help, it hurts. "How bad can Trump be if your Democratic Senators support things he does?" I hear that in rural Michigan.

Cirsium

(3,673 posts)
28. Why should they vote at all?
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 06:08 PM
Jan 12

Why discuss politics, as far as that goes? We can't focus on those who enable our real enemies?

And we wonder why people tune out.

W_HAMILTON

(10,242 posts)
44. Those enabling our real enemies are those that have prioritized meaningless purity tests like this over the past decade.
Tue Jan 13, 2026, 01:14 AM
Jan 13

Republicans thank them for their service.

If people are so upset with a handful of Democrats casting (ultimately meaningless) votes for Republican nominees, elect a Democrat to the White House so they won't be able to.

Kid Berwyn

(23,678 posts)
19. It's like the M.I.C. appreciation society.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:17 PM
Jan 12

Thanks a lot!

PS: Thank you for the kind reminder, yaesu! Whatever really happened to Paul Wellstone?

progressoid

(52,806 posts)
20. Lets rag on Fetterman & then ignore the others. Including one whom the vast majority of us voted for as Hillary's
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:29 PM
Jan 12

choice to be Vice-president.

nuxvomica

(13,964 posts)
21. They should use that for cover when criticizing her
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 05:30 PM
Jan 12

And draw the distinction between what she testified she would do and what she's actually doing, eg. "I voted for you despite my fellow Democratic senators' objections so I think you owe me an answer on this..." Democrats should use all the leverage they have, even the things they should be embarrassed for.

AverageOldGuy

(3,574 posts)
34. Sen. Tim Kaine
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 06:48 PM
Jan 12

Kaine is from Virginia, he is one of our two Democratic senators, Mark Warner being the other.

Kaine was re-elected in 2024 by a margin of 54.5 - 44.5 over a weak Republican. He will be up for re-election in 2010.

Warner was re-elected in 2020 by a margin of 56 - 44 over a weak Republican. He is up for re-election in 2026. As yet, no Republican has announced against him although a few mental midgets have let it be known they want to run against Warner.

mwb970

(12,108 posts)
36. I am struck by how ugly and evil Noem looks.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 07:00 PM
Jan 12

She has that soulless Stephen Miller look. It's scary. Like looking right at the Devil.

lees1975

(6,956 posts)
38. The party needs new leadership;
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 07:35 PM
Jan 12

This old school thinking and swing district crap has got to go! Be bold, step up, act like you really believe it when you say Trump is an existential threat to Democracy.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,915 posts)
41. Fetterman certainly doesn't.
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 08:20 PM
Jan 12

And I doubt the others do either. If you and I knew better, they absolutely did too.

It’s inexcusable.

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