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Eddie Haskell 60

(41 posts)
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:37 PM 19 hrs ago

Dems MUST shutdown government to deal with ICE

The only power Dems have left is to shutdown government until ICE and war powers are brought back under control. Otherwise, Dems are useless.

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Dems MUST shutdown government to deal with ICE (Original Post) Eddie Haskell 60 19 hrs ago OP
DURec leftstreet 19 hrs ago #1
Demand a federal law reigning in ICE before any negotiations can happen. SSJVegeta 19 hrs ago #2
Demand mr715 19 hrs ago #4
Perhaps even add 3 sets of 8 count pushups, 5 burpees -and a cerificate in accounting to the list. SSJVegeta 18 hrs ago #7
And of course mr715 18 hrs ago #8
We can dream SSJVegeta 18 hrs ago #9
Do not be complicit in crimes against humanity. mr715 19 hrs ago #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie Gates 19 hrs ago #5
It's the only way right now. ananda 19 hrs ago #6
Why do you think a government shutdown would make Republicans want to defund ICE? tritsofme 18 hrs ago #10
To wake people up Eddie Haskell 60 17 hrs ago #11
The only thing that will happen is that federal workers won't get paid again. tritsofme 16 hrs ago #23
And Families on SNAP will Not get Cha 6 hrs ago #32
A shutdown may not defund ICE... maspaha 17 hrs ago #14
No one said 'want.' I believe it is about forcing them to do so by opposing every single little thing they try. PatrickforB 17 hrs ago #15
Bye orangecrush 17 hrs ago #16
Adios! tritsofme 16 hrs ago #24
Aloha! Cha 6 hrs ago #33
Sen. Schumer... please do the right thing this time! mysteryowl 17 hrs ago #12
And they'd be doing it for reasons more principled than another tax cut for billionaires at expense of working Americans ChicagoTeamster 17 hrs ago #13
DU Unrec maxsolomon 17 hrs ago #17
I fear its not going to work. drray23 17 hrs ago #18
Correct The Grand Illuminist 17 hrs ago #19
You're right. A shutdown will likely have the opposite effect of ICE creating more chaos and suffering. ancianita 17 hrs ago #20
rethugs would get another long vacation Bayard 14 hrs ago #27
TY! yes We Have to Focus On Winning the Cha 6 hrs ago #34
Exactly. Those that think otherwise are uninformed. W_HAMILTON 6 hrs ago #30
Shutting down government will not shut down ICE. This will not only not work, it will make everything else worse. ancianita 17 hrs ago #21
The GOP wants to destroy the government anyway relayerbob 16 hrs ago #22
Yeah thats a winning platform Samael13 16 hrs ago #25
Yes obnoxiousdrunk 16 hrs ago #26
And how did that last shut down workout? sarisataka 14 hrs ago #28
and remove noem vapor2 8 hrs ago #29
We aren't going to remove Noem as long as Republicans are in power. W_HAMILTON 6 hrs ago #31

SSJVegeta

(2,379 posts)
7. Perhaps even add 3 sets of 8 count pushups, 5 burpees -and a cerificate in accounting to the list.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 02:24 PM
18 hrs ago

mr715

(2,802 posts)
8. And of course
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 02:29 PM
18 hrs ago

no prior convictions, a robust background check, drug screenings, and a psych eval.

None of this DEI shit, just hire people that meet the requirements.

mr715

(2,802 posts)
3. Do not be complicit in crimes against humanity.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:48 PM
19 hrs ago

You are in the minority - you are not obligated to govern.

Response to Eddie Haskell 60 (Original post)

Eddie Haskell 60

(41 posts)
11. To wake people up
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:49 PM
17 hrs ago

Shutdown is to wake the American people up. Let them know some powers such as tariffs and war powers must return to Congress as required by the Constitution.

tritsofme

(19,809 posts)
23. The only thing that will happen is that federal workers won't get paid again.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:47 PM
16 hrs ago

Another thing Republicans don’t care about.

The government being shutdown isn’t a failure for them, it’s a victory in itself.

Cha

(317,068 posts)
32. And Families on SNAP will Not get
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 02:48 AM
6 hrs ago

Food Assistance like last time.

TY for bringing up the Fed Workers.

maspaha

(710 posts)
14. A shutdown may not defund ICE...
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:53 PM
17 hrs ago

…but, it’s at least a symbolic fight. Courage is contagious!

PatrickforB

(15,350 posts)
15. No one said 'want.' I believe it is about forcing them to do so by opposing every single little thing they try.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:55 PM
17 hrs ago

They need to be opposed just like Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld made it so the GOP opposed all we tried to do in lockstep. Every time we ever try to do some bipartisan thing, they don't agree unless they get their way anyway.

Over the last 30 years our political dialog has moved so far to the right, by design, that a centrist position in 2025 would be considered reactionary back in 1970 or even 1980. We have to STOP these people before it is too late and that window is closing rapidly. Time to grind everything to a halt and just stop it all until some concessions can be wrung from these corrupt politicians and their billionaire/Wall Street greed-lizard owners.

mysteryowl

(8,160 posts)
12. Sen. Schumer... please do the right thing this time!
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:50 PM
17 hrs ago

Please remember you are a democrat and the people need you to step up!

ChicagoTeamster

(457 posts)
13. And they'd be doing it for reasons more principled than another tax cut for billionaires at expense of working Americans
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 03:51 PM
17 hrs ago

drray23

(8,595 posts)
18. I fear its not going to work.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:04 PM
17 hrs ago

Last shutdown, ICE was considered essential and still paid.
The GOP will not cave, they are perfectly happy to let the economy crash and people lose jobs while they keep paying their goons and spreading mayhem.

Most of the stuff the government is doing now is widly unpopular, yet they don't care and do it. Why would a shutdown pressure the gop ?

ancianita

(42,960 posts)
20. You're right. A shutdown will likely have the opposite effect of ICE creating more chaos and suffering.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:14 PM
17 hrs ago
Last shutdown, ICE was considered essential and still paid.


And that's what the felon wants ahead of the midterms, to claim that he's the only one who can "fix" blue states.

Bayard

(28,692 posts)
27. rethugs would get another long vacation
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 06:26 PM
14 hrs ago

I don't think the country is ready for Shutdown II. They would probably really blame Dems this time, as some probably haven't recovered financially yet from the last one.

Come up with another way to make the point.

ancianita

(42,960 posts)
21. Shutting down government will not shut down ICE. This will not only not work, it will make everything else worse.
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:19 PM
17 hrs ago
What Continues (ICE):
Enforcement & Removals: Arrests, raids, and deportations continue as normal.
Detention Operations: The system for detaining immigrants remains active.
SEVP: The program that manages international students (F-1/M-1) is funded by fees and stays open.

What Slows Down/Stops (Immigration System):
Immigration Courts (EOIR): Hearings for non-detained individuals often get postponed, creating backlogs, even if courts technically stay open.
E-Verify: The system for employers to verify work eligibility can be temporarily unavailable, suspending deadlines for new cases.
USCIS (Sometimes): While fee-funded USCIS generally stays open, processing of some non-fee-based immigration petitions can pause.

In essence, ICE's core mission of enforcement carries on, but the court system that processes cases gets backed up, leading to uncertainty for many immigrants.

You're seeing this all wrong.

relayerbob

(7,373 posts)
22. The GOP wants to destroy the government anyway
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 04:32 PM
16 hrs ago

And Trump doesn’t care about laws so hw won’t shut down ICE.

What is required a general nationwide strike.

Samael13

(129 posts)
25. Yeah thats a winning platform
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 05:06 PM
16 hrs ago

Let's remember what happened last time all that was accomplished was making average Americans hurt. Do you think everyday Americans are gonna accept that again they'd turn on democrats

sarisataka

(22,247 posts)
28. And how did that last shut down workout?
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 06:30 PM
14 hrs ago

What makes you think another one would be any more effective?

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